EPTExit Polls:
Cons: 34.5
Soc-Dems: 23.5
Nationalists: 17.5
Greens: 13.5
Neoliberals: 8.0
More Greens: 2.0
Communists: 1.0
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread - Page 1249
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Exit Polls: Cons: 34.5 Soc-Dems: 23.5 Nationalists: 17.5 Greens: 13.5 Neoliberals: 8.0 More Greens: 2.0 Communists: 1.0 | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
PNL: 25,8% - left Alianța 2020 USR-PLUS: 23,9% - left(center), technocrats, constitutionals; the alliance was created last year. Pro România: 5,7% - left(center), ex-PSD UDMR: 5,4% - magyar minority PMP: 5,2% - populist, ex-PNL(PDL) - easy ~60% proEU | ||
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Sent.
Poland9290 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 27 2019 03:15 TheDwf wrote: As expected the FN won, but macronists are not that behind. Greens overperformed, the mainstream right collapsed, the FI (left) suffered a setback, the PS did better than polls announced and will have elected representatives in the end. https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1132708380760584192 everything that weakens the EVP and possible prevents "I dont want a free internet"-Weber is a blessing in this timelime | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
On May 27 2019 03:14 Sent. wrote: they are the nationalists that push the Soros narrative or the deep/parallel state one. the only reason they're not openly anti-EU is because it'll kill their political career.You mean the rest is anti EU or would be labelled as anti EU by the liberals? people are generally still pro-EU. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
Interest in European elections: Strong 69 (+21) Not so Strong 31 (-21) Main reason for election decision: Climate / ecology: 48 (+28) Social security: 43 (-5) Peace: 35 (-7) Immigration: 25 (+12) Personal advantage or disadvantage from EU membership of Germany: Advantage: 68 Disadvantage: 17 Neutral: 11 Preferred president of EU commission Can not judge: 64 Weber: 15 Timmermans: 14 Neither: 4 Who has the best answers for the questions of the future: CDU/CSU: 18 Greens: 17 SPD: 7 No Party: 37 Agreement with statements: The EU-membership causes/contributes (tricky to translate) to our economic well-being: 78 (+10) The EU interferes in to many things: 46 (-16) | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On May 27 2019 03:24 Nyxisto wrote: Good to see that the AfD is stuck at 12% or whatever and also pretty happy about seeing the Greens do so well. SPD continues to die rather rapidly and needs a completely new program. If the voter movement of the youth is any indication, they need a much better ecological and liberal profile. They figured out that the usual debate on who becomes chancellor candidate is always harming them. So they created a plan on how to avoid having to name a chancellor candidate for the next election. It is working really well! They are right on track. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23841 Posts
So far I gather that the fear of a rightward swing among the electorate didn't manifest but I'm only like 51% sure that's what happened. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11798 Posts
On May 27 2019 03:37 GreenHorizons wrote: Takes me so long just to decipher the various parties (double check the country being referenced), remember their notable quirks, and connect some personality/figure to it I have a hard time staying interested. Could someone give a ELI5 (American edition) for what happened? So far I gather that the fear of a rightward swing among the electorate didn't manifest but I'm only like 51% sure that's what happened. In Germany, it didn't manifest. There was a bit of a move from conservatives (CDU/CSU) towards hard right AfD, but the most interesting thing that happened here is that the Greens doubled in value, and the social democrats are collapsing. The total amount of rightwing didn't change relevantly. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23841 Posts
On May 27 2019 03:42 Simberto wrote: In Germany, it didn't manifest. There was a bit of a move from conservatives (CDU/CSU) towards hard right AfD, but the most interesting thing that happened here is that the Greens doubled in value, and the social democrats are collapsing. The total amount of rightwing didn't change relevantly. Okay, so I think I was mostly reading that right. If I understand the nuance at all (I probably don't), folks like Big J would say that the "center-left" and "social democrat" labels aren't exactly accurate but otherwise generally see things the same way? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11798 Posts
On May 27 2019 03:47 GreenHorizons wrote: Okay, so I think I was mostly reading that right. If I understand the nuance at all (I probably don't), folks like Big J would say that the "center-left" and "social democrat" labels aren't exactly accurate but otherwise generally see things the same way? I don't know where you got that from, the only post by Big J i saw on the last three pages was a short summary of the austrian EU election, and a short post where he states that he dislikes the EU conservatives. Slightly unrelated: I was an election helper (Is this the correct english word for the people who work at the voting stations?) for the first time in this election, and it is an experience that i can greatly recommend. You get a much better feeling of what votes actually mean if you meet 400 people who come in to vote, and then see (and count) all these ballots. 200 Votes doesn't feel like a lot in the statistics on TV, but if you actually see just how big a pile of paper those are, you get a lot more respect for them.I think it is also important to understand how the systems work at the low level. I have a lot of newfound respect for the basic process of balloting and counting votes, and how many safeguards there are in it, and how much effort people put into making it work. We recounted over 700 votes three times, and checked and rechecked all sorts of things because the total didn't add up to the same number as the total amount of entries for people who voted. Also, it is amazing to see just how well organized it is and how well it works on a mechanical level. In the 5.5 hours that i was at the ballot, i don't think a single person had to wait for more than 3-5 minutes. Seriously, i think this is something that every person in a democracy should do at least once. I will definitively do it again for the next elections. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23841 Posts
On May 27 2019 04:03 Simberto wrote: I don't know where you got that from, the only post by Big J i saw on the last three pages was a short summary of the austrian EU election, and a short post where he states that he dislikes the EU conservatives. Slightly unrelated: I was an election helper (Is this the correct english word for the people who work at the voting stations?) for the first time in this election, and it is an experience that i can greatly recommend. You get a much better feeling of what votes actually mean if you meet 400 people who come in to vote, and then see (and count) all these ballots. 200 Votes doesn't feel like a lot in the statistics on TV, but if you actually see just how big a pile of paper those are, you get a lot more respect for them.I think it is also important to understand how the systems work at the low level. I have a lot of newfound respect for the basic process of balloting and counting votes, and how many safeguards there are in it, and how much effort people put into making it work. We recounted over 700 votes three times, and checked and rechecked all sorts of things because the total didn't add up to the same number as the total amount of entries for people who voted. Also, it is amazing to see just how well organized it is and how well it works on a mechanical level. In the 5.5 hours that i was at the ballot, i don't think a single person had to wait for more than 3-5 minutes. Seriously, i think this is something that every person in a democracy should do at least once. I will definitively do it again for the next elections. Just that J also seems to the left of most (I read this thread even though I don't post often) but otherwise the description was fine. I wonder if I could sell "This takes 5 minutes in Germany" t-shirts in the hours long lines to vote in the US? | ||
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Sent.
Poland9290 Posts
PiS: 42,4% KE: 39,2% (alliance of Civic Platform (liberals/conservatives depending on the weather), SLD (post commies), Greens (aparrently they exist), PSL (rural conservatives), basically everything between PiS and the far left) Wiosna: 6,6% (far left) Konfederacja 6,1% (far right) Turnout: ~43% | ||
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Yurie
12079 Posts
On May 27 2019 04:10 GreenHorizons wrote: Just that J also seems to the left of most (I read this thread even though I don't post often) but otherwise the description was fine. I wonder if I could sell "This takes 5 minutes in Germany" t-shirts in the hours long lines to vote in the US? It takes me 14 minutes. 5 minutes travel there (bicycle), 2 minutes finding the right place. 2 minutes voting (no queues) and then 5 min home. Preliminary results at 23, so can't say how the elections here went. Though it is fun when they put up a scale of the blocks in the EU with Swedish representatives on it. One slightly right of the center. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Emqcp58.png) Though estimate of the Swedish results are there until official count is done. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/ENcO0OI.png) | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10140 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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