European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread - Page 1320

On February 25 2022 02:43 Dav1oN wrote:


Yea, all roads to the western border are packed, plus the problem is that I don't have a car for use atm. Air is closed, the sea is blocked, and to the western border it takes like a day by train (will check if the railway available)



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Mr Martin said that the Minister for Foreign Affairs and the Minister for Justice were working together to start the process of waiving the visas requirements for all Ukrainian citizens entering Ireland.

On February 25 2022 02:58 Zambrah wrote:
A revolutionary uprising in Russia is probably the only way this invasion gets stopped and tbh I dont see support being THAT high, plus it'd probably only result in Russia massacring a bunch of their own people instead of massacring Ukrainians.

Gotta love fascistic strongman regimes.

On February 25 2022 02:18 Jealous wrote:

"Up until yesterday" helps their claim but is still not really true because Russia was in Syria, Afghanistan, and other such places. I think the point was that much of the* UN was in Iraq, USA in Afghanistan until 2021, they have boats circling in Korean waters and by Taiwan, etc. This is whataboutism but it's still true.

On February 25 2022 02:56 Oukka wrote:
Apparently a Russian platoon surrendered without fighting, not wanting to kill Ukrainians. Again probably better to wait for more info and other sources, too, but I find any news of Russian opposition to the war quite encouraging. ~30 odd guys of the 150 000+ deployed isn't a lot, but unlikely they're the only ones who think like this.

https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1496884570716835840?t=4kZkNFUclpUz2VmNAMzhCQ&s=19

On February 25 2022 03:09 LegalLord wrote:

From what I've seen this intervention isn't popular in Russia, but not in a "protest for government overthrow" way. More so "stay home and hope for the best" with the moderate protest action you've seen so far from those that are willing to protest.

The 2014 intervention was much more visibly popular; this isn't.

On February 25 2022 03:35 Salazarz wrote:


I have a friend who is about as anti-Putin as it gets in Russia, not just in words but in actual actions. He's deeply involved with their national-socialist hardliners (skinheads, neo-nazis, that sort of crowd) -- they're not very nice people at all, but they are one of the very few organized groups that genuinely want to oust Putin and aren't afraid to show it. Navalny was a big figure in those circles until he started to distance himself from them a little to try and appeal more to 'normal' people, since most regular folks wouldn't really vote for a skinhead as an alternative to Putin.

His reaction so far to the Ukraine situation is, frankly, somewhat disheartening -- it's pretty much just 'wait and see what happens' so far. Considering him and other dudes like him were taking to the streets after nearly every shitty move Putin has done at home (pension 'reforms', various changes to the constitution etc, not to mention Navalny's arrest), it's honestly surprising to see that him and others like him are basically okay with the invasion.

According to him, folks he hangs out with are half-expecting Putin to make moves on Caucasus and Transnistria if Ukraine goes 'well', too, which is pretty frightening. I really thought there would be more pushback from inside and more serious protests, but I guess not. Apparently they think that a 'successful' campaign in Ukraine will actually increase Putin's domestic support significantly, even if sanctions drive their economy into the ground. It makes no sense to me, but then again, what do I know. I genuinely believed nothing would come of the Russian buildup all the way up to the moment the missiles started flying and tanks started rolling.