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thanks for all the background info.
just my own personal experience.
i'm reasonably happy with the immigration system. what i don't like are these left-wing labellers waiting to call me a xenophobe if i announce any level of skepticism related to any aspect of immigration.
the state of the immigration system must always be a source of active debate.
Archie Bunker Opinion Warning
in my experience the newest immigrants who come here without doing the refugee thing.. nor the asylum thing ... they are the hardest working people i know... and the more generations away from their first entering canada the lazier they get. until they're as lazy as the locals. i don't have experience with asylum seekers or refugee claimants. i'm talking about your typical korean family that starts a corner store in canada and the parents work 100 hours a week. then their kids work harder than average but are a bit lazier than their parents. then by the time those original koreans have great grandchildren.. those great grand children ( 3rd generation canadian?) are as lazy as the locals.
i think your average canadian is pretty lazy. me included. 
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nobody gives a fuck about the conclusions you draw from your personal experiences tbh. Long ago, I have learned that you should distrust people who have simple solutions to complicated issues because they do not understand them. Keep name dropping though, adds a lot of weight to your contribution /s.
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On October 24 2017 00:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:thanks for all the background info. just my own personal experience. i'm reasonably happy with the immigration system. what i don't like are these left-wing labellers waiting to call me a xenophobe if i announce any level of skepticism related to any aspect of immigration. the state of the immigration system must always be a source of active debate. Archie Bunker Opinion Warningin my experience the newest immigrants who come here without doing the refugee thing.. nor the asylum thing ... they are the hardest working people i know... and the more generations away from their first entering canada the lazier they get. until they're as lazy as the locals. i don't have experience with asylum seekers or refugee claimants. i'm talking about your typical korean family that starts a corner store in canada and the parents work 100 hours a week. then their kids work harder than average but are a bit lazier than their parents. then by the time those original koreans have great grandchildren.. those great grand children ( 3rd generation canadian?) are as lazy as the locals. i think your average canadian is pretty lazy. me included.
I absolutely agree, (not the Archie bunker opinion, I couldn't reliably speak to that observation, although I get where you are coming from) immigration is a very tricky thing and managing it should be always under scrutiny. The Canadian system is by and large pretty healthy compared to most. It has its bureaucratic pitfalls ofcourse that can always be improved but commonwealth countries like Canada and Australia generally know what they want in terms of immigration and handle it pretty well.
I think what should concern people more is the influx of wealthy immigrants, that actually have no plans to actually contribute and basically pay the govt somwhere between 200-500k for residence through investor programs throw a bunch of money into the real estate markets for their kids to use while they study and then once they get the passport. Put the properties back on the market since we all know how hot that is.
There is enough gaming of the system (especially in the 1990's to mid 2000's) that you could make the case that some of the policy changes that the Harper Govt employed(as despicable as some of it was) wasnt totally in the wrong its just that it was lazy solutions that burned genuine contributing immigrants aswell.
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Aren't most of them going through the Quebec program and then relocating to BC and ONT? Afaik Quebec is doing nothing to make sure they stay in the province but still collecting the "investment" money.
@Rebs are you concerned about the record number of 10 year visas that are being handed out?
WRT the budget and taxes, I suspect removing defined benefit pensions (and replacing with RRSP contribution plan) and taxing capital gains on principal residences will be much more financially responsible. But that will never happen sadly.
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On October 24 2017 00:48 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
nobody gives a fuck about the conclusions you draw from your personal experiences tbh. Long ago, I have learned that you should distrust people who have simple solutions to complicated issues because they do not understand them. Keep name dropping though, adds a lot of weight to your contribution /s.
u mad bro?
everything is a personal experience. every vote by every citizen in this country is influenced by their personal experience.
your interpretation of my post is your personal experience. i don't think consumption based taxation is a simple solution. enforcing any tax is complex and difficult and requires expertise. However, i think consumption based taxation is the way to go. as i stated in my initial comment i don't think elimination of income tax will ever happen. I would like to see higher consumption based taxes and lower income taxes.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-gst-hated-by-many-stands-the-test-of-time/article560699/?arc404=true
the GST is good and i'd like to see it go up while other ( productivity type ) taxes are lowered. i think it was a mistake by Harper to lower the GST. He should've lowered other taxes.
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On October 24 2017 08:38 CorsairHero wrote:
Aren't most of them going through the Quebec program and then relocating to BC and ONT? Afaik Quebec is doing nothing to make sure they stay in the province but still collecting the "investment" money.
@Rebs are you concerned about the record number of 10 year visas that are being handed out?
WRT the budget and taxes, I suspect removing defined benefit pensions (and replacing with RRSP contribution plan) and taxing capital gains on principal residences will be much more financially responsible. But that will never happen sadly.
Alot* are still going through Quebec, I know quite alot of people like that actually, but the Quebec program is also a bit of a shitshow in terms of timelines, processing etc. So the really rich folk avoid it.
There is no way to actually stop people from leaving Quebec, lets face it, its not a great investment location, white collar work for non francophone's is non existent. Half my high school class went to Mcgill and UofT. The Mcgill kids love Montreal but couldnt find a sustainable way to stay unless they spoke professional proficiency french. If you are an investor PR candidate Quebec is happy to take your money, some money is better than no money. Also the federal Govt does its own review aswell after Quebec accepts immigrant apps.
10 year visas for what ? Multiple entry visiter/tourism you mean? I have no problem with that its good for tourism. If you deem someone worthy to visit once I dont see why you need to keep having them prove it over and over again. But there is the potential for abuse, its a cost benefit thing. Rich Asians will prefer to use tourist visas and give up PR's for the primary applicant because they can use their kids to funnel investment in quite legally and still be able to travel in and out conveniently.
Ive been filling out visa application forms all my life, I fucking hate it but I see the reason for it. Filling out travel history when you travel alot is really annoying though. Canadian visitor/tourist visa policy has historically been very rigid. They deliberately sabotage family vacations by not not giving out a visa to one critical family member (to ensure ties to country) or something else stupid.
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if the USA bans all muslims from immigrating then i hope Canada can find a way to bring in the best, high quality muslim immigrants that the USA is illogically rejecting.
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On November 03 2017 01:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if the USA bans all muslims from immigrating then i hope Canada can find a way to bring in the best, high quality muslim immigrants that the USA is illogically rejecting.
We have this court system that would stop that from happening almost instantly, so I wouldn’t hold out hope.
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The US and Canada allready get the best and the brightest, unless muslims develope crazy swimming skills...
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There are plenty of inbetween with respect to being "soft" on crime and Dictator style extra judicial killings. Also they dont work long term and the collateral is massive.
It also creates or fosters an existing culture where authorities start classifying anyone not in uniform as a second class citizen and effectively can extend the lack of checks and balances to anything. Its a few steps in what are effectively police states. It has nothing to do with whether being soft on crime (Whatever that implies) would work in the Philippines.
Educated Pinoys hate him btw. But educating people is against the interests of authoritarians. There are drug issues in the Philippines but nowhere near the point of just busting down doors shooting up the place which is basically what they are doing.
You go one of two ways too go from there, either you turn into a shitty Turkey or a violent form of China. Neither one is desirable nor progressive. And the culture has little to do with either.
You havee noooo idea who top down a culture is when it comes to basic human decency amongst the public. In Canada we take it for granted, sometimes peoples complaints actually flabbergast me. The bureaucracy here has many flaws but by and large its a relative fucking paradise.
Just look at the US. Its a good example of leadership fostering deplorable (yeah yeah..) behavior.
Duterte is a bonafide cunt, hes an asshole and basically either kills, fires or insults anyone who disagrees with him.
If someone says you shouldn't park your car here for 10 mins over what you payed in the meter timer, the other guy can say, "its fine man its just 10 mins." That is a difference of opinion.
You dont say, "You dont know why I did it, fuck off asshole, its my car I can do whatever i want. "
Guess which reaction is Duterte.
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On November 17 2017 06:48 JimmiC wrote: The general public will give credit to tge current leader,
uhhh according to the article i posted the general public is not giving credit to the current leader.
On November 17 2017 06:48 JimmiC wrote:
The other factor is with how global the economy is decisions changes in the states and china probably have more impact then his.
uhhh Canada will lead the G7 in growth. every G7 nation is either benefiting from or being harmed by the global economy.
i think part of the credit for Canada's improved economy goes to the USA and Donald Trump.
On November 17 2017 06:48 JimmiC wrote:
Much like how chretien got credit for the economic success canada had based on the free trade and gst which him rallying against got him elected (but then he broke every promise he made on repealing them)
Jean Chretien held power from November 4, 1993 to December 12, 2003
The economy for the 3 years before Uncle Jean took office was substantially worse than any of Chretien's 10 years as PM. and you better believe Chretien deserves credit for it.
Mulroney was above average at managing the Canadian economy and Chretien did better than above average.
Chretien deserves more credit than your typical standard PM because he acted as Finance Minster under Trudeau and had a detailed knowledge of how to manage the Canadian economy long before he ever became PM.
i'm glad he broke all his promises and i'm glad he kept the GST at 7%. Great moves on his part.
Jean Chretien is the best PM Canada's has had in the last 50 years.
I think i'm gong to start singing "oh canada" now.
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yes. wanting to rip up nafta and taxing soft wood and screwing over bombardier with 300% tariff has improved our economy
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alls i know is employers are scrambling for software makers and my rates as a hired gun are going up... and i'm more picky than ever.
help wanted signs are everywhere.
me, my colleagues, and my extended family can feel the difference in the economic landscape. i hope it stays like this.
On November 17 2017 07:58 CorsairHero wrote:
yes. wanting to rip up nafta
i'm in favour of getting rid of NAFTA.
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On November 17 2017 08:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote:alls i know is employers are scrambling for software makers and my rates as a hired gun are going up... and i'm more picky than ever. help wanted signs are everywhere. me, my colleagues, and my extended family can feel the difference in the economic landscape. i hope it stays like this. i'm in favour of getting rid of NAFTA.
I personally wouldnt mind NAFTA getting ripped apart aswell. I work in Customs automation and Brokerage + Duty recovery consulting. NAFTA makes the duty recovery and classification functions somewhat obsolete because.. well no duty.
Without duty I gain alot personally so I am totally ok with it. In a seflish way anyway.
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