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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4862 Posts
June 19 2022 14:20 GMT
#73481
Nonsense, they were uncaring, evil people back then. Especially when 15 years ago there was no one worse than those who wanted to send men and boys to die for oil (this would have included people like Crenshaw had he been around). So you guys can say whatever you want, but you are all underselling it. I can't wait for "DeSantis is worse than Trump." It will be remarkable.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11629 Posts
June 19 2022 14:29 GMT
#73482
Yes. They were uncaring and evil back then.

But in comparison to a Trump or DeSantis, normal uncaring and evil conservative sounds really good.

And i absolutely believe that you will manage to find someone more abhorrent than Trump. That is not a victory for you.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 19 2022 14:42 GMT
#73483
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 19 2022 15:38 GMT
#73484
On June 19 2022 23:20 Introvert wrote:
Nonsense, they were uncaring, evil people back then. Especially when 15 years ago there was no one worse than those who wanted to send men and boys to die for oil (this would have included people like Crenshaw had he been around). So you guys can say whatever you want, but you are all underselling it. I can't wait for "DeSantis is worse than Trump." It will be remarkable.

Do you hear yourself? Republicans are more violent and fanatical than they've ever been. Your Supreme Court is poised to dismantle critical rights for people all across the country, and your leaders are dictating how people can educate our youth. They're positioning themselves so they can rewrite the rules of our democracy, so that once they retake power they never have to worry about losing it again, regardless of their abysmal levels of popular support.

But your problem is that people are talking about it? Calling it out for what it is? Man, that really sucks for you. I'm sure we're all just overreacting though.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-19 17:46:22
June 19 2022 16:38 GMT
#73485
Well this is dark. Expect other state GOP organizations to adopt similar or even more extreme platforms going forward.

Meeting at their first in-person convention since 2018, Texas Republicans on Saturday acted on a raft of resolutions and proposed platform changes to move their party even further to the right. They approved measures declaring that President Joe Biden “was not legitimately elected” and rebuking Sen. John Cornyn for taking part in bipartisan gun talks. They also voted on a platform that declares homosexuality “an abnormal lifestyle choice” and calls for Texas schoolchildren “to learn about the humanity of the preborn child.”

The actions capped a convention that highlighted how adamantly opposed the party’s most active and vocal members are to compromising with Democrats or moderating on social positions, even as the state has grown more diverse and Republicans’ margins in statewide elections have shrunk slightly in recent years.

Votes on the platform were collected at the end of the party's three-day convention in which party activists moved to add multiple items to the official Texas GOP platform. As the convention closed, two separate sets of ballots — one allowing delegates to choose eight of 15 legislative priorities and another allowing delegates to vote on the 275 platform planks — were gathered. Those will now need to be tallied and certified in Austin, but it is rare for a plank to be rejected, according to party spokesperson James Wesolek.

The new platform would call for:

Requiring Texas students “to learn about the humanity of the preborn child,” including teaching that life begins at fertilization and requiring students to listen to live ultrasounds of gestating fetuses.
Amending the Texas Constitution to remove the Legislature’s power “to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.”
Treating homosexuality as “an abnormal lifestyle choice,” language that was not included in the 2018 or 2020 party platforms.
Deeming gender identity disorder “a genuine and extremely rare mental health condition,” requiring official documents to adhere to “biological gender,” and allowing civil penalties and monetary compensation to “de-transitioners” who have received gender-affirming surgery, which the platform calls a form of medical malpractice.
Changing the U.S. Constitution to cement the number of Supreme Court justices at nine and repeal the 16th Amendment of 1913, which created the federal income tax.
Ensuring “freedom to travel” by opposing Biden’s Clean Energy Plan and “California-style, anti-driver policies,” including efforts to turn traffic lanes over for use by pedestrians, cyclists and mass transit.
Declaring “all businesses and jobs as essential and a fundamental right,” a response to COVID-19 mandates by Texas cities that required customers to wear masks and limited business hours.
Abolishing the Federal Reserve, the nation’s central bank, and guaranteeing the right to use alternatives to cash, including cryptocurrencies.


https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/18/republican-party-texas-convention-cornyn/
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11629 Posts
June 19 2022 16:49 GMT
#73486
On June 20 2022 01:38 plasmidghost wrote:
Well this is dark. Expect other state GOP organizations to adopt similar or even more extreme platforms going forward.

Show nested quote +
The new platform would call for:

Requiring Texas students “to learn about the humanity of the preborn child,” including teaching that life begins at fertilization and requiring students to listen to live ultrasounds of gestating fetuses.
Amending the Texas Constitution to remove the Legislature’s power “to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.”
Treating homosexuality as “an abnormal lifestyle choice,” language that was not included in the 2018 or 2020 party platforms.
Deeming gender identity disorder “a genuine and extremely rare mental health condition,” requiring official documents to adhere to “biological gender,” and allowing civil penalties and monetary compensation to “de-transitioners” who have received gender-affirming surgery, which the platform calls a form of medical malpractice.
Changing the U.S. Constitution to cement the number of Supreme Court justices at nine and repeal the 16th Amendment of 1913, which created the federal income tax.
Ensuring “freedom to travel” by opposing Biden’s Clean Energy Plan and “California-style, anti-driver policies,” including efforts to turn traffic lanes over for use by pedestrians, cyclists and mass transit.
Declaring “all businesses and jobs as essential and a fundamental right,” a response to COVID-19 mandates by Texas cities that required customers to wear masks and limited business hours.
Abolishing the Federal Reserve, the nation’s central bank, and guaranteeing the right to use alternatives to cash, including cryptocurrencies.


https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/18/republican-party-texas-convention-cornyn/


Makes me wanna vomit.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 19 2022 17:47 GMT
#73487
Almost forgot to add the part where the Texas GOP's official stance now is that Biden was fraudulently elected
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 19 2022 17:53 GMT
#73488
Texas is the test bed for their upcoming brand of authoritarian, single-party rule. They're undoing rights and ignoring elections for as long as nobody stops them.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26021 Posts
June 19 2022 18:15 GMT
#73489
How representative is this on the whole? I mean if that’s the general direction the Texas GOP wants to go my lord…

It’s less stuff I disagree with as things I find outright insane
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45029 Posts
June 19 2022 18:17 GMT
#73490
On June 20 2022 02:53 NewSunshine wrote:
Texas is the test bed for their upcoming brand of authoritarian, single-party rule. They're undoing rights and ignoring elections for as long as nobody stops them.


How do we stop them? When their constituents are conspiracy theorists who refuse to be educated and accept reality, I feel like whatever move we make (ignoring the leaders of this bullshit, calling them out on this bullshit, trying to get people to vote against them, trying to forcibly remove them, etc.) feeds into their conspiracy.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45029 Posts
June 19 2022 18:19 GMT
#73491
On June 20 2022 03:15 WombaT wrote:
How representative is this on the whole? I mean if that’s the general direction the Texas GOP wants to go my lord…

It’s less stuff I disagree with as things I find outright insane


They rarely have political stances that one could even attempt to agree/disagree with, in good faith, since they're all about just rejecting Democratic ideas and simply promoting conspiracy theories. They don't have any actual substantive positions of their own to evaluate, which is disappointing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 19 2022 19:28 GMT
#73492
On June 20 2022 03:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2022 02:53 NewSunshine wrote:
Texas is the test bed for their upcoming brand of authoritarian, single-party rule. They're undoing rights and ignoring elections for as long as nobody stops them.


How do we stop them? When their constituents are conspiracy theorists who refuse to be educated and accept reality, I feel like whatever move we make (ignoring the leaders of this bullshit, calling them out on this bullshit, trying to get people to vote against them, trying to forcibly remove them, etc.) feeds into their conspiracy.

I genuinely don't know. The federal government isn't going to step in to override some of the awful shit happening here, and the government's successfully suppressed voting to one of the worst in the nation, so I'm lost. I don't see the GOP voters changing currently and the Dems aren't doing anything to convince people to not vote GOP
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 19 2022 19:31 GMT
#73493
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
June 19 2022 19:54 GMT
#73494
What is the Texas Democratic Party's official platform?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 19 2022 20:03 GMT
#73495
On June 20 2022 04:54 gobbledydook wrote:
What is the Texas Democratic Party's official platform?

This year's convention is 14-16 July in Dallas, so we should get an updated platform then
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26021 Posts
June 19 2022 20:11 GMT
#73496
On June 20 2022 04:28 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2022 03:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 20 2022 02:53 NewSunshine wrote:
Texas is the test bed for their upcoming brand of authoritarian, single-party rule. They're undoing rights and ignoring elections for as long as nobody stops them.


How do we stop them? When their constituents are conspiracy theorists who refuse to be educated and accept reality, I feel like whatever move we make (ignoring the leaders of this bullshit, calling them out on this bullshit, trying to get people to vote against them, trying to forcibly remove them, etc.) feeds into their conspiracy.

I genuinely don't know. The federal government isn't going to step in to override some of the awful shit happening here, and the government's successfully suppressed voting to one of the worst in the nation, so I'm lost. I don't see the GOP voters changing currently and the Dems aren't doing anything to convince people to not vote GOP

Did someone say Mohdoo IslandTM?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
June 19 2022 20:17 GMT
#73497
to be fair Biden WAS fraudulently elected

User was temp banned for this post.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
June 19 2022 21:04 GMT
#73498
On June 20 2022 05:17 dragoon wrote:
to be fair Biden WAS fraudulently elected

Ah jeez I got to ask if you're serious or sarcastic.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 19 2022 21:16 GMT
#73499
To be fair, down really is up if you think about it
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43212 Posts
June 19 2022 21:37 GMT
#73500
On June 20 2022 06:04 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2022 05:17 dragoon wrote:
to be fair Biden WAS fraudulently elected

Ah jeez I got to ask if you're serious or sarcastic.

I took a look at his post history and he’s serious. Also he dropped out of high school to play Starcraft so they’re really not sending the best people.
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