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On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh?
Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US?
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On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US?
I just thought that since the USA is always going on about how it's all about loving freedom and things like the right to "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" they should be willing to do something when these rights they hold in such high regard are taken away from others. Crazy thought, I know.
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On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US?
Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family.
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On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family.
I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel.
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On March 06 2019 02:39 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family. I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel.
This is quite some revisionist history. If you hadn't treated them like trash for the last 20 years and been all buddy buddy with Bibi, they might not hate you.
Although I do agree with you that given that you're the bully that keeps punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money, even if you stop punching them, they won't suddenly like you. So might as well go on punching. Amirite?
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On March 06 2019 02:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:39 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family. I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel. This is quite some revisionist history. If you hadn't treated them like trash for the last 20 years and been all buddy buddy with Bibi, they might not hate you. Although I do agree with you that given that you're the bully that keeps punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money, even if you stop punching them, they won't suddenly like you. So might as well go on punching. Amirite?
I find it hilarious that you think that my post is "revisionist history" when there's no history in it at all. In fact, every sentence is in present or future tense.
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On March 06 2019 02:45 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:44 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 02:39 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family. I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel. This is quite some revisionist history. If you hadn't treated them like trash for the last 20 years and been all buddy buddy with Bibi, they might not hate you. Although I do agree with you that given that you're the bully that keeps punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money, even if you stop punching them, they won't suddenly like you. So might as well go on punching. Amirite? I find it hilarious that you think that my post is "revisionist history" when there's no history in it at all. In fact, every sentence is in present or future tense.
I think he is pointing out how you left out WHY Palestine might not like the US, as it is just born in them and not something we contributed too
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On March 06 2019 02:50 IyMoon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:45 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:44 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 02:39 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family. I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel. This is quite some revisionist history. If you hadn't treated them like trash for the last 20 years and been all buddy buddy with Bibi, they might not hate you. Although I do agree with you that given that you're the bully that keeps punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money, even if you stop punching them, they won't suddenly like you. So might as well go on punching. Amirite? I find it hilarious that you think that my post is "revisionist history" when there's no history in it at all. In fact, every sentence is in present or future tense. I think he is pointing out how you left out WHY Palestine might not like the US, as it is just born in them and not something we contributed too
Yes, curious that I left the “why” out. Why might that be? Could it possibly be because that I find it irrelevant to the forward-looking point that I made?
Regardless, accusing me of “revisionist history” when there is no history is yet another example of why I rag on most posters in the thread for failing to read my posts and opting instead to relentlessly strawman me. We already have two good examples of this today, and it is not even noon yet where I am.
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On March 06 2019 03:04 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:50 IyMoon wrote:On March 06 2019 02:45 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:44 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 02:39 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family. I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel. This is quite some revisionist history. If you hadn't treated them like trash for the last 20 years and been all buddy buddy with Bibi, they might not hate you. Although I do agree with you that given that you're the bully that keeps punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money, even if you stop punching them, they won't suddenly like you. So might as well go on punching. Amirite? I find it hilarious that you think that my post is "revisionist history" when there's no history in it at all. In fact, every sentence is in present or future tense. I think he is pointing out how you left out WHY Palestine might not like the US, as it is just born in them and not something we contributed too Yes, curious that I left the “why” out. Why might that be? Could it possibly be because that I find it irrelevant to then forward-looking point that I made? Regardless, accusing me of “revisionist history” when there is no history is yet another example of why I rag on most posters in the thread for failing to read my posts and opting instead to relentlessly strawman me. We already have two good examples of this today, and it is not even noon yet where I am.
Why do you think the cause of strife is irreverent? The first way to mend a broken relationship is to figure out what broke it in the first place. That and having will to fix it
Yes, curious that I left the “why” out. Why might that be? Could it possibly be because that I find it irrelevant to then forward-looking point that I made?
Also, probably a less dickish way to get your point across
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On March 05 2019 23:03 Plansix wrote:
I too need further explanation why we are supposed to believe that folks from Somalia are predisposed to anti-Semitic beliefs.
Do I really need to explain why poor people from a third world country in chaos in an arab world that has built up isreal to be the scapegoat of all their problems blame the jews living in said isreal for their problems?
Is Muslims hating jews really such a foreign concept to people? I'm not saying that ilhan omar is anti semenic. I'm saying the stain of anti-Semitism is on her from parts of her community being anti semetic.
Half the responses to my post the other day were either nebs incoherent ramblings or wildly confusing misunderstandings of my post that I didn't have the patience to clarify every part of at the time. So I guess that gives me the stink of "ignoring the questions" even though we were told to ignore posts we didn't feel the need to respond to.
On March 06 2019 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:
I want Israel to be taken down a notch, but having someone from Somalia as our party's messenger is absolute madness. The optics are terrible. I don't think being from Somalia makes you racist, but it does make it easy for other people to disregard it as antisemitism
I mean sherpa derp when mohdoo understands what I ment and agrees with me without an issue.
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On March 06 2019 03:30 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 23:03 Plansix wrote:
I too need further explanation why we are supposed to believe that folks from Somalia are predisposed to anti-Semitic beliefs. Do I really need to explain why poor people from a third world country in chaos in an arab world that has built up isreal to be the scapegoat of all their problems blame the jews living in said isreal for their problems? Is Muslims hating jews really such a foreign concept to people? I'm not saying that ilhan omar is anti semenic. I'm saying the stain of anti-Semitism is on her from parts of her community being anti semetic. Half the responses to my post the other day were either nebs incoherent ramblings or wildly confusing misunderstandings of my post that I didn't have the patience to clarify every part of at the time. So I guess that gives me the stink of "ignoring the questions" even though we were told to ignore posts we didn't feel the need to respond to.
This approach is fine, I guess. I also means that we can freely associate all US Conservatives with the KKK and white supremacists without worrying about painting with a broad brush.
Edit: I really question how much people in this thread know about Somalia. I’m happy to admit I don’t know enough to discuss who they have biases against.
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On March 06 2019 03:09 IyMoon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:04 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:50 IyMoon wrote:On March 06 2019 02:45 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:44 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 02:39 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family. I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel. This is quite some revisionist history. If you hadn't treated them like trash for the last 20 years and been all buddy buddy with Bibi, they might not hate you. Although I do agree with you that given that you're the bully that keeps punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money, even if you stop punching them, they won't suddenly like you. So might as well go on punching. Amirite? I find it hilarious that you think that my post is "revisionist history" when there's no history in it at all. In fact, every sentence is in present or future tense. I think he is pointing out how you left out WHY Palestine might not like the US, as it is just born in them and not something we contributed too Yes, curious that I left the “why” out. Why might that be? Could it possibly be because that I find it irrelevant to then forward-looking point that I made? Regardless, accusing me of “revisionist history” when there is no history is yet another example of why I rag on most posters in the thread for failing to read my posts and opting instead to relentlessly strawman me. We already have two good examples of this today, and it is not even noon yet where I am. Why do you think the cause of strife is irreverent? The first way to mend a broken relationship is to figure out what broke it in the first place. That and having will to fix it
American treatment of the Palestinians fundamentally doesn't matter to my forward-looking prescription because the Palestinians and, to a lesser extent, the Israelis, will not accept peaceful coexistence. This means we have to choose a side. Throw in Palestinian incompatibility with and rejection of Western values as well as the deep-rooted hatred that Palestinians now have for Americans (regardless of whether it's deserved), and it becomes apparent that the only rational position for the US to take is to support Israel.
Also, probably a less dickish way to get your point across
As usual, I didn't throw the first punch. Feel free to call out the offending parties who started this.
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On March 06 2019 02:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:39 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 02:31 nojok wrote:On March 06 2019 01:20 xDaunt wrote:On March 06 2019 01:18 PoulsenB wrote:
USA has a long history of ignoring the atrocities committed by their allies, them turning a blind eye to what Israel is doing in Palestinian territory is not surprising at all. Bastards, but our bastards, eh? Why is it in the American interest to support Palestine at all? What do they do for the US? Your country is spending hundreds of billions every year to do pointless wars in this area of the world, it would certainly help to stop humiliating Palestinians, unless of course you're a big weapon seller which is not the case of the immense majority of Americans. Of course you have a few choosen families which benefit from it, like the Bush family. I'm in favor of reining in American adventurism, as are most Trump supporters. Democrats and neocons (not always two different things) are the ones who are in favor of continuing it. But as for Palestine specifically, the Palestinians will never be friends of America. They are already hostile to our interests and values. There is no reason to give them aid or otherwise support them rather than Israel. This is quite some revisionist history. If you hadn't treated them like trash for the last 20 years and been all buddy buddy with Bibi, they might not hate you. Although I do agree with you that given that you're the bully that keeps punching them in the face and stealing their lunch money, even if you stop punching them, they won't suddenly like you. So might as well go on punching. Amirite?
The world has treated the palestinians like trash for much longer then 20 years. The last time there was an independent nation where Isreal is it was Isreal and judah way back 2600 years ago.
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On March 06 2019 03:34 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:30 Sermokala wrote:On March 05 2019 23:03 Plansix wrote:
I too need further explanation why we are supposed to believe that folks from Somalia are predisposed to anti-Semitic beliefs. Do I really need to explain why poor people from a third world country in chaos in an arab world that has built up isreal to be the scapegoat of all their problems blame the jews living in said isreal for their problems? Is Muslims hating jews really such a foreign concept to people? I'm not saying that ilhan omar is anti semenic. I'm saying the stain of anti-Semitism is on her from parts of her community being anti semetic. Half the responses to my post the other day were either nebs incoherent ramblings or wildly confusing misunderstandings of my post that I didn't have the patience to clarify every part of at the time. So I guess that gives me the stink of "ignoring the questions" even though we were told to ignore posts we didn't feel the need to respond to. This approach is fine, I guess. I also means that we can freely associate all US Conservatives with the KKK and white supremacists without worrying about painting with a broad brush.
A lack of conviction in your beliefs isn't funny. You can't say that painting with a broad brush is unacceptable and unthinkable in one breath and then completely flip yourself the other way in the next because someone confronts you that people associations shape them.
It is painting with a broad brush to say that ilhan omar is anti-semetic. But even that analogy implies there's something near here to paint her that way.
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On March 06 2019 03:43 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:34 Plansix wrote:On March 06 2019 03:30 Sermokala wrote:On March 05 2019 23:03 Plansix wrote:
I too need further explanation why we are supposed to believe that folks from Somalia are predisposed to anti-Semitic beliefs. Do I really need to explain why poor people from a third world country in chaos in an arab world that has built up isreal to be the scapegoat of all their problems blame the jews living in said isreal for their problems? Is Muslims hating jews really such a foreign concept to people? I'm not saying that ilhan omar is anti semenic. I'm saying the stain of anti-Semitism is on her from parts of her community being anti semetic. Half the responses to my post the other day were either nebs incoherent ramblings or wildly confusing misunderstandings of my post that I didn't have the patience to clarify every part of at the time. So I guess that gives me the stink of "ignoring the questions" even though we were told to ignore posts we didn't feel the need to respond to. This approach is fine, I guess. I also means that we can freely associate all US Conservatives with the KKK and white supremacists without worrying about painting with a broad brush. A lack of conviction in your beliefs isn't funny. You can't say that painting with a broad brush is unacceptable and unthinkable in one breath and then completely flip yourself the other way in the next because someone confronts you that people associations shape them. It is painting with a broad brush to say that ilhan omar is anti-semetic. But even that analogy implies there's something near here to paint her that way.
I would be impressed if you provided even a single scrap of evidence that people from the nation of Somalia have long standing culture prone to anti-Semitism equal to that of, I don't know, Poland or Russia. Like where do they fall on the scale of historically hating Jews? Because I feel that folks would justifiably question a statement about a Polish community being anti-Semitic without any further evidence beyond "well they are Polish and you know those Poles."
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On March 06 2019 03:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:43 Sermokala wrote:On March 06 2019 03:34 Plansix wrote:On March 06 2019 03:30 Sermokala wrote:On March 05 2019 23:03 Plansix wrote:
I too need further explanation why we are supposed to believe that folks from Somalia are predisposed to anti-Semitic beliefs. Do I really need to explain why poor people from a third world country in chaos in an arab world that has built up isreal to be the scapegoat of all their problems blame the jews living in said isreal for their problems? Is Muslims hating jews really such a foreign concept to people? I'm not saying that ilhan omar is anti semenic. I'm saying the stain of anti-Semitism is on her from parts of her community being anti semetic. Half the responses to my post the other day were either nebs incoherent ramblings or wildly confusing misunderstandings of my post that I didn't have the patience to clarify every part of at the time. So I guess that gives me the stink of "ignoring the questions" even though we were told to ignore posts we didn't feel the need to respond to. This approach is fine, I guess. I also means that we can freely associate all US Conservatives with the KKK and white supremacists without worrying about painting with a broad brush. A lack of conviction in your beliefs isn't funny. You can't say that painting with a broad brush is unacceptable and unthinkable in one breath and then completely flip yourself the other way in the next because someone confronts you that people associations shape them. It is painting with a broad brush to say that ilhan omar is anti-semetic. But even that analogy implies there's something near here to paint her that way. I would be impressed if you provided even a single scrap of evidence that people from the nation of Somalia have long standing culture prone to anti-Semitism equal to that of, I don't know, Poland or Russia. Like where do they fall on the scale of historically hating Jews? Because I feel that folks would justifiably question a statement about a Polish community being anti-Semitic without any further evidence beyond "well they are Polish and you know those Poles."
I make a claim based on relatively recent anti-Isreal propaganda. You ignore said claim and decide I mean that they just hate jews. Then you for some reason bring the poles and Russians in for a "whataboutism" distraction.
This is just ignoring my post and substituting what you want my post to be. There isn't anything to connect what you replied to.
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On March 06 2019 04:01 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:49 Plansix wrote:On March 06 2019 03:43 Sermokala wrote:On March 06 2019 03:34 Plansix wrote:On March 06 2019 03:30 Sermokala wrote:On March 05 2019 23:03 Plansix wrote:
I too need further explanation why we are supposed to believe that folks from Somalia are predisposed to anti-Semitic beliefs. Do I really need to explain why poor people from a third world country in chaos in an arab world that has built up isreal to be the scapegoat of all their problems blame the jews living in said isreal for their problems? Is Muslims hating jews really such a foreign concept to people? I'm not saying that ilhan omar is anti semenic. I'm saying the stain of anti-Semitism is on her from parts of her community being anti semetic. Half the responses to my post the other day were either nebs incoherent ramblings or wildly confusing misunderstandings of my post that I didn't have the patience to clarify every part of at the time. So I guess that gives me the stink of "ignoring the questions" even though we were told to ignore posts we didn't feel the need to respond to. This approach is fine, I guess. I also means that we can freely associate all US Conservatives with the KKK and white supremacists without worrying about painting with a broad brush. A lack of conviction in your beliefs isn't funny. You can't say that painting with a broad brush is unacceptable and unthinkable in one breath and then completely flip yourself the other way in the next because someone confronts you that people associations shape them. It is painting with a broad brush to say that ilhan omar is anti-semetic. But even that analogy implies there's something near here to paint her that way. I would be impressed if you provided even a single scrap of evidence that people from the nation of Somalia have long standing culture prone to anti-Semitism equal to that of, I don't know, Poland or Russia. Like where do they fall on the scale of historically hating Jews? Because I feel that folks would justifiably question a statement about a Polish community being anti-Semitic without any further evidence beyond "well they are Polish and you know those Poles." I make a claim based on relatively recent anti-Isreal propaganda. You ignore said claim and decide I mean that they just hate jews. Then you for some reason bring the poles and Russians in for a "whataboutism" distraction. This is just ignoring my post and substituting what you want my post to be. There isn't anything to connect what you replied to.
No. I'm demanding, like other are, for you to show your work. Ilhan Omar is from a specific community that has immigrants from Somalia. Does her community have a problem with anti-Semitism? Or do they not like the nation of Israel because of their current actions and forcing Palestinians to live what have become ghettos? Because most of her comments have been focused on the uncomfortable truth that Israel is not the same country we supported even 10 years ago and their actions a number of Americans uncomfortable. And frankly, I'm sort of tired of being quite about it too.
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