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On July 18 2020 02:45 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2020 02:21 Lmui wrote:Well can't really say they're doing nothing. USA has cut off Huawei's access to TSMC - after september they lose access to the most advanced silicon nodes https://www.anandtech.com/show/15915/tsmc-confirms-halt-to-huawei-shipments-in-septemberThat severely handicaps their ability to deploy more advanced technology. It's come way too late though, they've gotten gigantic off the backs of stolen IP from Nortel, and other companies around the world. It's realistically too little, too late. Personally I fear there are two outcomes here: 1) The CCP industrial espionage division have gathered enough knowledge about advanced semi conductor manufacturing at this point that China is able to have their own domestic supply chain up and running by the end of the year. This would obviously greatly strengthen the CCP. 2) if (1) is not an option China will invade Taiwan and make TSMC be the foundation of their own domestic supply chain. Cutting China off from advanced semiconductor technology is eerily similar to the US blockading Japanese oil and steel imports in 1940. Many people in the US seems to have this strange idea that Pearl Harbor was an unprovoked surprise attack, when it was actually done in an attempt to lift a blockade strangling the Japanese economy. The Japanese knew war with the US was a huge risk, but a huge risk with some probability of winning was preferable to no access to oil and guaranteed doom for their imperial ambitions. Similarly China obviously knows that annexing Taiwan would carry huge risks, but if the choice is between taking that risk and falling into the middle income trap as their economy is strangled then they will have to take the risk. The bad part (for the people of Taiwan) is that China is in a much much better position to annex Taiwan than Japan ever was to kick the US navy out of the pacific.
It was a a blockade strangling the Japanese economy that was fully geared for their war in china and was actively making glances at everything else in the pacific. Even Woodrow Wilson couldn't look the other way from the rape of Nanjing.
I think a more comparable example would be if Trump threatened the pork exports to china in some way. That would destabilize china in the way that the refusal to sell oil to imperial Japan was like.
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On July 18 2020 02:55 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2020 02:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Our Progressive Supreme Court Lord and Savior, RBG, is sick again  Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Cancer Again, Says She Will Remain On The Court
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says her cancer has returned and that chemotherapy is yielding positive results. In a statement, she said that her most recent scan July 7 "indicated significant reduction of the liver lesions and no new disease."
In the statement, Ginsburg said she began a course of chemotherapy (gemcitabine) on May 19 after a periodic scan in February, followed by a biopsy, revealed lesions on her liver. She said her recent hospitalizations to remove gallstones and treat an infection were unrelated to the recurrence of the cancer.
"Immunotherapy first essayed proved unsuccessful. The chemotherapy course, however, is yielding positive results," the statement said.
The statement added: "I am tolerating chemotherapy well and am encouraged by the success of my current treatment. I will continue bi-weekly chemotherapy to keep my cancer at bay, and am able to maintain an active daily routine. Throughout, I have kept up with opinion writing and all other Court work. I have often said I would remain a member of the Court as long as I can do the job full steam. I remain fully able to do that."
Earlier this week, Ginsburg was admitted to the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore for treatment of a possible infection and was released a day later.
In May, she underwent nonsurgical treatment for a benign gallbladder condition, and participated from the hospital in the Supreme Court's oral arguments. She participated in the court's full term, which ended last week.
Last year, she completed three weeks of radiation treatment after a cancerous tumor was discovered on her pancreas. It was the fourth time in 20 years that she had been treated for cancer, and the second time in a year. In December 2019 she underwent an operation to treat lung cancer. https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892293736/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-has-cancer-again-says-she-will-remain-on-the-court?utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR1Z_1JzXwt3RGmhqHaCd6b9T9wupPYbZW70xAfB7WBl9K_BMU1DEuSJRFg Imagine if Trump gets three SCJ picks. Holy shit. Sotomayor is doing just fine  But yeah, here’s to hoping she holds out for just a few months more.
Hopefully Sotomayor has a good 15+ years left in her too!
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This is just a baffling story to me, like I don't understand the mechanics of it. So they have a federal agency snaching people off the street with no recordings or video or pictures of this happening just so that they can drop those people off a few hours later. Are they trying to intimidate people? Are they trying to shame people with a charge or something? Are they doing a stop and frisk type policy? Is this a black site transport thing?
I don't want to say I don't belive this is happening because it is 2020 and I could see trump doing this but I genuinely don't understand even the trumpian reason for this.
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I read speculation that that video may have been an extraction of an undercover cop. That would explain the oddness of the arrest but I don't know what to believe at this point.
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On July 18 2020 08:53 Starlightsun wrote:
I read speculation that that video may have been an extraction of an undercover cop. That would explain the oddness of the arrest but I don't know what to believe at this point.
Afaik there have been multiple instances, but police subverting protesters and false flagging is a known issue with police, so they could all be instances of that I suppose.
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On July 18 2020 08:31 Sermokala wrote:This is just a baffling story to me, like I don't understand the mechanics of it. So they have a federal agency snaching people off the street with no recordings or video or pictures of this happening just so that they can drop those people off a few hours later. Are they trying to intimidate people? Are they trying to shame people with a charge or something? Are they doing a stop and frisk type policy? Is this a black site transport thing? I don't want to say I don't belive this is happening because it is 2020 and I could see trump doing this but I genuinely don't understand even the trumpian reason for this.
I mean, Portland Antifa members were busy fucking up a federal courthouse in Portland. So my guess is that the department screws up the announcement "... because Portland PD are unwilling to secure the building," and does some hamfisted attempt to screw up the night's firecrackers & molotov fun by detaining those responsible.
This is based on the declaration by Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf (another article on it) that Portland has been under siege for 47 straight days, and local leaders have been impotent to stop the lawless anarchists. Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli said the same thing, that the feds have the right to step in and protect its facilities.
I recall scattered reports from June that protesters/rioters were vandalizing property without a response from the Portland PD. For my own state, a federal officer with DHS was killed as he guarded a courthouse in Oakland, CA.
The whole lack of announcement, nor communication, has to fall on somebody higher up, perhaps Chad Wolf himself.
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On July 18 2020 00:57 Sbrubbles wrote:
Ok, I misunderstood. If he's saying nations should do a military intervention in China now, then that's even crazier than I thought.
Is it ? China is quite determined to become the first power in Asia, and is already claiming isles as their own. Moreso, for the past few years, they've been augmenting steadily their navy. If you honestly believe China will stop their multiples genocides on their own, you're deluded.
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We are living some fun times, USA are becoming more fascists everyday (and for the right wingers here, when your president declares antifa are terrorists, it just means you endorse the fascists... Let's not even talk about the actions of this gvt, usps, militias, etc.) and China's imperialism seems to grow too. If you planned on having kids I strongly suggest to hold on...
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On July 18 2020 15:14 Furikawari wrote:
We are living some fun times, USA are becoming more fascists everyday (and for the right wingers here, when your president declares antifa are terrorists, it just means you endorse the fascists... Let's not even talk about the actions of this gvt, usps, militias, etc.) and China's imperialism seems to grow too. If you planned on having kids I strongly suggest to hold on...
Antifa are left wing terrorists with a plug-and-play ideology justifying violence. And they have many allies that shriek and cry "Fascists" and tacitly condone their violence against cops, civilians, as well as their destruction against courthouses, statues, stores. It's actually sad how much their PR is lapped up by people who should know better. Hurling rocks at cops and injuring professors and doing street melee against counter-protestors does not make your cause righteous, roflmao.
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That's some high level arguments here, nothing to add. "roflmao"
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The name Antifa surely sunds good, but my experience with them, as an organisation, is something else. I used to live a block from their hotspot in Hamburg, observed quite a lot of their demos, and had beers with a few of them. I’ve never seen a demo that had much more of a point than violence against the police (who in Germany are on average pretty damned polite) and I never had a conversation with any of them that showed even the slightest ability to listen to any viewpoint that wasn’t 100% their own.
Any educated human is, or at least SHOULD be, against facism. But I also think the same goes for communism, and that’s what the true believers in Antifa are. The rest are just along for the ride, because it’s fun to throw bricks at cops and set things on fire.
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On July 18 2020 16:12 Schmobutzen wrote:
The name Antifa surely sunds good, but my experience with them, as an organisation, is something else. I used to live a block from their hotspot in Hamburg, observed quite a lot of their demos, and had beers with a few of them. I’ve never seen a demo that had much more of a point than violence against the police (who in Germany are on average pretty damned polite) and I never had a conversation with any of them that showed even the slightest ability to listen to any viewpoint that wasn’t 100% their own.
Any educated human is, or at least SHOULD be, against facism. But I also think the same goes for communism, and that’s what the true believers in Antifa are. The rest are just along for the ride, because it’s fun to throw bricks at cops and set things on fire.
Portland and Seattle are their hotspots here. Their actions are quite contemptible, but they just have this shiny gleam on their black jackets and combat boots that the media and center-left adore. Like you said, they can't be talked to. As others say, the far-right has very clear racial-hierarchy and nationalism that turns people off, but far-left extremists/terrorists adopt the little-guy against big, oppressive structures. Then their bricks and molotovs have "But This Is Good Violence" written across them. Their bats are just property damage, not strikes against civil order and civilization.
The US press rarely has Hamburg & G20 blackbloc in the news, but when they do, it looks pretty bad. And I don't think the movement is full of true believers, like you say. The hardcore are precious few, and the rest just want to crack some skulls and break things to fight the "system," as far as I can tell.
A little unrelated, but this is happening in Chicago. Helmets & shields next time, because Mr. Columbus is worth lobbing fireworks at police to bring down.
This is what people will think of when "defund the police" gets repeated. Iconoclasm reigns supreme, and nothing stays if the mob turns against it.
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Funny to see how both of you sticked to ONE word of the 3 lines I wrote. That must tell something, mustn't it?
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On July 18 2020 17:01 Furikawari wrote:
Funny to see how both of you sticked to ONE word of the 3 lines I wrote. That must tell something, mustn't it?
USA are becoming more fascists everyday.
Calling Antifa terrorism means you endorse the fascists.
China's imperialism is growing.
Don't have kids.
Forgive me for ignoring the pathetic assertion parts of your post to focus in on the most unsupported assertions.
Choose not to have kids yourself, and argue with people that don't think China's imperialistic? Or don't think it's tragic to talk about US Imperialism alongside Chinese imperialism?
Either that or flesh out these thoughts in paragraphs, because all it deserves is unsupported retorts. Namely, stop excusing Antifa terrorism because of your biases, and stop using bad hyperbole to denigrate the US. If there's more to your viewpoints, don't expect people to guess them. Next time, put some skin in the game, and actually say throwing bricks and molotovs in protest is totally justifiable ... because we have enough in this bunch that look no further than "anti" = against and "fascism" = something bad.
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On July 18 2020 17:10 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2020 17:01 Furikawari wrote:
Funny to see how both of you sticked to ONE word of the 3 lines I wrote. That must tell something, mustn't it? USA are becoming more fascists everyday. Calling Antifa terrorism means you endorse the fascists. China's imperialism is growing. Don't have kids. Forgive me for ignoring the pathetic assertion parts of your post to focus in on the most unsupported assertions.
* Your gvt is doing the best that it can to interfere in the vote mailing process,
* In several states lead by people aligned with your gvt voting places are closed, strangely enough in areas that are recognized as being in favor of the other party
* And to add to all of this, it also targets people that can't really afford to take a day off to vote
It looks like a pattern isn't it?
We could also speak about how your gvt reprehended police brutality. Oh wait, they didn't...
Let's not even talk of what is going on in Portland.
We could also speak about how the way your gvt handled covid puts your country in roughly the same category than Russia/Bolsonaro's Brazil.
And yeah, this list could go on and on and...
Choose not to have kids yourself, and argue with people that don't think China's imperialistic? Or don't think it's tragic to talk about US Imperialism alongside Chinese imperialism?
Either that or flesh out these thoughts in paragraphs, because all it deserves is unsupported retorts. Namely, stop excusing Antifa terrorism because of your biases, and stop using bad hyperbole to denigrate the US. If there's more to your viewpoints, don't expect people to guess them. Next time, put some skin in the game, and actually say throwing bricks and molotovs in protest is totally justifiable ...
Qualifying your political opponent of "terrorist" (or enemy of the people or whatever semantically equivalent) is a well known rhetoric of the fascist gvt. And that's not even considering the fact that this is used to discredit the BLM movement.
And btw there is no such things as "antifa terrorism" currently in the USA. Graffiti on courthouse and fed buildings? That's some high profile terrorism right here. (mind you that's what they use as an excuse for wath they are doing in Portland right now).
because we have enough in this bunch that look no further than "anti" = against and "fascism" = something bad.
I guess that it was a mistake and you didnt want to imply that fascism isn't bad.
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On July 18 2020 08:31 Sermokala wrote:This is just a baffling story to me, like I don't understand the mechanics of it. So they have a federal agency snaching people off the street with no recordings or video or pictures of this happening just so that they can drop those people off a few hours later. Are they trying to intimidate people? Are they trying to shame people with a charge or something? Are they doing a stop and frisk type policy? Is this a black site transport thing? I don't want to say I don't belive this is happening because it is 2020 and I could see trump doing this but I genuinely don't understand even the trumpian reason for this.
There were reports of people who couldn’t find their missing friends during the protests. Initially I thought it was just militia groups or local police cosplaying but Portland Police has confirmed federal law enforcement running around shooting gas at protestors. So there is actually a good chance the feds are running around disappearing people they nab.
I have no idea what these things are but I don’t appreciate the secrecy regarding this. At least if you hate Antifa, you know what they are and what they do. No one knows what the hell the feds are doing right now, if they are vanishing protestors where the hell are they going and what is happening to them? Considering the US’ willingness to use brutality in these type of situations, I’m not exactly positive that they’re being treated humanely if they are actually being nabbed off the street.
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I guess that it was a mistake and you didnt want to imply that fascism isn't bad.
I guess your reading skills are not on par than...
Bc I clearly mentioned that one has to be against fascism.
That is just a sign that you don't want to see past your ideology. US getting more fascist? That is the same hyperbole as saying Antifa is a terror group, which it isn't, but could become if their stupid rhetoric becomes festered and then broadly acted upon.
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On July 18 2020 19:23 Schmobutzen wrote:Show nested quote +I guess that it was a mistake and you didnt want to imply that fascism isn't bad. I guess your reading skills are not on par than... Bc I clearly mentioned that one has to be against fascism. That is just a sign that you don't want to see past your ideology. US getting more fascist? That is the same hyperbole as saying Antifa is a terror group, which it isn't, but could become if their stupid rhetoric becomes festered and then broadly acted upon.
Did I quote you? No I didn't. Stop playing the victim. And maybe you should work on your own reading skills...
Regarding what's going on in the USA I gave examples, just saying "no it doesn't" doesn't make an argument.
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Sorry, you are right. My reading skills are not the ones that are on par! My bad, thought you replied with this statement to both of us. After reading it again I knew you weren't! Sorry!
Yeah, examples. They don't make a summer, or how the saying goes.
For fascism you need a lot more than those, clearly disturbing, instances, but not making it fascist or even on the way to it. Fascism gets just too loosely thrown around.
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