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pr0n
United States277 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:11 oneofthem wrote: hilary is probably better as far as policy goes, i dont think she's serious about any ideology. She is a very good politician, IE good at telling people what they want to hear regardless of its veracity. | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
perhaps the easiest election in the history of united states government is about to occur, and they are about to fuck it up by either running a black man or a woman good job donkeys | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:03 pr0n wrote: Actually, Bush's intelligence is well above average (hello MBA from Harvard???), and based on the fact that you think speaking skill suggests otherwise, WELL above yours. I don't know why people CONTINUE to think there is a correlation between forensic skill and intelligence after 6 years of Bush. Competence != intelligence. Besides being a qualified student there are other ways to get into prestigious schools and come out with degrees. It was Yale though. You can judge intelligence from speaking skill. Some bad speaking due to trivial errors, does not necessarily matter. Like speaking with proper sentences, good pronunciation, etc. Most people accept these things from Bush and it personally isn't my biggest complaint with his speaking. I have problems with the fallacious arguments he makes. I'd expect someone who "well above average intelligence" to be able to explain their beliefs when facing difficult questions. | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
We need more opinions of Clinton-fans to counter your statements. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
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pr0n
United States277 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:17 Servolisk wrote: Besides being a qualified student there are other ways to get into prestigious schools and come out with degrees. It was Yale though. You can judge intelligence from speaking skill. Some bad speaking due to trivial errors, does not necessarily matter. Like speaking with proper sentences, good pronunciation, etc. Most people accept these things from Bush and it personally isn't my biggest complaint with his speaking. I have problems with the fallacious arguments he makes. I'd expect someone who "well above average intelligence" to be able to explain their beliefs when facing difficult questions. No, Bush's MBA is from Harvard. | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:17 lil.sis wrote: the fucking democrats are so stupid perhaps the easiest election in the history of united states government is about to occur, and they are about to fuck it up by either running a black man or a woman good job donkeys Perhaps that is why Hilary and Obama want to run this year. It is probably the best opportunity to finally get a woman or black man. If not now, then it probably won't happen in a very, very, very long time. Anyway, who would you prefer? John Edwards? He didn't impress people in 04, iirc. And him running might be a repeat of the 04 platform, a democrat running on the basis of not being republican. | ||
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pr0n
United States277 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:17 Servolisk wrote: I'd expect someone who "well above average intelligence" to be able to explain their beliefs when facing difficult questions. I know YOU would expect that, but that's because you STILL think there is a correlation between intelligence and speaking prowess. Many incredibly smart people are just not good at communicating their ideas to the average Joe, or at communicating on the spot. Language skill is controlled by a portion of the brain that has little effect on other areas of intelligence. You can stick to your opinion, but science will tell you you are wrong. I'm leaving until the superfight. Carry on your flamewar without me. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On January 26 2007 14:59 Servolisk wrote: "I'm optimistically hoping for being able to find some common ground with Excalibur_Z about disliking Hilary. Excal, I hope you contribute to this thread and confirm my dislike with some dirt you have on her" Excalibur_Z? When he talks about e-Sports and gaming, I listen! When he talks to about politics, I skip : ) This way I can still see him as a shining tl.net light! | ||
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pr0n
United States277 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:21 Servolisk wrote: Anyway, who would you prefer? John Edwards? He didn't impress people in 04, iirc. And him running might be a repeat of the 04 platform, a democrat running on the basis of not being republican. That's better than any other Democrat's platform. | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
04 was a fiasco because john kerry is a disgusting pretentious idiot if the ticket had been edwards/kerry you would have seen a different result | ||
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SuN-TzU
United States213 Posts
On January 26 2007 16:04 pr0n wrote: I personally did not like him because of some of his views on drugs and race. I've seen quotes by him before he ran for senate indicating that he was very pro-drug, and not just marijuana. He said he thought drugs were a good escape for inner-city youth, and stuff like that. Chances are you are either blowing something he said out of proportion or making stuff up. So, that either makes you an idiot or liar... you pick. I don't believe that a public figure can be elected to offices such as the mayor of Chicago and the United States Senate if he walked around saying its okay for kids to shoot up. Citation please, I want to see his exact words in its complete and original context. | ||
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pr0n
United States277 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:26 lil.sis wrote: it just amazes me that they manage to fuck up elections when seriously any breathing white male that is not republican can landslide 04 was a fiasco because john kerry is a disgusting pretentious idiot if the ticket had been edwards/kerry you would have seen a different result I had the account EdwardsForPres on bnet because I was pro Kerry being elected then assassinated. Later, I'm off. | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:24 pr0n wrote: I know YOU would expect that, but that's because you STILL think there is a correlation between intelligence and speaking prowess. Many incredibly smart people are just not good at communicating their ideas to the average Joe, or at communicating on the spot. Language skill is controlled by a portion of the brain that has little effect on other areas of intelligence. You can stick to your opinion, but science will tell you you are wrong. "Language is controlled by a portion of the brain that ..." OK, thanks. Are you really qualified to say? Anyway, I'm primarily judging speaking by the content of their message rather than the delivery. Bush usually has poor content and faulty reasoning | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:14 pr0n wrote: of course, which means she will be very affected by the central opinion on things, she's no revolutionary, nor does she care about politics. so having hilary up there is like having a queen who doesn't do stuff on her own. She is a very good politician, IE good at telling people what they want to hear regardless of its veracity. this is assuming teh interest groups/think tanks for obama/hilary are the same. keep in mind that i'm as far from a democrat (or republican) as one can be. | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:03 pr0n wrote: Actually, Bush's intelligence is well above average (hello MBA from Harvard???), and based on the fact that you think speaking skill suggests otherwise, WELL above yours. I don't know why people CONTINUE to think there is a correlation between forensic skill and intelligence after 6 years of Bush. Competence != intelligence. A presidential candidate who cannot remember the name of Pakistan's head of state, thinks Greeks are Grecians, Nigeria is an important continent, and that the Internet is plural is a certified dumbass. I am certain also that his MBA and his C in Yale has jackshit to do with his actual ability. | ||
uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
the republicans do a much better job of making their candidates look good and democrats look bad, and fooling the average american (which is not hard, b/c, let's face it, electing bush twice in a row takes at least some measure of idiocy) but actually none of this matters, what the u.s. needs is a proportional representation system | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
would be funny if he got elected though people looking back in history would be like LOL | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
On January 26 2007 17:47 uhjoo wrote: i love how people love to bash kerry, who is smart, a proven leader, and a decorated vietnam veteran (a bronze star, a silver star, 3 purple hearts) because karl rove is a master propagandist the republicans do a much better job of making their candidates look good and democrats look bad, and fooling the average american (which is not hard, b/c, let's face it, electing bush twice in a row takes at least some measure of idiocy) but actually none of this matters, what the u.s. needs is a proportional representation system ?? House of representatives ?? | ||
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