What is Games Done Quick? Games Done Quick is a bi-annual charity gaming marathon. Volunteers play games at incredible speed ("Speedrunning") for entertainment. The event is streamed live online, non-stop, and all donations go directly to the charity (Doctors Without Borders this time). This is the summer event, with a winter event starting every January.
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I was waiting for this thread to be created. I hate how this is coinciding with DOTA 2 TI5 wild card and group stage this week, really sucks but I guess the scheduling and booking of facilities was unavoidable. Hopefully I can try to watch SGDQ and at least one game of TI5 as much as I can
And is it me or does AGDQ and SGDQ year after year look bigger and bigger in terms of live audience?
On July 27 2015 02:37 sacrilegious wrote: I was waiting for this thread to be created. I hate how this is coinciding with DOTA 2 TI5 wild card and group stage this week, really sucks but I guess the scheduling and booking of facilities was unavoidable. Hopefully I can try to watch SGDQ and at least one game of TI5 as much as I can
And is it me or does AGDQ and SGDQ year after year look bigger and bigger in terms of live audience?
Yes this despite being SGDQ, is the biggest event in GDQ history.
pretty standard hyperactive nerd youth of today someone in youtube comments said twitch banned him, seems a bit callous wtf might have banned him coz someone said he was restreaming the official stream tho
The early parts of the run really set the pace for the twilight princess. The runner got really down on himself early which didn't help when he missed some things later.
Also looks like he came in last minute to replace the original runner who couldn't make it. All in all, I think the run is going decently, but circumstances are working against him
It was a little sad to see the races being that lopsided because he was simply so much better but even so Tetris was once again a joy to see. I cant even imagine being that fast.
On July 29 2015 00:16 Faruko wrote: So people run Mario Kart 64 and games like TRAG
but nobody runs Contra... like really ?
They can't have every game played in every event unfortunately. They want variety and they need a quality runner available in the timeframe of the event. Seems like Contra was omitted in this iteration but it was played as a race six months ago during AGDQ 2015.
So the crash 2 runner was completely thrown out of the event? A bit over the top in my opinion... should have just banned him from performing at gdq again...
On July 29 2015 01:31 TheNewEra wrote: So the crash 2 runner was completely thrown out of the event? A bit over the top in my opinion... should have just banned him from performing at gdq again...
He... talked about killing himself and everyone else, praised Hitler or something as well, dunno I didn't stick around completely. First ten seconds was : IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF DONT TRY THIS AT HOME. He then proceeded to repeat it like 10 times in 5 minutes. That was the time I decide okay then, nope.
Didn't even finish his run, then said he was going to kill everyone in the room he was in. Yea. People were like "wah wah just a joke." There are things you don't joke about you sods.
On July 29 2015 02:28 Reaper9 wrote: He... talked about killing himself and everyone else, praised Hitler or something as well, dunno I didn't stick around completely. First ten seconds was : IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF DONT TRY THIS AT HOME. He then proceeded to repeat it like 10 times in 5 minutes. That was the time I decide okay then, nope.
Didn't even finish his run, then said he was going to kill everyone in the room he was in. Yea. People were like "wah wah just a joke." There are things you don't joke about you sods.
On July 29 2015 02:28 Reaper9 wrote: He... talked about killing himself and everyone else, praised Hitler or something as well, dunno I didn't stick around completely. First ten seconds was : IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF DONT TRY THIS AT HOME. He then proceeded to repeat it like 10 times in 5 minutes. That was the time I decide okay then, nope.
Didn't even finish his run, then said he was going to kill everyone in the room he was in. Yea. People were like "wah wah just a joke." There are things you don't joke about you sods.
Rofl wow. I hope they include this in the VOD :o
he was talking like an overactive highschool/college nerd, making dumb noises and saying cringey stuff that was pretty unfunny and out of place in the more mature, laid back environment . one of his couch buddies said "calm down dude" at the end to put it in perspective
you can joke about whatever you want. if you're not funny (or worse still annoying) then eventually someone will tell you. banning him from the event based on some cringey nerdy college humour during his own run is a shit-tier decision
On July 29 2015 13:27 Die4Ever wrote: I've been planning on playing Ori and the Blind Forest. Will I get spoiled at all if I watch the speedrun? Cause I wanna watch that tonight lol.
The speedrun is broken. You may be spoiled slightly but its very different to normal gameplay at this point
On July 29 2015 02:28 Reaper9 wrote: He... talked about killing himself and everyone else, praised Hitler or something as well, dunno I didn't stick around completely. First ten seconds was : IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF DONT TRY THIS AT HOME. He then proceeded to repeat it like 10 times in 5 minutes. That was the time I decide okay then, nope.
Didn't even finish his run, then said he was going to kill everyone in the room he was in. Yea. People were like "wah wah just a joke." There are things you don't joke about you sods.
He didn't say anything about Hitler ROFL, you probably saw that on a YouTube comment. The suicide stuff I don't think anyone really cared about because his speed runs included a ton of suicides and he was joking about that. Suicide is a serious issue, but given the context, I haven't seen anyone really complain about that.
What he did say, is "One day I'm gonna become a psychopath and kill everyone." Obviously that's a HUGE no-no. This was in addition to just doing cringeworthy stuff in general the entire run like FFGenerations pointed out. In a way, I feel bad for the guy, as apparently he's a pretty chill guy on his stream and was very nervous and trying to force the humor. I understand that.. but man, there's a certain line you don't cross and he crossed it.
I don't have any issues with removing him from the event; if I were there I'd probably be one of the people heavily supporting it. I do feel bad for the guy because of how everyone in the Internet is piling on him. He messed up and I guarantee he knows it, if he has serious issues then I hope he seeks help, and if he's just an awkward guy with dark humor then I hope he matures a bit and doesn't let this get him down too much. We all do really dumb stuff (I can think of a million dumb things I've done in the past day!), fortunately for us, our dumb stuff usually isn't streamed to 200K viewers.
I feel for him. all four of my games I speedrun feature death abuse / self harm to the point where the communities have made suicide jokes a number of times, Fairly sure the FF9 run at AGDQ 2013 had one I believe. He did cross the line with the psychopath line though and its rather frustrating knowing he got 2 games in and all this happened when a lot of good runs didn't get in which is probably going to make it harder for "unknowns" to get into future GDQS
On July 29 2015 02:28 Reaper9 wrote: He... talked about killing himself and everyone else, praised Hitler or something as well, dunno I didn't stick around completely. First ten seconds was : IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF DONT TRY THIS AT HOME. He then proceeded to repeat it like 10 times in 5 minutes. That was the time I decide okay then, nope.
Didn't even finish his run, then said he was going to kill everyone in the room he was in. Yea. People were like "wah wah just a joke." There are things you don't joke about you sods.
He didn't say anything about Hitler ROFL, you probably saw that on a YouTube comment. The suicide stuff I don't think anyone really cared about because his speed runs included a ton of suicides and he was joking about that. Suicide is a serious issue, but given the context, I haven't seen anyone really complain about that.
What he did say, is "One day I'm gonna become a psychopath and kill everyone." Obviously that's a HUGE no-no. This was in addition to just doing cringeworthy stuff in general the entire run like FFGenerations pointed out. In a way, I feel bad for the guy, as apparently he's a pretty chill guy on his stream and was very nervous and trying to force the humor. I understand that.. but man, there's a certain line you don't cross and he crossed it.
I don't have any issues with removing him from the event; if I were there I'd probably be one of the people heavily supporting it. I do feel bad for the guy because of how everyone in the Internet is piling on him. He messed up and I guarantee he knows it, if he has serious issues then I hope he seeks help, and if he's just an awkward guy with dark humor then I hope he matures a bit and doesn't let this get him down too much. We all do really dumb stuff (I can think of a million dumb things I've done in the past day!), fortunately for us, our dumb stuff usually isn't streamed to 200K viewers.
Ah, my apologies for spreading false info then. Given I did leave early.
Freedom Planet looks really good and fun. But i cant stand the voice of the guy in the red shirt. For-some-reason-it-reminds-me-of-a-robot-with-his-emotionless-voice. :/
On July 30 2015 11:36 Faruko wrote: "how did you get another bomb"
"I dont know, im so lucky"
hahaha
"now he's gonna try to use defense down on me, but it's not gonna work" lol, crazy he can memorize all this stuff, and counting the "useless" menu inputs to control the rng too
On July 30 2015 11:36 Faruko wrote: "how did you get another bomb"
"I dont know, im so lucky"
hahaha
"now he's gonna try to use defense down on me, but it's not gonna work" lol, crazy he can memorize all this stuff, and counting the "useless" menu inputs to control the rng too
On July 30 2015 11:50 Drazerk wrote: If you guys think this RNG manipulation is high you should watch Teamliquid's very own Plexa run Golden Sun. The RNG manip in that game is amazing
On July 30 2015 11:50 Drazerk wrote: If you guys think this RNG manipulation is high you should watch Teamliquid's very own Plexa run Golden Sun. The RNG manip in that game is amazing
On July 30 2015 11:50 Drazerk wrote: If you guys think this RNG manipulation is high you should watch Teamliquid's very own Plexa run Golden Sun. The RNG manip in that game is amazing
On July 30 2015 11:50 Drazerk wrote: If you guys think this RNG manipulation is high you should watch Teamliquid's very own Plexa run Golden Sun. The RNG manip in that game is amazing
I didn't know Plexa did speedruns lol
he does for golden sun, just try mentioning the game on ask TL staff anything thread, he'll jump right at it.
On July 30 2015 11:50 Drazerk wrote: If you guys think this RNG manipulation is high you should watch Teamliquid's very own Plexa run Golden Sun. The RNG manip in that game is amazing
On July 30 2015 11:50 Drazerk wrote: If you guys think this RNG manipulation is high you should watch Teamliquid's very own Plexa run Golden Sun. The RNG manip in that game is amazing
I didn't know Plexa did speedruns lol
He had the WR for a bit in GS I think.
Yup TL has lots of speedrunners. Pretty sure Freezard has all the IL WRs in WC3 / BW still. Not to mention Canecraft with Keen 4 / Raelcun with Legend of Dragoon / SC2 Flicky does pretty much everything as well
I also have WR in 2 KH games and held WR in another for a while
My next big game to watch will be unreal roughly 5h30 hours from now. Who am I kidding, am already turning up the stream ^^. It's the first time I'm watching this but so far, these past few days, looks really fun and a very entertaining stream for a good cause
is she playing Oregon Trail on an actual old computer? I can see the monitor a little lol. Is there anything different about emulating it? Oh I guess she had to just flip the disk lol so there's that...
On July 30 2015 21:45 fruity. wrote: Great to see them doing a summer event, the one in Jan / Feb was always a highlight for me. Shame no SC2, though I guess hardly a speed running game.
They have a winter and summer event every year. They've done SC2 before and it's pretty cool actually.
On July 30 2015 21:45 fruity. wrote: Great to see them doing a summer event, the one in Jan / Feb was always a highlight for me. Shame no SC2, though I guess hardly a speed running game.
They have a winter and summer event every year. They've done SC2 before and it's pretty cool actually.
Yes, I saw one maybe 2 years ago, I'd be all for it, but for many the RTS genre etc etc
Edit: Really? I always thought there was only ever the winter one? And this summer one was a new introduction. Guess I dont pay enough attention.
On July 30 2015 21:45 fruity. wrote: Great to see them doing a summer event, the one in Jan / Feb was always a highlight for me. Shame no SC2, though I guess hardly a speed running game.
They have a winter and summer event every year. They've done SC2 before and it's pretty cool actually.
Yes, I saw one maybe 2 years ago, I'd be all for it, but for many the RTS genre etc etc
Edit: Really? I always thought there was only ever the winter one? And this summer one was a new introduction. Guess I dont pay enough attention.
On July 31 2015 02:39 Ej_ wrote: ugh the constant USB device disconnects during the Quantum Conundrum run are kind of tipping me off...
That run was a hoot. Often a lot of time you know there's tricky moves happening, but don't really see them, that part where he was jumping about on the box/safe whilst triggering switches mid air was great.
Shame I missed the F.E.A.R. run, guess I'll watch it on youtube later. It's cool others have love for that game. I played the game a lot back in the day; the singleplayer and multiplayer were both well made. I even played it competitively for a while. It is definitely unfortunate it's the only good one in the series.
Is Halo 3 the game where they use a snipe / zoom trick to travel a great distance quickly? Never played Halo myself (any of them) But I recall seeing it last year, in a co-op with 2 guys. Am wondering if it was Halo 3 as it's up next, and would be willing to stay up for if that's the case.
So many of the upcoming runs I want to see like Banjo Tooie ,Dk64, Super Mario Sunshine, Luigis Mansion, Pokemon Blue, Blue blindfolded are at such bad times (for a German)
I hope they brighter Doom 64 lol, don't feel like turning up the brightness on my TV and then turn it back down again later... edit: well it looks fine
I guess he means why nothing but Sc2 appears in the live stream sidebar (atleast for me) since the TL downtime. Was searching for the gamesdonequick stream a long time here on TL afterwards but had to eventually start it over twitch
I guess he means why nothing but Sc2 appears in the live stream sidebar (atleast for me) since the TL downtime. Was searching for the gamesdonequick stream a long time here on TL afterwards but had to eventually start it over twitch
yea this. it says next event is in 19.5 hours, but gdq is on right now
On August 01 2015 14:35 Die4Ever wrote: This run makes me want to program something that doesn't have buffer/integer overflow/underflow bugs lol.
Funny thing is, it was more stable, then they freed up a large amount of space, which some guy filled with mew.
I guess they removed a few bounds checks on the inventory to free up space? How many KB is the cart? Cause I can't imagine that itself saving more than like 100 bytes lol. Or just do the bound check on listing the inventory in the menu, that's the only place that really needs it, and it's an 8 bit system? So maybe 5-10 bytes. Just thinking about it now, they could've avoided all these exploits even without the bounds checks if they just made the inventory be the last thing in memory. Not a big deal considering it's tough to figure out and pull off even knowing about it, just interesting to think about.
On August 01 2015 14:35 Die4Ever wrote: This run makes me want to program something that doesn't have buffer/integer overflow/underflow bugs lol.
Funny thing is, it was more stable, then they freed up a large amount of space, which some guy filled with mew.
I guess they removed a few bounds checks on the inventory to free up space? How many KB is the cart? Cause I can't imagine that itself saving more than like 100 bytes lol. Or just do the bound check on listing the inventory in the menu, that's the only place that really needs it, and it's an 8 bit system? So maybe 5-10 bytes. Just thinking about it now, they could've avoided all these exploits even without the bounds checks if they just made the inventory be the last thing in memory. Not a big deal considering it's tough to figure out and pull off even knowing about it, just interesting to think about.
I did some digging, it appears that mew filled the space that debugging tools had previously occupied. Edit: the game is also almost 20 years old, people didn't know as much then as they do now, that might be part of it as well.
On August 01 2015 15:52 Die4Ever wrote: "I think I just failed to nickname the bulbasaur", got a charmander lol oh wait wrong dialog lol, been a while since I've played pokemon
This might make me laugh hard enough to fall asleep somehow.
Dang the chat for this GDQ seems awful compared to usual. It's literally just making fun of everything. I remember in previous years it was hype as shit. Surprised they're so negative towards pokemon puzzle league. Puzzle speedruns are incredible to watch imo
On August 01 2015 17:41 RagequitBM wrote: Dang the chat for this GDQ seems awful compared to usual. It's literally just making fun of everything. I remember in previous years it was hype as shit. Surprised they're so negative towards pokemon puzzle league. Puzzle speedruns are incredible to watch imo
Its just too large at this point and needs to go sub mode only (Which would probably drive more donations). But people bitch on SDA Forums so its never gonna happen even though we have 3-4 poverty chats AND the IRC chat we can use to chat about SGDQ so there is zero reason as to why the GDQ twitch chat isn't sub mode only
On August 01 2015 17:41 RagequitBM wrote: Dang the chat for this GDQ seems awful compared to usual. It's literally just making fun of everything. I remember in previous years it was hype as shit. Surprised they're so negative towards pokemon puzzle league. Puzzle speedruns are incredible to watch imo
Its just too large at this point and needs to go sub mode only (Which would probably drive more donations). But people bitch on SDA Forums so its never gonna happen even though we have 3-4 poverty chats AND the IRC chat we can use to chat about SGDQ so there is zero reason as to why the GDQ twitch chat isn't sub mode only
Maybe it's just a tough call since there was a slight "fiasco" where there was a donation incentive (or something along those lines) for there to be sub mode only. Oh wait, I think it was sub mode only, and there was a donation incentive to free the chat for one hour per $1k donated to it (think it reached over 10k?). Yada yada yada, it wasn't followed through properly, riots ensue, then the organizer stated that it wasn't an authorized incentive, free chat ever since?
Somebody please correct me. Haha. I haven't had much sleep.
On August 01 2015 18:40 Heartland wrote: what's the origin of the save/kill the animals thing?
At the end of super Metroid there is a room you can go into and release these animals that are trapped it's out of the way for a speed run but people were showing it off and it eventually became this big thing where people would donate if someone would save or leave the animals to die on Zebes
On August 01 2015 18:40 Heartland wrote: what's the origin of the save/kill the animals thing?
At the end of super Metroid there is a room you can go into and release these animals that are trapped it's out of the way for a speed run but people were showing it off and it eventually became this big thing where people would donate if someone would save or leave the animals to die on Zebes
On August 01 2015 18:40 Heartland wrote: what's the origin of the save/kill the animals thing?
At the end of super Metroid there is a room you can go into and release these animals that are trapped it's out of the way for a speed run but people were showing it off and it eventually became this big thing where people would donate if someone would save or leave the animals to die on Zebes
Thanks!
There is actually a "bid war"...the side that gets more donations gets to determine the faith of the "animals". I'm not exactly sure how it is now, but last night the announcer said it was pretty even (IIRC).
how do they even find out about these elaborate clips and things like chest storage etc? especially in a long game like windwaker, got to be a lot of work. Although they probably understand the engine and the way devs create rooms and set up rules and go from there but it's still amazing
On August 01 2015 20:52 2stra wrote: how do they even find out about these elaborate clips and things like chest storage etc? especially in a long game like windwaker, got to be a lot of work. Although they probably understand the engine and the way devs create rooms and set up rules and go from there but it's still amazing
Basically we knew about wet storage which was actually a much more interesting route and more impressive IMO From wet storage we found dry storage From Dry storage we found chest storage From chest storage we found lots of out of bound clips The rest is just finding more and more out of bound clips. Once you know what you are looking for its really not hard to find
On August 01 2015 20:52 2stra wrote: how do they even find out about these elaborate clips and things like chest storage etc? especially in a long game like windwaker, got to be a lot of work. Although they probably understand the engine and the way devs create rooms and set up rules and go from there but it's still amazing
Basically we knew about wet storage which was actually a much more interesting route and more impressive IMO From wet storage we found dry storage From Dry storage we found chest storage From chest storage we found lots of out of bound clips The rest is just finding more and more out of bound clips. Once you know what you are looking for its really not hard to find
So is this game close to being optimized? Or are there "infinite" ways of speeding up the run?
On August 01 2015 20:52 2stra wrote: how do they even find out about these elaborate clips and things like chest storage etc? especially in a long game like windwaker, got to be a lot of work. Although they probably understand the engine and the way devs create rooms and set up rules and go from there but it's still amazing
Basically we knew about wet storage which was actually a much more interesting route and more impressive IMO From wet storage we found dry storage From Dry storage we found chest storage From chest storage we found lots of out of bound clips The rest is just finding more and more out of bound clips. Once you know what you are looking for its really not hard to find
So is this game close to being optimized? Or are there "infinite" ways of speeding up the run?
In theory no game other than Super Mario bros and Barney's Hide and Seek adventure is truly optimized (I'm probably missing another game or two that are as fast as a TAS). But this game is still somewhat far from being perfected in my opinion. Games this broken tend to end up more broken so who knows what the route will look like next year
On August 01 2015 20:52 2stra wrote: how do they even find out about these elaborate clips and things like chest storage etc? especially in a long game like windwaker, got to be a lot of work. Although they probably understand the engine and the way devs create rooms and set up rules and go from there but it's still amazing
Basically we knew about wet storage which was actually a much more interesting route and more impressive IMO From wet storage we found dry storage From Dry storage we found chest storage From chest storage we found lots of out of bound clips The rest is just finding more and more out of bound clips. Once you know what you are looking for its really not hard to find
So is this game close to being optimized? Or are there "infinite" ways of speeding up the run?
In theory no game other than Super Mario bros and Barney's Hide and Seek adventure is truly optimized (I'm probably missing another game or two that are as fast as a TAS). But this game is still somewhat far from being perfected in my opinion. Games this broken tend to end up more broken so who knows what the route will look like next year
I saw Skater streaming WW the other day, if someone can break it even furher - it's him. Sub 4h might happen soon?
On August 01 2015 21:52 Roggay wrote: A bit unfortunate that they scheduled WW at such an empty period of time. But I guess it makes sense for a 4hour run.
A lot of good runs have been at terrible time slots and a lot of the good time slots have had some awful runs. Basically only so many hours in a day and WW has had its spotlight before so it doesn't need to have a good time slot at this point
On August 01 2015 21:52 Roggay wrote: A bit unfortunate that they scheduled WW at such an empty period of time. But I guess it makes sense for a 4hour run.
A lot of good runs have been at terrible time slots and a lot of the good time slots have had some awful runs. Basically only so many hours in a day and WW has had its spotlight before so it doesn't need to have a good time slot at this point
Yea that was what I was thinking too. Also the fact that SGDQ is more about lesser known games.
On August 01 2015 21:52 Roggay wrote: A bit unfortunate that they scheduled WW at such an empty period of time. But I guess it makes sense for a 4hour run.
A lot of good runs have been at terrible time slots and a lot of the good time slots have had some awful runs. Basically only so many hours in a day and WW has had its spotlight before so it doesn't need to have a good time slot at this point
I agree, Zelda in prime time at every GDQ event was starting to bore me (also I'm partial in that I don't enjoy zelda runs :D)
On August 01 2015 20:52 2stra wrote: how do they even find out about these elaborate clips and things like chest storage etc? especially in a long game like windwaker, got to be a lot of work. Although they probably understand the engine and the way devs create rooms and set up rules and go from there but it's still amazing
Basically we knew about wet storage which was actually a much more interesting route and more impressive IMO From wet storage we found dry storage From Dry storage we found chest storage From chest storage we found lots of out of bound clips The rest is just finding more and more out of bound clips. Once you know what you are looking for its really not hard to find
So is this game close to being optimized? Or are there "infinite" ways of speeding up the run?
In theory no game other than Super Mario bros and Barney's Hide and Seek adventure is truly optimized (I'm probably missing another game or two that are as fast as a TAS). But this game is still somewhat far from being perfected in my opinion. Games this broken tend to end up more broken so who knows what the route will look like next year
I believe the true any% for A Link to the past is getting super close to optimized, right now it takes just over a minute and a half.
On August 01 2015 20:52 2stra wrote: how do they even find out about these elaborate clips and things like chest storage etc? especially in a long game like windwaker, got to be a lot of work. Although they probably understand the engine and the way devs create rooms and set up rules and go from there but it's still amazing
Basically we knew about wet storage which was actually a much more interesting route and more impressive IMO From wet storage we found dry storage From Dry storage we found chest storage From chest storage we found lots of out of bound clips The rest is just finding more and more out of bound clips. Once you know what you are looking for its really not hard to find
So is this game close to being optimized? Or are there "infinite" ways of speeding up the run?
In theory no game other than Super Mario bros and Barney's Hide and Seek adventure is truly optimized (I'm probably missing another game or two that are as fast as a TAS). But this game is still somewhat far from being perfected in my opinion. Games this broken tend to end up more broken so who knows what the route will look like next year
I believe the true any% for A Link to the past is getting super close to optimized, right now it takes just over a minute and a half.
At least they're going for the longer route tonight..
On August 01 2015 17:41 RagequitBM wrote: Dang the chat for this GDQ seems awful compared to usual. It's literally just making fun of everything. I remember in previous years it was hype as shit. Surprised they're so negative towards pokemon puzzle league. Puzzle speedruns are incredible to watch imo
Its just too large at this point and needs to go sub mode only (Which would probably drive more donations). But people bitch on SDA Forums so its never gonna happen even though we have 3-4 poverty chats AND the IRC chat we can use to chat about SGDQ so there is zero reason as to why the GDQ twitch chat isn't sub mode only
Yeah I guess you're right, it's just sad what the memelords have done to twitch. Chat was my favorite part of twitch for the last few years, the copy pasta being fresh, and the hype being real; but this year especially it feels like the memes are too dank for mere mortals, ruining the chat.
One player controls the left side of the controller (thumb stick and arrow keys, plus L1, L2), the other player controls the right side (thumb stick and the triangle, square circle and X keys, plus R1, R2).
Even though I don't like dark souls 2, this is a very impressive run, I recommend people to watch it!
On August 02 2015 02:33 solidbebe wrote: Don't fool yourself, large twitch chats have always been shit.
Actually, no. Large twitch chats used to be hilarious as hell other than a select few. That was 90% of the whole fun of previous GDQs, people just started taking it too far now.
On that same point, my favorite run so far is the DK64 run. Pretending to be messing up, and having the chat shit all over him, just to make everyone look like bums.
What a DS2 run! Soul Game runs are impressive enough usually (at least for me) but getting the timing on attacking&dodging the bosses ect. while sharing control is insane
I don't like these sorts of runs that just glitch their way through everything. OK there's knowledge and skill there to utilise, but it's still, meh, uninteresting. (edit: mega man run)
On August 02 2015 04:24 fruity. wrote: I don't like these sorts of runs that just glitch their way through everything. OK there's knowledge and skill there to utilise, but it's still, meh, uninteresting. (edit: mega man run)
Agreed. I know it's not really clear, but for me this feels as one step to far. Just not really as fun to watch, especialy after that great Dark Souls 2 run.
On August 02 2015 05:39 Alventenie wrote: He was requested to change them because the files names before were not something that should have been on stream.
oh lol, thanks this game gives so much nostalgia lol
On August 02 2015 07:40 fruity. wrote: "Top 3 Mario64 speed runners" - where's siglemic? Or doesn't he run any more?
I heard he doesn't run anymore because it takes up to much time. And I think these three are the current runners with the top 3 PB'S. Not sure if the record still stands (didn't keep up with SM 120 the last 2 months) but I think Cheese is the world record holder.
On August 02 2015 07:40 fruity. wrote: "Top 3 Mario64 speed runners" - where's siglemic? Or doesn't he run any more?
I heard he doesn't run anymore because it takes up to much time. And I think these three are the current runners with the top 3 PB'S. Not sure if the record still stands (didn't keep up with SM 120 the last 2 months) but I think Cheese is the world record holder.
Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
On August 02 2015 09:40 Die4Ever wrote: $1.5 mil? looks very unlikely
Agdq 2015 had less donation money than this sgdq so far. The 1,5 Million included Humble bumble money for example. Not sure if they have something like this currently. If yes it's possible to top Agdq2015
On August 02 2015 09:40 Die4Ever wrote: $1.5 mil? looks very unlikely
Agdq 2015 had less donation money than this sgdq so far. The 1,5 Million included Humble bumble money for example. Not sure if they have something like this currently. If yes it's possible to top Agdq2015
ah right, the other things added in at the end, they might do it!
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote: Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47
From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote: Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47
From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.
Yeah... Save/Kill brings in a fuck ton of money, no question.
Edit: I'd guess that the only thing people pull for harder are bonus games/runs, because that's content. Save/Kill is easily JUST second to stuff like that and it's entirely "cosmetic."
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote: Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47
From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.
A lot of that comes down to runner's choice / The Yette etc and a lot of people argue that the money would be donated anyway but to other donation incentives. Save / Kill is just the general "I don't know where to put the money" dump. It probably brings in some money but it certainly doesn't bring in 300k
Super Metroid is also kind of the speedrunning game. It's really the first game where people got together to find movement tricks, optimized routing, etc. all just to get the in-game clock down as low as possible, and is still one of the few old favourites that doesn't having clipping/out-of-bounds or wrong warps.
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote: Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47
From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.
A lot of that comes down to runner's choice / The Yette etc and a lot of people argue that the money would be donated anyway but to other donation incentives. Save / Kill is just the general "I don't know where to put the money" dump. It probably brings in some money but it certainly doesn't bring in 300k
People are arguing about this? o.o
Well, I mean, I would think there would just be more "runner's choice, put wherever" donations without bid wars. It's part of the fun to take a side. Plus, unlike a lot of other bid wars (name choice), it does impact the speedrun time. I don't know, I never heard people speak about it like it's an issue before. Haha.
Edit: Only other post I made in this thread was a possible "answer" to your question on why the chat isn't sub only. Guess you just know how to get my attention. lol
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote: Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47
From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.
A lot of that comes down to runner's choice / The Yette etc and a lot of people argue that the money would be donated anyway but to other donation incentives. Save / Kill is just the general "I don't know where to put the money" dump. It probably brings in some money but it certainly doesn't bring in 300k
People are arguing about this? o.o
Well, I mean, I would think there would just be more "runner's choice, put wherever" donations without bid wars. It's part of the fun to take a side. Plus, unlike a lot of other bid wars (name choice), it does impact the speedrun time. I don't know, I never heard people speak about it like it's an issue before. Haha.
Edit: Only other post I made in this thread was a possible "answer" to your question on why the chat isn't sub only. Guess you just know how to get my attention. lol
Haha i've just watched so many GDQs and been around long enough that i've gotten tired of a lot of the staples in a GDQ and would rather they take a break from them and I know a lot of speedrunners share my opinion that a lot of the big marathon staples kind of need to take a break at this point (Hell anything sony was lacking for a pretty long time). Its very much a speedrunner complaint than a general viewer complaint.
I mean name choices do effect the speedrun time in a lot of games. Hell it effects pokemon a lot more than it does Metroid and yet there isn't the huge hype around the dead frames there (plus in cannon the animals survive no matter what you do so you don't even need to physically save them to save them)
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote: Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47
From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.
A lot of that comes down to runner's choice / The Yette etc and a lot of people argue that the money would be donated anyway but to other donation incentives. Save / Kill is just the general "I don't know where to put the money" dump. It probably brings in some money but it certainly doesn't bring in 300k
The Yetee and runners choice can choose any bid they want, and a lot of them don't choose that specifically. Yetee donated to multiple target bids, including getting us the Oblivion any% as the regular run was ending.
All of the target bids have been met and people are putting their donations to a bid war they enjoy.
I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever. Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less. Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.
On August 02 2015 10:20 Uldridge wrote: I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever. Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less. Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.
Oh no i have no issue with the donation incentive I actually enjoy it. I am just sad that super metroid will always be in a GDQ because the donation incentive is a popular GDQ meme
On August 02 2015 10:20 Uldridge wrote: I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever. Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less. Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.
Oh no i have no issue with the donation incentive I actually enjoy it. I am just sad that super metroid will always be in a GDQ because the donation incentive is a popular GDQ meme
Super Metroid's always going to be in GDQ because it's the most optimized, entirely skill based speedruns around.
Sure, there's a place for newer or less known games that have small communities, but those games also have records that are being cut down by dozens of minutes or even hours by the next event, and you definitely need the runs that are broken down to sciences.
On August 02 2015 10:20 Uldridge wrote: I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever. Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less. Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.
Oh no i have no issue with the donation incentive I actually enjoy it. I am just sad that super metroid will always be in a GDQ because the donation incentive is a popular GDQ meme
Super Metroid's always going to be in GDQ because it's the most optimized, entirely skill based speedruns around.
Sure, there's a place for newer or less known games that have small communities, but those games also have records that are being cut down by dozens of minutes or even hours by the next event, and you definitely need the runs that are broken down to sciences.
The same can be said for super mario world / Super mario Bros / Link to the past / Fzero etc etc the list goes on. There is a huge amount of games that are actually down to a science and none of them are nearly as risky / painful to run as metroid because for the past 2 GDQs we've had to watch someone be unable to finish a run which honestly just makes it depressing to watch.
Hey man speak for yourself. Super Metroid is one of my favorite runs every GDQ and I hope it keeps showing up. Sometimes a player dies because the run is tough, really well routed and has a lot of execution.
On August 02 2015 10:20 Uldridge wrote: I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever. Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less. Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.
Oh no i have no issue with the donation incentive I actually enjoy it. I am just sad that super metroid will always be in a GDQ because the donation incentive is a popular GDQ meme
Super Metroid's always going to be in GDQ because it's the most optimized, entirely skill based speedruns around.
Sure, there's a place for newer or less known games that have small communities, but those games also have records that are being cut down by dozens of minutes or even hours by the next event, and you definitely need the runs that are broken down to sciences.
The same can be said for super mario world / Super mario Bros / Link to the past / Fzero etc etc the list goes on. There is a huge amount of games that are actually down to a science and none of them are nearly as risky / painful to run as metroid because for the past 2 GDQs we've had to watch someone be unable to finish a run which honestly just makes it depressing to watch.
Mario games also have like a quarter of the routing, and Fzero is even more linear. Link to the Past is always run, so that's a rather pointless discussion.
Honestly, there's nothing stopping Metroid runners from doing safety saves (Fusion 1% runners do it), but they choose not to because it's a race.
On August 02 2015 10:20 Uldridge wrote: I don't know man, I mean, it's speedrunning marathon for a good cause, I don't think it should be absolutely the most important thing to get the fastest time ever. Firstly, they're put "before" 100+k people, some are very nervous Secondly, people might donate more the more entertaining the run is people are watching. If you have an obnoxious as hell person needing serious time the entire run because he'll try to get his WR, I might enjoy it less. Trihex and PJ runs are my favourites simply because they make it seem so relaxed, they're not anxious about anything and they joke around alot.
Oh no i have no issue with the donation incentive I actually enjoy it. I am just sad that super metroid will always be in a GDQ because the donation incentive is a popular GDQ meme
Super Metroid's always going to be in GDQ because it's the most optimized, entirely skill based speedruns around.
Sure, there's a place for newer or less known games that have small communities, but those games also have records that are being cut down by dozens of minutes or even hours by the next event, and you definitely need the runs that are broken down to sciences.
The same can be said for super mario world / Super mario Bros / Link to the past / Fzero etc etc the list goes on. There is a huge amount of games that are actually down to a science and none of them are nearly as risky / painful to run as metroid because for the past 2 GDQs we've had to watch someone be unable to finish a run which honestly just makes it depressing to watch.
Mario games also have like a quarter of the routing, and Fzero is even more linear. Link to the Past is always run, so that's a rather pointless discussion.
Honestly, there's nothing stopping Metroid runners from doing safety saves (Fusion 1% runners do it), but they choose not to because it's a race.
Exactly and it makes the race bad because 2/4 die so it stops being a race and instead is just a bad run. If they played it much safer then sure but then you're taking the speed hit and people would complain the other way. Fzero also has more speed tech which Metroid doesn't have which makes it much more interesting IMO. But this is coming down to personal taste (I speedrun JRPGs which most people hate so yeah) so its a silly argument.
On August 02 2015 09:27 Drazerk wrote: Super metroid isn't my cup of tea but it is surprising they include such a marathon unsafe game every year just because of that one donation bid war (Which i'm fairly certain doesn't bring in nearly as much money as people think it does)
Save or Kill the animals Super Metroid The classic. $303,349.47
From their bid index; so it almost brought in 1/3'rd of all the money. I think that's quite alot.
A lot of that comes down to runner's choice / The Yette etc and a lot of people argue that the money would be donated anyway but to other donation incentives. Save / Kill is just the general "I don't know where to put the money" dump. It probably brings in some money but it certainly doesn't bring in 300k
People are arguing about this? o.o
Well, I mean, I would think there would just be more "runner's choice, put wherever" donations without bid wars. It's part of the fun to take a side. Plus, unlike a lot of other bid wars (name choice), it does impact the speedrun time. I don't know, I never heard people speak about it like it's an issue before. Haha.
Edit: Only other post I made in this thread was a possible "answer" to your question on why the chat isn't sub only. Guess you just know how to get my attention. lol
Haha i've just watched so many GDQs and been around long enough that i've gotten tired of a lot of the staples in a GDQ and would rather they take a break from them and I know a lot of speedrunners share my opinion that a lot of the big marathon staples kind of need to take a break at this point (Hell anything sony was lacking for a pretty long time). Its very much a speedrunner complaint than a general viewer complaint.
I mean name choices do effect the speedrun time in a lot of games. Hell it effects pokemon a lot more than it does Metroid and yet there isn't the huge hype around the dead frames there (plus in cannon the animals survive no matter what you do so you don't even need to physically save them to save them)
Ah, now I see where you're coming from. And I feel like I've seen enough Werster to be able to remember how much naming affects Pok'emon, but it completely slipped my mind. Haha.
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote: Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.
yea I think this is gonna go on the 2nd monitor and I'll find something to program lol
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote: Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.
yea I think this is gonna go on the 2nd monitor and I'll find something to program lol
It's fun, I just watch for 20 mins then leave it muted and focus on something else... come in and out. They are doing a good job explaining stuff which keeps it interesting.
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote: Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.
you never played chrono trigger ? like really :o ?
On August 02 2015 12:46 TheNewEra wrote: Never played the game and can't bring myself to watch the whole thing. Looks no fun to me . The commentary on the other hand is great though.
yea I think this is gonna go on the 2nd monitor and I'll find something to program lol
It's fun, I just watch for 20 mins then leave it muted and focus on something else... come in and out. They are doing a good job explaining stuff which keeps it interesting.
kind of the issue with JRPG runs as it very much relies on people knowing them. But it also means people aren't missing out on much for the end of GDQ so people at the event can say their goodbyes and people who'd miss it (Like most of Europe) aren't going to miss something amazing.
Damn that Chrono Trigger ending music always gets me dudes... Glad to see a good amount donated this year. Been watching for years and this event is growing so much it will be a full blown speed running convention in a couple years.
Wow such a short outro. Not complaining or anything but i remember Mike's AGDQ 2014 outro (er, or whichever one was the one where they broke a million for the first time) being like 15 minutes of him thanking just about every conceivable person that had anything remotely connected by umpteen degrees of separation to the event. Caterers, rehosts, chat mods, I don't think there wasn't a person involved the man didn't try to fit in there lol.
That said the event was very well run IMO and went very smooth. The few times I slept this week I always came back to find it going strong, even the stream maintenance downtime was very smooth and quick. They had some great tech guys this time.
Well shit. How do I go back to sleeping normally now?
On August 02 2015 17:08 TheEmulator wrote: I didn't hear anything about it. I hope there is.
Apparently hotel fee is super expensive so there won't be.
Oh well that makes it all sense if they are just trying to get out of dodge. it was just kind of...."7 straight days of streaming for charity, k thx bai." Pretty sudden, don't know if they talked about it or announced it beforehand or anything.
^ cuz it was like 3am EST in the morning for me, 2am for them... very late either way in North America. You can't blame them for making the ending short. Yes each year they've seem to be shorter, I remember when I started to first watch in AGDQ 2013 they spent an hour going around the room of nearly all runners to have them say a short blurb (one runner had a long rant even admitted to having depression *scary*)
If anything they need to schedule it better and have their final game (likely an RPG) end no later than 12am EST, if you expect them to have a longer close out
On August 02 2015 17:27 KobraKay wrote: What was the final figure? When I fell asleep it was above $1.042M
$1,230,852
Not to mention it should keep growing for a few days (not much, but it should)
That's awesome!
What were the best/ funniest/ most epic runs this time? I was away on vacation all week so I missed the whole thing x.x There are a bunch of speed runs I'm going to watch because I love the games, but I don't want to miss any other gems
On August 02 2015 17:27 KobraKay wrote: What was the final figure? When I fell asleep it was above $1.042M
$1,230,852
Not to mention it should keep growing for a few days (not much, but it should)
That's awesome!
What were the best/ funniest/ most epic runs this time? I was away on vacation all week so I missed the whole thing x.x There are a bunch of speed runs I'm going to watch because I love the games, but I don't want to miss any other gems
Any recommendations?
Without thinking too much about it I would recommend: DK 64 Banjo Tooie ( probably just because I like the game ) SM 120 Star race was great Super Mario Bros: The lost levels. One of the hardest games of the franchise with one of the best (game-wise and personality-wise) runners and Eggrolls. Mario Kart was also pretty good. I wanna be the Boshy: Witwix is just great Personally I also really liked the Pokemon Blue runs Earthbound was also pretty amazing. And last but not least:Tetris is just insane
To add to the above, Ocarina of Time was a fun one even if it didn't quite go to plan. Other good runs include: -Ghosts 'n Goblins -Super Monkey Ball -Shovel Knight
Yes please make one! I've been away on vacation (still am) so I can't make one right now like I did for AGDQ, but can someone just copy/ paste this thread's format or use this as a template: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/501242-agdq-2016
EPT
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