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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
January 27 2007 03:05 GMT
#121
I'm greatly confused by the strength getting attributed to McCain.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 27 2007 03:27 GMT
#122
On January 27 2007 12:05 Servolisk wrote:
I'm greatly confused by the strength getting attributed to McCain.


Maybe you'll be less confused when he runs and wins.
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
January 27 2007 03:35 GMT
#123
On January 27 2007 12:27 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2007 12:05 Servolisk wrote:
I'm greatly confused by the strength getting attributed to McCain.


Maybe you'll be less confused when he runs and wins.


Thanks, now I get it.
wtf was that signature
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 27 2007 03:59 GMT
#124
On January 27 2007 12:35 Servolisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2007 12:27 ManaBlue wrote:
On January 27 2007 12:05 Servolisk wrote:
I'm greatly confused by the strength getting attributed to McCain.


Maybe you'll be less confused when he runs and wins.


Thanks, now I get it.


Haha, fine I was being a dick. But you're not serious are you?

McCain has all the backing of the republican base due to his pro-life views, but he has much more palletable views from the perspective of more liberal and middle leaning voters in terms of foreign policy, torcher, etc.

He's basically the anti-bush, but he's still a republican. He's perfectly positioned to take office. If you add to that the fact that the dems are leaning to putting a woman up against him you're looking at a fairly good bet for the next president.
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Clutch3
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1344 Posts
January 27 2007 04:34 GMT
#125
On January 27 2007 12:59 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2007 12:35 Servolisk wrote:
On January 27 2007 12:27 ManaBlue wrote:
On January 27 2007 12:05 Servolisk wrote:
I'm greatly confused by the strength getting attributed to McCain.


Maybe you'll be less confused when he runs and wins.


Thanks, now I get it.


Haha, fine I was being a dick. But you're not serious are you?

McCain has all the backing of the republican base due to his pro-life views, but he has much more palletable views from the perspective of more liberal and middle leaning voters in terms of foreign policy, torcher, etc.

He's basically the anti-bush, but he's still a republican. He's perfectly positioned to take office. If you add to that the fact that the dems are leaning to putting a woman up against him you're looking at a fairly good bet for the next president.


Well, I agree that if McCain gets the nomination, he probably beats anyone the Dems have (this is as things currently stand... who knows what will happen in the next 21 months). At this point he has broad crossover appeal.

But McCain's gonna have a hard time getting the nomination. He's actually more liked by independents than Republicans, and even Dems like him almost as much as conservatives.

As of right now, Giuliani is running 8% ahead of him (this is with a lot of others in the same poll, so who knows which of them gets the support if the other candidates drop out), and I've got to think that Giuliani will only gain support versus McCain. McCain's strong support for the surge will likely hurt him as time goes on, unless things really change for the better in Iraq. On other issues, Giuliani's got more strengths and fewer weaknesses with the Republican base. I think he fares better than McCain as time goes on.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political Tracking/Republican Primary/GOPPrimary012307.htm
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
January 27 2007 04:39 GMT
#126
McCain is far from anti-Bush, and there are a lot of conservatives that don't like him. It's not given that he will get the Republican nomination.

I don't get the feeling he is popular now, although he was around 04, a lot has changed. His strength seemed to be he was a compromise between Bush and democrats, but it did not last.

Given how the media got on Kerry for being a flip flopper they should have a field day with McCain.

Also, he is not a very convincing speaker.
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
January 27 2007 04:41 GMT
#127
What does Giuliani have going for him other than being mayor of New York during 9/11?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 27 2007 04:57 GMT
#128
I don't see either being elected, especially the frigid bitch that is Hillary.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 27 2007 05:34 GMT
#129
On January 27 2007 13:39 Servolisk wrote:
McCain is far from anti-Bush, and there are a lot of conservatives that don't like him. It's not given that he will get the Republican nomination.

I don't get the feeling he is popular now, although he was around 04, a lot has changed. His strength seemed to be he was a compromise between Bush and democrats, but it did not last.

Given how the media got on Kerry for being a flip flopper they should have a field day with McCain.

Also, he is not a very convincing speaker.


That's true, he might have a hard time getting the nomination. The flip flop thing is a non issue though. The reason kerry got burned for that is that the republicans were way better at media manipulation than the dems who were basically pathetic in every side of campaigning.

Seriously, it's like the dems like to lose.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-27 06:14:52
January 27 2007 05:52 GMT
#130
My post hi-jacked thread. o_O)
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
HAZE.tQ
Profile Joined October 2006
United States251 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-28 05:24:45
January 27 2007 08:04 GMT
#131
On January 26 2007 20:24 pr0n wrote:
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On January 26 2007 17:57 HAZE.tQ wrote:
Someone re-ban pr0n please. He's a fucking Rtard.


I'm sorry that i disagree with you. Clearly you are the only person on this forum entitled to an opinion.

EDIT: Actually if you want me to counter your point, I'm probably in the top 5% of the forum for intelligence, and top 1% for education. And yes, I have the test scores and degrees to back that up. But that doesn't matter. What matters is you didn't even counter any of my points; you just ask me to be banned for being right.

You make TL a not so happy place eversince you came here. Rebuting other people opinions on the basis of trying to be smart isnt called intelligence. what a fucking child






and please make it an IP ban or else O ya what what your old qoute on your flame account aka "pr0n-"? Was it "making myself look stupid" re-ban this flaming piece of shit.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 27 2007 08:18 GMT
#132
Haze, your post is as unintelligible as it is whiney. Mods ban people when they damn well please and your bitching is far more irritating than pron's superiority complex. Shut the hell up.

Being a self-righteous, pompous, asshole is not in and of itself worthy of a ban. If anything pron has now doomed himself to being disliked on the forum, as that little quip will be used against him every other time he posts for the rest of his time here. Rest easy with that in mind.
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HAZE.tQ
Profile Joined October 2006
United States251 Posts
January 27 2007 08:22 GMT
#133
Orly?
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 27 2007 08:29 GMT
#134
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Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-27 08:31:39
January 27 2007 08:31 GMT
#135
On January 26 2007 20:24 pr0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2007 17:57 HAZE.tQ wrote:
Someone re-ban pr0n please. He's a fucking Rtard.


I'm sorry that i disagree with you. Clearly you are the only person on this forum entitled to an opinion.

EDIT: Actually if you want me to counter your point, I'm probably in the top 5% of the forum for intelligence, and top 1% for education. And yes, I have the test scores and degrees to back that up. But that doesn't matter. What matters is you didn't even counter any of my points; you just ask me to be banned for being right.


~_~ My test scores > your test scores. Wanna bet?

What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
whatever
Profile Joined July 2005
Mexico693 Posts
January 27 2007 08:32 GMT
#136
On January 26 2007 23:19 QuietIdiot wrote:
The fucking south is gonna screw over him and hilary. (America, sadly, is not ready for a minority nor a woman leader...I think Hilary is a cold bitch, STILL A LITTLE STINGY ABOUT THE SNUGGLY FUN EH?)

CONSERVATIVE MOTHER FUCKERS VOTED FOR BUSH..TWICE.
THEYRE FUCKING TO BLAME. I' believe an ex-vice president like al gore woulda made better situations than this fucktard. (Screw kerry, he is a joke.)

But I'm trying to be short and up to the point here, think how BIll got elected. A talented public speaker and intelligent man, he didn't have a strong political background to start his run for the presidency.(An average governor from Arkansas.) But after giving a speech at a democratic convention in 1990, he gained fame, and boom. Knocked off bush. sr with class. (His rhetoric being, "Its the economy, stupid.")

I see obama possible, probably a better chance than hilary to get the focus, but those fucking uneducated stereotypically lesser culturally experienced individuals from the incestuous lands of countrymen. No, just no...


Makes you wonder why the US hasn´t disintegrated. There really isn´t much in common between some (many?) parts of the states. Maybe if a conservative gets elected in 2008 it will help people realize this, and start some kind of movement for disintegration wich imo would be more beneficial than Hillary in the office.

Time is always on my side
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-27 08:32:45
January 27 2007 08:32 GMT
#137
On January 27 2007 11:37 MoltkeWarding wrote:
when their party is able to cast off the Bush legacy and offer their lineup of superstar candidates.


about as superstar - and as easily elected - as the Zambia A WCG BW lineup
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-28 05:25:03
January 28 2007 05:02 GMT
#138
[QUOTE]On January 27 2007 17:04 HAZE.tQ wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 26 2007 20:24 pr0n wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 26 2007 17:57 HAZE.tQ wrote:
Someone re-ban pr0n please. He's a fucking Rtard.[/QUOTE]
shit[/QUOTE]
I think I speak for all of us when I say

Suck it up, princess.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 28 2007 05:53 GMT
#139
On January 27 2007 13:41 Servolisk wrote:
What does Giuliani have going for him other than being mayor of New York during 9/11?


What else could you need? He was very well-known and respected for that and it's going to work in his favor. He looks like the strength the people want to see when they elect a president. He's got a good shot because he is a middle Republican and believes some of the things Democrats do {as do I}. I don't think McCain and Giuliani will join together, but it would be big if they did. That's a powerful combination of Republican power.

Also it's going to come down to who the Democrats choose. The Democrats should probably avoid limiting the ticket to a black guy or a white woman. I know they may be progressive but they got lucky with Pelosi. We're not going to vote for a black man or white woman in the next 5 years. That's what I think.

We've been discussing this in my poli sci classes and it's really going to come down to character and facial difference, not necessarily on the issues. I don't think American's are ready for a woman president, and I think the election is going to come down to New York. Granted we're mostly liberal if Giuliani runs it will be a fight between the ex-Mayor and our Senator. I really don't even want to think about the 08 election until primary season. It's almost pointless right now. We still have 2 more years of our good ol' lame duck to enjoy =]
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
January 28 2007 06:07 GMT
#140
On January 27 2007 17:31 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2007 20:24 pr0n wrote:
On January 26 2007 17:57 HAZE.tQ wrote:
Someone re-ban pr0n please. He's a fucking Rtard.


I'm sorry that i disagree with you. Clearly you are the only person on this forum entitled to an opinion.

EDIT: Actually if you want me to counter your point, I'm probably in the top 5% of the forum for intelligence, and top 1% for education. And yes, I have the test scores and degrees to back that up. But that doesn't matter. What matters is you didn't even counter any of my points; you just ask me to be banned for being right.


~_~ My test scores > your test scores. Wanna bet?



you just got served by a guy who can't search his nickname

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ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
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