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EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
January 14 2007 06:11 GMT
#61
how do you die from drinking too much water anyway, do you just pass out or does your bladder rupture?
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-14 06:16:54
January 14 2007 06:13 GMT
#62
On January 14 2007 15:11 EAGER-beaver wrote:
how do you die from drinking too much water anyway, do you just pass out or does your bladder rupture?


Your body has an incorrect sugar (I think it is sugar, could be salt, bleh) to water ratio, and that sends you into a coma and you eventually die. If you ever read The Hypochondriac's Pocket Guide to Horrible Diseases You Probably Already Have, you would know about it .

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication see also.
Edit2: Wow, her case was already posted in the Water intoxication fatalities, wikipedia is fast :O
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L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
January 14 2007 06:20 GMT
#63
On January 14 2007 03:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2007 03:36 Aphelion02 wrote:
The ironic thing is that this might not have happened had it been alcohol instead of water.


On the contrary, if she drank as much alcohol as she did water to the point where she suffered from water toxicity, she would die instead from alcohol poisoning.
Either way, too much of anything can kill.

except laughter, sex, vegetables and fish
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
January 14 2007 06:23 GMT
#64
On January 14 2007 15:20 L!MP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2007 03:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 14 2007 03:36 Aphelion02 wrote:
The ironic thing is that this might not have happened had it been alcohol instead of water.


On the contrary, if she drank as much alcohol as she did water to the point where she suffered from water toxicity, she would die instead from alcohol poisoning.
Either way, too much of anything can kill.

except laughter, sex, vegetables and fish


Laughter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laughter#Laughter_not_recommended
Sex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_Transmitted_Disease
Vegetables and fish: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluttony

!
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
January 14 2007 06:24 GMT
#65
On January 14 2007 15:11 EAGER-beaver wrote:
how do you die from drinking too much water anyway, do you just pass out or does your bladder rupture?


Its just an osmotic effect. Too much water enters your cells, too much dissolved contents inside your cells leave your cells. Some cells such as red blood cells will gain so much water that they even burst, and obviously thats not going to be very good for you.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 14 2007 06:24 GMT
#66
On January 14 2007 15:13 hasuprotoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2007 15:11 EAGER-beaver wrote:
how do you die from drinking too much water anyway, do you just pass out or does your bladder rupture?


Your body has an incorrect sugar (I think it is sugar, could be salt, bleh) to water ratio, and that sends you into a coma and you eventually die. If you ever read The Hypochondriac's Pocket Guide to Horrible Diseases You Probably Already Have, you would know about it .

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication see also.
Edit2: Wow, her case was already posted in the Water intoxication fatalities, wikipedia is fast :O


Solutes in your blood, namely NaCl.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 14 2007 06:39 GMT
#67
On January 14 2007 10:35 Bill307 wrote:
I can realistically see the radio station getting away without paying a cent, unfortunately (good lawyers + gullible jury (+ waiver signed by her?)). But hopefully that won't be the case.


It'd depend on whethere these contestants some sort of release of liability contract too.
TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
January 14 2007 06:41 GMT
#68
drink artificial blood and hole ur wee next time then
does this help btw :D
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 14 2007 10:15 GMT
#69
Since nobody has mentioned it...

Body fluids contain electrolytes (particularly sodium compounds, such as sodium chloride) in concentrations that must be held within very narrow limits. Water enters the body orally or intravenously and leaves the body primarily in the urine and in sweat. If water enters the body more quickly than it can be removed, body fluids are diluted and a potentially dangerous shift in electrolyte balance occurs.

Most water intoxication is caused by hyponatremia, an overdilution of sodium in the blood plasma, which in turn causes an osmotic shift of water from extracellular fluid (outside of cells) to intracellular fluid (within cells). The cells swell as a result of changes in osmotic pressure and may cease to function. When this occurs in the cells of the central nervous system and brain, water intoxication is the result. Additionally, many other cells in the body may undergo cytolysis, wherein cell membranes that are unable to stand abnormal osmotic pressures rupture, killing the cells. Initial symptoms typically include light-headedness, sometimes accompanied by nausea, vomiting, headache and/or malaise. Plasma sodium levels below 100 mmol/L (2.3g/L) frequently result in cerebral edema, seizures, coma, and death within a few hours of drinking the excess water. As with alcohol poisoning, the progression from mild to severe symptoms may occur rapidly as the water continues to enter the body from the stomach or intravenously.

A person with two healthy kidneys can excrete about 1.5 litres of water per hour at maximum filtration (other studies find the limit to be as little as 0.9L/h [2]). Consuming as little as 1.8 litres of water in a single sitting may prove fatal for a person adhering to a low-sodium diet, or 3 litres for a person on a normal diet. However, this must be modulated by potential water losses via other routes. For example, a person who is perspiring heavily may lose 1 L/h of water through perspiration alone, thereby raising the threshold for water intoxication. The problem is further complicated by the amount of electrolytes lost in urine or sweat, which is variable within a range controlled by the body's regulatory mechanisms. Water intoxication can be prevented by consuming water that is isotonic with water losses, but the exact concentration of electrolytes required is difficult to determine and evolves over time, and the greater the time period involved, the smaller the disparity that may suffice to produce electrolyte imbalance and water intoxication.

Sodium is not the only mineral that can become overdiluted from excessive water intake. Magnesium is also excreted in urine. "Magnesium deficiency can cause metabolic changes that may contribute to heart attacks and strokes."[3] Intravenous magnesium is used in cardiac care units for cardiac arrhythmias.[4]

-Wiki

So for short:
Your body fluid is kinda like salt water. If too much salt ratio, your cell turns into fucking jerkies, dry out withering death. If too little salt ratio, your cells instead of shrinking, they blow up and burst a glorious death.
Woman drank too much. Brain cells blew up. GG
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 14 2007 10:17 GMT
#70
“I was talking to her and she was a nice lady,” Ybarra said. “She was telling me about her family and her three kids and how she was doing it for kids.”

Ah shit
Imagine... if she won the contest kids would be like "SHIT COOL MOM!"
But now it's probably "Stupid woman!"
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
[jOyO]
Profile Joined July 2006
United States920 Posts
January 14 2007 10:59 GMT
#71
On January 14 2007 02:18 Manifesto7 wrote:
Too much water also gets you high.

so does drugs o0
You must notta heard me PARTNA!
BaboToss
Profile Joined September 2006
United States108 Posts
January 14 2007 11:01 GMT
#72
this is not the first time that someone dies due to water intoxication. i think that the radio should be sued for it. when they do such a contest, then they should inform themselves first what can happen..
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 14 2007 11:24 GMT
#73
On January 14 2007 01:58 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
It's kind of stupid to blame the radio station, and sorry to say this, but I don't mean any offence: it's an american thing. You have to blame someone, you have to sue the radio station. WHY?? If I'd tell a 28 year old woman to jump from the 20th-floor of a building for a free car would she do it?

I feel sorry for her, but it wasn't really the radio station who should have considered water is bad for your health it's the people who choose to drink it! I can see how this could be blamed on the radio station if there were kids in it or so, but at that age you should ask yourself some questions before doing crap like that.


Well, she wouldn't jump from the 20th floor of a building because she KNOWS she's going to get killed, or at least get her bones broken. If the radio station planned and hosted this event, I would think it was their responsibility to check up on any risks and make SURE that all the contestants were made aware of them.

I'm not discussing the fairness of suing the radiostation. Just pointing out that your example isn't suitable.
RekcaH
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
United States190 Posts
January 14 2007 13:25 GMT
#74
I live in Sacramento and listen to the radio station fairly often. They do some dumb things but usually nothing this dangerous. I read that all the contestants had to sign waivers acknowledging the health risks of the contest and were told to not push themselves too hard if they felt something was wrong.

Either way its a stupid thing to do, but more likely than not the station won't get into trouble because of those waivers.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 14 2007 13:36 GMT
#75
Ok Gandalf, say I'd give you 50$ to eat some weird-looking mushrooms. Would you do it? And if so, could I end up in jail if you die?

I'm seriously asking, because i've heard of some really fucked up things in the criminal justice system of the US. It doesn't seem normal to me that the radio station is to blame. Yes, it would be great if they weren't idiots and looked up the risks, but SHE WAS NOT A GODDAMN CHILD, OR A RETARDED PERSON. You have to take responsabilities for your own actions! If you didn't know electric shock would kill you, could you blame the electric company if you stick your fingers in an outlet?

I really, really understand the "she didn't know" argument, but she did it to herself, shouldn't she at least CONSIDER that there might be a risk? I hate it how you get to blame your own idiotic actions on somone else.

Also, I'm going to make a poll on starcraft.ro to see how many people in Romania (who are not accustomed to the US justice system) think the radio station is to blame. I'll come back with the results in a couple of days.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 14 2007 13:57 GMT
#76
On January 14 2007 22:36 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
Ok Gandalf, say I'd give you 50$ to eat some weird-looking mushrooms. Would you do it? And if so, could I end up in jail if you die?

I'm seriously asking, because i've heard of some really fucked up things in the criminal justice system of the US. It doesn't seem normal to me that the radio station is to blame. Yes, it would be great if they weren't idiots and looked up the risks, but SHE WAS NOT A GODDAMN CHILD, OR A RETARDED PERSON. You have to take responsabilities for your own actions! If you didn't know electric shock would kill you, could you blame the electric company if you stick your fingers in an outlet?

I really, really understand the "she didn't know" argument, but she did it to herself, shouldn't she at least CONSIDER that there might be a risk? I hate it how you get to blame your own idiotic actions on somone else.

Also, I'm going to make a poll on starcraft.ro to see how many people in Romania (who are not accustomed to the US justice system) think the radio station is to blame. I'll come back with the results in a couple of days.


Uhh NO ONE would eat "weird looking mushrooms" because, uhh, they're weird looking. If it were steaks, on the other hand, I would. Why? Because I eat steaks all the time, and I believe they aren't harmful. Weird mushrooms? No, thanks. Water? Sure, because I drink water all the time, every day, and it wouldn't occur to me that its actually harmful.

Bad example again.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 14 2007 13:58 GMT
#77
Also, this isn't a "bet" between two teenagers. This is a radio station doing something for publicity or w/e, and they're exposing people to it, and its their responsibility to be aware of anything that can go wrong.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 14 2007 15:25 GMT
#78
Ok final example:

Should you blame BLIZZARD for the people that died due to too much playign WOW? Or should those two parents who left their kid die sue blizzard for making wow?

I mean they used to play computer games all the time, they didn't think too much of it could harm them/their child. I think this is the most accurate example I can think of, hope it's satisfying.

I mean blizzard didn't state anywhere that you shouldn't play more than x hours. And they gave rewards in game for people who did play a lot, like higher levels, etc. It's not the exact same thing, but it's really close, and it's the people's fault, as usual.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
January 14 2007 15:35 GMT
#79
On January 15 2007 00:25 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
Ok final example:

Should you blame BLIZZARD for the people that died due to too much playign WOW? Or should those two parents who left their kid die sue blizzard for making wow?

I mean they used to play computer games all the time, they didn't think too much of it could harm them/their child. I think this is the most accurate example I can think of, hope it's satisfying.

I mean blizzard didn't state anywhere that you shouldn't play more than x hours. And they gave rewards in game for people who did play a lot, like higher levels, etc. It's not the exact same thing, but it's really close, and it's the people's fault, as usual.


should you blame gun manucturers for shootings?
should you blame tobacco companies for causing lung cancer?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 14 2007 15:43 GMT
#80
On January 15 2007 00:25 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
I mean blizzard didn't state anywhere that you shouldn't play more than x hours.


I'm almost certain every single game comes with a warning against prolonged playing, somewhere along the lines of "rest 15 minutes every 1 hour of playing" or something similar to that language in order to avoid such liability.
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