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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 20 2019 21:42 GMT
#37301
So they cancelled using Trumps golf resort for the G-7, blaming evil media of course. Here's Mulvaney explaining it.

The president was honestly surprised at the level of pushback, he considers himself still in the hospitality business. He just wanted to put on the best show and was confident doing it at Doral




Imagine having this level of shamelessness. Without a care in the world describing this self dealing bullshit

Now they will have to 'search' for other options. But when he first announced it he said it was selected after a rigorous selection procedure, just because Doral was simply the best and pure coincidence it was also Trump property. /s

That procedure was said to have other options. So why not take the second candidate? Probably because they were all Trump locations too or the whole thing was a lie?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22443 Posts
October 20 2019 21:52 GMT
#37302
I'm just happy the rest of the G7 told him they wouldn't show up instead of putting up with it.
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generalielt
Profile Joined October 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-10-21 00:58:11
October 21 2019 00:58 GMT
#37303
Bot edit.

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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
October 21 2019 01:39 GMT
#37304
On October 21 2019 06:52 Gorsameth wrote:
I'm just happy the rest of the G7 told him they wouldn't show up instead of putting up with it.


Link please!
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8892 Posts
October 21 2019 05:29 GMT
#37305
is mick mulvaney purposely trying to undermine trump or what? how did he think saying trump considered himself to be in the hospitality business was going to be a good thing?
there are so many clowns in government its fucking ridiculous
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-21 11:08:21
October 21 2019 10:51 GMT
#37306
On October 21 2019 14:29 evilfatsh1t wrote:
is mick mulvaney purposely trying to undermine trump or what? how did he think saying trump considered himself to be in the hospitality business was going to be a good thing?
there are so many clowns in government its fucking ridiculous

Garry Kasparov often describes these kind of outrageous acts by authoritarians as a test. For one it's testing the boundaries of what they can get away with. If there is no consequence for doing it they will make it the new norm, and go one step further next time. And secondary it's a loyalty/purity test. Even if they don't get away with it, they can see who would defend them regardless of the bad act.


The sentiment is echoed by the former White House ethics director
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
October 21 2019 18:06 GMT
#37307
I advice to watch this video; I would elaborate on this, but this song is pretty explanatory: bottom line is, it's right outside your door


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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 22 2019 16:35 GMT
#37308
Trump invoking "lynching" makes me think something damaging will happen today, even if it isn't a breaking point or anything.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
October 22 2019 16:39 GMT
#37309
On October 23 2019 01:35 Mohdoo wrote:
Trump invoking "lynching" makes me think something damaging will happen today, even if it isn't a breaking point or anything.


I don't think so, he is just kinda crazy with what he says.

A insane trump tweet isnt a sign of anything more than trump is insane these days
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redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
October 22 2019 17:16 GMT
#37310
How is Tulsi still around? She didnt Make the 3rd debate, only appeared on the 4th debate for approx 5minutes, and now all of the sudden she has the Hillary Clinton gas-lighting her. Meanwhile Tulsi is showing up on Fox News of all places spouting all sorts of cunning cliches trite phases about how their is no civility in the democratic process. I cannot comprehend why the media is highlighting a candidate that is polling at 0.7% so prominently.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 22 2019 17:44 GMT
#37311
On October 23 2019 02:16 redlightdistrict wrote:
How is Tulsi still around? She didnt Make the 3rd debate, only appeared on the 4th debate for approx 5minutes, and now all of the sudden she has the Hillary Clinton gas-lighting her. Meanwhile Tulsi is showing up on Fox News of all places spouting all sorts of cunning cliches trite phases about how their is no civility in the democratic process. I cannot comprehend why the media is highlighting a candidate that is polling at 0.7% so prominently.


She's being artificially inflated because the media wants additional dramatic storylines for people to tune into the same way they'd watch a soap opera. She's just the next Jill Stein. Same reason media companies seem to insist on asking every single nominee if they would consider a run as a 3rd party if they don't win. A super small number of candidates would ever consider that, but the media likes to pretend it is a valid question.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 19:03:19
October 22 2019 19:00 GMT
#37312
On October 23 2019 01:35 Mohdoo wrote:
Trump invoking "lynching" makes me think something damaging will happen today, even if it isn't a breaking point or anything.

Bill Taylor, the diplomat that said in the texts with Sonderland "I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign" is being interviewed by the impeachment inquiry today

Apparently he directly confirms the link between the aid and the Biden stuff



So he probably thought it was better that people talk about his disgusting comparison to a lynching than this
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RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1093 Posts
October 22 2019 19:48 GMT
#37313
The real story is Bill Taylor.

The lynching story is just a politician (or other prominent figure) casually using a phrase that probably should not be used casually, but often is. It seems pretty stupid to make a big deal out of it now, when it usually amounts to nothing. But of course the twitter mob has to get outraged and give us the holier than thou history lesson rather than focus on what’s important.

Bill Taylor is important. I don’t think Trump does this on purpose, but his ability to induce stupid outrage provides a lot of cover for his actual crimes.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27110 Posts
October 22 2019 19:56 GMT
#37314
On October 23 2019 04:48 RenSC2 wrote:
The real story is Bill Taylor.

The lynching story is just a politician (or other prominent figure) casually using a phrase that probably should not be used casually, but often is. It seems pretty stupid to make a big deal out of it now, when it usually amounts to nothing. But of course the twitter mob has to get outraged and give us the holier than thou history lesson rather than focus on what’s important.

Bill Taylor is important. I don’t think Trump does this on purpose, but his ability to induce stupid outrage provides a lot of cover for his actual crimes.

Indeed. If Trump was not to one’s taste politically but relatively squeaky-clean I could understand jumping on something like this, as this manifestly is not the case it just feels like it redirects energy away from his more egregious conduct.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 22 2019 20:14 GMT
#37315
Bill Taylor’s testimony was the closest to a smoking gun we’ve had so far, things could speed up.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
October 22 2019 20:28 GMT
#37316
On October 23 2019 05:14 farvacola wrote:
Bill Taylor’s testimony was the closest to a smoking gun we’ve had so far, things could speed up.


We just have reports on it right? It was behind closed doors wassnt it?
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 22 2019 20:32 GMT
#37317
Yep, it’s all recollections at this point.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 22 2019 20:37 GMT
#37318
So let's say we have sworn testimony saying Trump directed all the bad shit we think he did. But no recording or whatever. What counts as evidence? Post meeting notes? How does this work?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 22 2019 20:43 GMT
#37319
There’s certainly a transcript, so there’s no issue in terms of evidencing Taylor’s testimony, it’s more a question of how the testimony is disseminated.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 22 2019 20:52 GMT
#37320
On October 23 2019 05:43 farvacola wrote:
There’s certainly a transcript, so there’s no issue in terms of evidencing Taylor’s testimony, it’s more a question of how the testimony is disseminated.

So you're saying Taylor's recollection is considered evidence?
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