I think this is so huge it deserves its own topic. If the MODs disagree please close this thread with my apologies.
Few Metal bands come close to being even 10% as good as Led Zeppelin. Metallica is one of those bands.
I'm a big lover of all things Blizzard. Such amazing top notch quality in all their entertainment software. And, they came through big time for this year's Blizzcon.
Colour me super impressed. And, because i get to play such masterpieces as Brood War, Warcraft 2 and 3, and Starcraft 2... i am not easily impressed.
Thanks Blizzard for still being the best entertainment software developer in the history of the industry.
you don't want to know how much i spent to see Zeppelin at the O2 arena in London man. it basically was the difference between driving a Toyota Celica and a Toyota Echo. and, it was worth every penny.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
EA is holding a big community event for Command & Conquer on November 7-10 to compete against Blizzcon. Its sold out with 70,000 seats sold in the epicentre of C&C fandom Berlin, Germany. The concert at the end features U2, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin.
The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are re-uniting with John Bonham's son on drums and Julian Lennon playing for his father John.
Kane will be there with 1,000 Nod Brothers in Cosplay.
Clearly, its a lot more fun to be a C&C fan instead of a Starcraft fan.
Go watch Metallica's Glastonbury performance if you don't think that they are still a good act. They may not be where they were 25 years ago, but they still bring it.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
Gah, i agree. time to create a hotkey for muting the stream.
Metallica is a decent choice. Saw them live twice in the mid nineties, were both pretty fun shows. I really only like their Black album and Justice for all though. But what I really love is how they told Les Claypool he was too good to be their bass player when he auditioned. Who knows, if they gave him the job, there might have never been a Primus.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
EA is holding a big community event for Command & Conquer on November 7-10 to compete against Blizzcon. Its sold out with 70,000 seats sold in the epicentre of C&C fandom Berlin, Germany. The concert at the end features U2, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin.
The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are re-uniting with John Bonham's son on drums and Julian Lennon playing for his father John.
Kane will be there with 1,000 Nod Brothers in Cosplay.
Clearly, its a lot more fun to be a C&C fan instead of a Starcraft fan.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
EA is holding a big community event for Command & Conquer on November 7-10 to compete against Blizzcon. Its sold out with 70,000 seats sold in the epicentre of C&C fandom Berlin, Germany. The concert at the end features U2, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin.
The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are re-uniting with John Bonham's son on drums and Julian Lennon playing for his father John.
Kane will be there with 1,000 Nod Brothers in Cosplay.
Clearly, its a lot more fun to be a C&C fan instead of a Starcraft fan.
Your negative twist on things compared to your OP really kills the mood. Pick a side, excited or not excited! Otherwise how am I supposed to know how to feel!?! Right now I'm stuck in a limbo of emotionlessness. I need to pull out my wallet photo of Bisu quick.
So let it be written So let it be done I'm sent here by the chosen one So let it be written So let it be done To kill the first born pharaoh son I'm creeping death
On October 22 2014 09:15 Mindcrime wrote: I don't know, Magnetic was pretty decent.
If they were booking such a huge band, they should've picked Cannibal Corpse, or some other band that has such a high profile appreciation for Blizzard games. Hell, WoW fans alone could've netted them 3 or 4 of the most prominent hard rock and metal bands out there. I don't understand what Metallica's connection to Blizzard is.
I actually like Cannibal Corpse but they are a band that are literally unlistenable to those not into that kind of music, although point take with Corpsegrinder being a renowned WoW fiend.
On October 22 2014 09:48 Pontius Pirate wrote: If they were booking such a huge band, they should've picked Cannibal Corpse, or some other band that has such a high profile appreciation for Blizzard games. Hell, WoW fans alone could've netted them 3 or 4 of the most prominent hard rock and metal bands out there. I don't understand what Metallica's connection to Blizzard is.
Cannibal corpses would be great. Of course nothing beats this in SC metal.
Metallica is really great! Saw them this summer and they blew me away. Those guys have perfected showmanship and performance. Also great music. I'm happy for the blizzcon visitors.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
Pls mods.
I'm so excited! Back in the day they were the band that got me into playing guitar, and the first band I started listening to seriously.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
Honestly, I don't really understand. Don't they always sell out of tickets? While it's nice that they got a well-known band (although I would argue that they are pretty bad nowadays), I don't see where the profit is here. They aren't selling any more tickets here. Maybe this will cause people to buy their virtual tickets, but that sort of goes against the point of a live concert...
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
EA is holding a big community event for Command & Conquer on November 7-10 to compete against Blizzcon. Its sold out with 70,000 seats sold in the epicentre of C&C fandom Berlin, Germany. The concert at the end features U2, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin.
The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are re-uniting with John Bonham's son on drums and Julian Lennon playing for his father John.
Kane will be there with 1,000 Nod Brothers in Cosplay.
Clearly, its a lot more fun to be a C&C fan instead of a Starcraft fan.
Too bad James can't sing anymore, Lars is as talentless as he is entitled, and Death Magnetic was produced by a brain-dead monkey on heroin. As far as mainstream metal acts go, they could have gone for Mastodon at least.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
EA is holding a big community event for Command & Conquer on November 7-10 to compete against Blizzcon. Its sold out with 70,000 seats sold in the epicentre of C&C fandom Berlin, Germany. The concert at the end features U2, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin.
The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are re-uniting with John Bonham's son on drums and Julian Lennon playing for his father John.
Kane will be there with 1,000 Nod Brothers in Cosplay.
Clearly, its a lot more fun to be a C&C fan instead of a Starcraft fan.
On October 22 2014 11:03 Blargh wrote: Honestly, I don't really understand. Don't they always sell out of tickets? While it's nice that they got a well-known band (although I would argue that they are pretty bad nowadays), I don't see where the profit is here. They aren't selling any more tickets here. Maybe this will cause people to buy their virtual tickets, but that sort of goes against the point of a live concert...
this is the event where Blizzard spents its extra cash. its not made to make a profit.
Metallica has been irrelevant to me since St. Anger, but this is cool nonetheless! Too bad about Lou Reed, I enjoyed Lulu to some extent - he would've been fun to see at Blizzcon.
I flew about ~1300 miles to see the Big 4 in California a couple years back. While I was mostly excited for Anthrax, Metallica put on one hell of a show. And while I don't listen to Metallica often, Death Magnetic was actually really good, and I don't think they could've gotten a better, big band to play at something like this. This is so epic.
Another choice could've been.. Cannibal Corpse? Since Corpsegrinder likes WoW so much? But that would not draw the crowd or the attention that Metallica gets.
And most music at most events is shit indie\alt rock garbage anyway.
They will play mostly badass thrash, they will play some more chill/emotional stuff, and it will be a great show.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
Okay what do you consider a good band?
Troll bait. Move on.
And the guy that said the Black Album was good need to be tied on a chair in front of loud as fuck speakers and get blasted with some real Metal. The Black Album wasnt even Metal anymore and as Mainstream as it gets. Only Nothin else Matters was good despite being a ballad and radio friendly. And St. Anger and Death Magnetic were quite good. Not like the old stuff but it was at least the return to hard music.
This is a good choice. Live they are still a very good Band.
On October 22 2014 11:03 Blargh wrote: Honestly, I don't really understand. Don't they always sell out of tickets? While it's nice that they got a well-known band (although I would argue that they are pretty bad nowadays), I don't see where the profit is here. They aren't selling any more tickets here. Maybe this will cause people to buy their virtual tickets, but that sort of goes against the point of a live concert...
Its not really about garnering a larger audience, but just providing entertainment for the audience in attendance. No profit to be made in signing a band to perform at Blizzcon. The people that want to go to Blizzcon already decided to go before Metallica was announced, and those that aren't going will not be swayed to attend because of a longstanding band like Metallica.
Besides, its not like they will perform a dozen songs of their greatest hits; have two or three other bands to open; and close out the entire night. They will probably perform 3-4 songs; collect a paycheck; and call it a night.
Does Metallica even know the games Blizzard has developed?
The choice is questionable though, but I think they chose Metallica over more modern bands because of the age demographics. I could be wrong, but I think a large portion of Blizzard fans probably enjoyed a Metallica song here and there in the 90's.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
Okay what do you consider a good band?
And St. Anger and Death Magnetic were quite good. Not like the old stuff but it was at least the return to hard music.
Did you even listen to St. Anger? The Snare Drum alone is a reason to destroy every mp3, cd etc of this album.
Good move Blizzard - but that wont make you be a good game developer. Also the EA reference completly destroyed any joy of hearing the booking of Metallica
I just registered, just to come in and post a reply to this thread. Coz' I really can't stand the bullshit from OP.
1st: Your damn Led Zeppelin is a f---ing rock band. Yes. Metal is considered part of rock genre and some even consider it a sub genre of rock, which would be a different story from what I'm talking here. But a big NO for anyone to even start to compare.You trying to compare banana and cucumber? Originated from 70-80s being just thrash metal, to today we see vast amount of sub genres in metal music. Metal's no longer a branch on this tree called rock. It has its own root, stem and branches. Comparing it to rock is a completely invalid and irrelevant comparison.
2nd: I don't know how many years you've been listening to metal(or how many torrents you seeded?) that you even dare to say metal may or may not come close to 10% of anything. I've been a metal fan and musician since 05' and I'm not even confident to say I've listened to all of them. Not to forgot, there are always better composed but poorly produced stuff in underground community.So "few metal bands"? Lol. You just rendered your opinion pretty weak and shaky since you proved that your claim is never neutral and even probably false. Also. You can't appreciate metal, it's your own problem. Never really a fact that you can just jump out and spit out, or force anyone else to agree. However since you did come out here and shout loud, I would be here to attack it all I want all day long. Even non-metal fans/metal haters could still easily agree there are reasons for this type of music to exist since it survived till today going through the times of punk(unless they've got no logical mind with them at all to think) Need not for me to even start to write a billion words essay to educate you the better parts of metal. Coz it ain't a neutral opinion for everyone to appreciate anway,and which is just what you have just done. But still, everyone can see that metal exist till today. Bands like Metallica, slayer which people here grew up listening to are in their 50s and still rocking on. Opposite to what you said. Where something not nearly as 10% as good as something else should be eliminated and become history long ago. What, you mean you don't believe how humans are rational behaving in this?
And till date there are all sorts of metal bands catering to different groups of people. Kids have their metalcores and breakdowns, veterans still have their traditional names(Cannible corpse just released a kick ass new album, soon obituray, though I can't really enjoy it.). Seasoned fans can have all they want, melodic death, death core, technical death. Can't get the point of enjoying extreme genres? Thrash bands are still around(exodus, testament) that you could simply keep banging head non-stop and break you neck.And they do still throw in some clean, slow sounding pieces among all the madness for their fans who wanted that(A trend formally started by metallica with the song fade to black). prefer a bit different voicing and stuff? go get some jent/progressive/math metal. Last I heard, periphery, meshuggah still going strong. And 7/8 strings are becoming the new trend anyway. Ever since I started posting my cover songs on youtube/twitter, there can always be some wild metalbands/artists in a random country just jump out and follow me. And yet here you are, after all this. claiming few metal bands you listened are 10% as good as a f---ing rock band. Hello Dude? Did you really listen to metal?
Back to this topic though
Probably blizzard just thought metallica is the symbol for metal fan and a safer choice for people who are completely new to metal. Which is the sad part. Throughout Metallica's discography there is almost no connection to what Blizzard's been always doing. I'd see some melodic death/black/epic power/gothic/viking metal bands that has quite a number of connections to their fantasy contents of their products. But unfortunately those are even lesser "mainstream" for people to appreciate. For the FPS community though, I guess power metal isn't something so new. #nightwish.
oh hell,almost forgot this. probably metal isn't so new to people playing blizzard games......think about the OST for Zerg.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
Okay what do you consider a good band?
Troll bait. Move on.
And the guy that said the Black Album was good need to be tied on a chair in front of loud as fuck speakers and get blasted with some real Metal. The Black Album wasnt even Metal anymore and as Mainstream as it gets. Only Nothin else Matters was good despite being a ballad and radio friendly. And St. Anger and Death Magnetic were quite good. Not like the old stuff but it was at least the return to hard music.
This is a good choice. Live they are still a very good Band.
Sad but true ? Wherever i may roam ? Come on.
There's a few good song on St Anger, but that the worst album imo too.
On October 22 2014 14:44 Jupiter039 wrote: I just registered, just to come in and post a reply to this thread. Coz' I really can't stand the bullshit from OP.
1st: Your damn Led Zeppelin is a f---ing rock band. Yes. Metal is considered part of rock genre and some even consider it a sub genre of rock, which would be a different story from what I'm talking here. But a big NO for anyone to even start to compare.You trying to compare banana and cucumber? Originated from 70-80s being just thrash metal, to today we see vast amount of sub genres in metal music. Metal's no longer a branch on this tree called rock. It has its own root, stem and branches. Comparing it to rock is a completely invalid and irrelevant comparison.
2nd: I don't know how many years you've been listening to metal(or how many torrents you seeded?) that you even dare to say metal may or may not come close to 10% of anything. I've been a metal fan and musician since 05' and I'm not even confident to say I've listened to all of them. Not to forgot, there are always better composed but poorly produced stuff in underground community.So "few metal bands"? Lol. You just rendered your opinion pretty weak and shaky since you proved that your claim is never neutral and even probably false. Also. You can't appreciate metal, it's your own problem. Never really a fact that you can just jump out and spit out, or force anyone else to agree. However since you did come out here and shout loud, I would be here to attack it all I want all day long. Even non-metal fans/metal haters could still easily agree there are reasons for this type of music to exist since it survived till today going through the times of punk(unless they've got no logical mind with them at all to think) Need not for me to even start to write a billion words essay to educate you the better parts of metal. Coz it ain't a neutral opinion for everyone to appreciate anway,and which is just what you have just done. But still, everyone can see that metal exist till today. Bands like Metallica, slayer which people here grew up listening to are in their 50s and still rocking on. Opposite to what you said. Where something not nearly as 10% as good as something else should be eliminated and become history long ago. What, you mean you don't believe how humans are rational behaving in this?
And till date there are all sorts of metal bands catering to different groups of people. Kids have their metalcores and breakdowns, veterans still have their traditional names(Cannible corpse just released a kick ass new album, soon obituray, though I can't really enjoy it.). Seasoned fans can have all they want, melodic death, death core, technical death. Can't get the point of enjoying extreme genres? Thrash bands are still around(exodus, testament) that you could simply keep banging head non-stop and break you neck.And they do still throw in some clean, slow sounding pieces among all the madness for their fans who wanted that(A trend formally started by metallica with the song fade to black). prefer a bit different voicing and stuff? go get some jent/progressive/math metal. Last I heard, periphery, meshuggah still going strong. And 7/8 strings are becoming the new trend anyway. Ever since I started posting my cover songs on youtube/twitter, there can always be some wild metalbands/artists in a random country just jump out and follow me. And yet here you are, after all this. claiming few metal bands you listened are 10% as good as a f---ing rock band. Hello Dude? Did you really listen to metal?
Back to this topic though
Probably blizzard just thought metallica is the symbol for metal fan and a safer choice for people who are completely new to metal. Which is the sad part. Throughout Metallica's discography there is almost no connection to what Blizzard's been always doing. I'd see some melodic death/black/epic power/gothic/viking metal bands that has quite a number of connections to their fantasy contents of their products. But unfortunately those are even lesser "mainstream" for people to appreciate. For the FPS community though, I guess power metal isn't something so new. #nightwish.
oh hell,almost forgot this. probably metal isn't so new to people playing blizzard games......think about the OST for Zerg.
Lol I love it when someone on the internet creates an account on some obscure forum just to reply to something they clearly perceive to be incorrect and of immense importance.
I am not trying to be belittle you Jupiter039, nor am I arguing against your points, I just find people's behaviours interesting and peculiar, especially on the internet.
I really laughed hard at the Led Zeppelin comparison! As if the world ended in 1980 and there was no music ever since!
Metallicas skill and if they were better in the past (they were! *duck*) aside, yeah they were probably chosen because they are well known. I personally would like to have seen Machinae Supremacy! If there is a metal band that is connected to video games, it would be them! But they would have to be brought to the US...
Still I hope this concert is on the livestream! Would like to see some gamers bang their heads
On October 22 2014 14:44 Jupiter039 wrote: I just registered, just to come in and post a reply to this thread. Coz' I really can't stand the bullshit from OP.
1st: Your damn Led Zeppelin is a f---ing rock band. Yes. Metal is considered part of rock genre and some even consider it a sub genre of rock, which would be a different story from what I'm talking here. But a big NO for anyone to even start to compare.You trying to compare banana and cucumber? Originated from 70-80s being just thrash metal, to today we see vast amount of sub genres in metal music. Metal's no longer a branch on this tree called rock. It has its own root, stem and branches. Comparing it to rock is a completely invalid and irrelevant comparison.
2nd: I don't know how many years you've been listening to metal(or how many torrents you seeded?) that you even dare to say metal may or may not come close to 10% of anything. I've been a metal fan and musician since 05' and I'm not even confident to say I've listened to all of them. Not to forgot, there are always better composed but poorly produced stuff in underground community.So "few metal bands"? Lol. You just rendered your opinion pretty weak and shaky since you proved that your claim is never neutral and even probably false. Also. You can't appreciate metal, it's your own problem. Never really a fact that you can just jump out and spit out, or force anyone else to agree. However since you did come out here and shout loud, I would be here to attack it all I want all day long. Even non-metal fans/metal haters could still easily agree there are reasons for this type of music to exist since it survived till today going through the times of punk(unless they've got no logical mind with them at all to think) Need not for me to even start to write a billion words essay to educate you the better parts of metal. Coz it ain't a neutral opinion for everyone to appreciate anway,and which is just what you have just done. But still, everyone can see that metal exist till today. Bands like Metallica, slayer which people here grew up listening to are in their 50s and still rocking on. Opposite to what you said. Where something not nearly as 10% as good as something else should be eliminated and become history long ago. What, you mean you don't believe how humans are rational behaving in this?
And till date there are all sorts of metal bands catering to different groups of people. Kids have their metalcores and breakdowns, veterans still have their traditional names(Cannible corpse just released a kick ass new album, soon obituray, though I can't really enjoy it.). Seasoned fans can have all they want, melodic death, death core, technical death. Can't get the point of enjoying extreme genres? Thrash bands are still around(exodus, testament) that you could simply keep banging head non-stop and break you neck.And they do still throw in some clean, slow sounding pieces among all the madness for their fans who wanted that(A trend formally started by metallica with the song fade to black). prefer a bit different voicing and stuff? go get some jent/progressive/math metal. Last I heard, periphery, meshuggah still going strong. And 7/8 strings are becoming the new trend anyway. Ever since I started posting my cover songs on youtube/twitter, there can always be some wild metalbands/artists in a random country just jump out and follow me. And yet here you are, after all this. claiming few metal bands you listened are 10% as good as a f---ing rock band. Hello Dude? Did you really listen to metal?
Back to this topic though
Probably blizzard just thought metallica is the symbol for metal fan and a safer choice for people who are completely new to metal. Which is the sad part. Throughout Metallica's discography there is almost no connection to what Blizzard's been always doing. I'd see some melodic death/black/epic power/gothic/viking metal bands that has quite a number of connections to their fantasy contents of their products. But unfortunately those are even lesser "mainstream" for people to appreciate. For the FPS community though, I guess power metal isn't something so new. #nightwish.
oh hell,almost forgot this. probably metal isn't so new to people playing blizzard games......think about the OST for Zerg.
Lol I love it when someone on the internet creates an account on some obscure forum just to reply to something they clearly perceive to be incorrect and of immense importance.
I am not trying to be belittle you Jupiter039, nor am I arguing against your points, I just find people's behaviours interesting and peculiar, especially on the internet.
Moving along...
Nah not really. I've been lurking TL for as long as I can remember since 2009. I've periodically stopped updating it a few times between the years. But've been checking it few times daily since last year. So I always know I'll eventually need an acc one day. Having a public holiday today so I was having some morning coffee time for browsing and typing. But true to a certain extent is that I don't like to join too many conversation/interaction nor do I have the time ,once going back to work again.
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
On October 22 2014 15:25 Geisterkarle wrote: Ha, where do I get the popcorn for this thread?
I really laughed hard at the Led Zeppelin comparison! As if the world ended in 1980 and there was no music ever since!
Metallicas skill and if they were better in the past (they were! *duck*) aside, yeah they were probably chosen because they are well known. I personally would like to have seen Machinae Supremacy! If there is a metal band that is connected to video games, it would be them! But they would have to be brought to the US...
Still I hope this concert is on the livestream! Would like to see some gamers bang their heads
I think the concert would be part of the virtual ticket. No Metallica freebies for the fans!
On October 22 2014 14:44 Jupiter039 wrote: I just registered, just to come in and post a reply to this thread. Coz' I really can't stand the bullshit from OP.
1st: Your damn Led Zeppelin is a f---ing rock band. Yes. Metal is considered part of rock genre and some even consider it a sub genre of rock, which would be a different story from what I'm talking here. But a big NO for anyone to even start to compare.You trying to compare banana and cucumber? Originated from 70-80s being just thrash metal, to today we see vast amount of sub genres in metal music. Metal's no longer a branch on this tree called rock. It has its own root, stem and branches. Comparing it to rock is a completely invalid and irrelevant comparison.
2nd: I don't know how many years you've been listening to metal(or how many torrents you seeded?) that you even dare to say metal may or may not come close to 10% of anything. I've been a metal fan and musician since 05' and I'm not even confident to say I've listened to all of them. Not to forgot, there are always better composed but poorly produced stuff in underground community.So "few metal bands"? Lol. You just rendered your opinion pretty weak and shaky since you proved that your claim is never neutral and even probably false. Also. You can't appreciate metal, it's your own problem. Never really a fact that you can just jump out and spit out, or force anyone else to agree. However since you did come out here and shout loud, I would be here to attack it all I want all day long. Even non-metal fans/metal haters could still easily agree there are reasons for this type of music to exist since it survived till today going through the times of punk(unless they've got no logical mind with them at all to think) Need not for me to even start to write a billion words essay to educate you the better parts of metal. Coz it ain't a neutral opinion for everyone to appreciate anway,and which is just what you have just done. But still, everyone can see that metal exist till today. Bands like Metallica, slayer which people here grew up listening to are in their 50s and still rocking on. Opposite to what you said. Where something not nearly as 10% as good as something else should be eliminated and become history long ago. What, you mean you don't believe how humans are rational behaving in this?
And till date there are all sorts of metal bands catering to different groups of people. Kids have their metalcores and breakdowns, veterans still have their traditional names(Cannible corpse just released a kick ass new album, soon obituray, though I can't really enjoy it.). Seasoned fans can have all they want, melodic death, death core, technical death. Can't get the point of enjoying extreme genres? Thrash bands are still around(exodus, testament) that you could simply keep banging head non-stop and break you neck.And they do still throw in some clean, slow sounding pieces among all the madness for their fans who wanted that(A trend formally started by metallica with the song fade to black). prefer a bit different voicing and stuff? go get some jent/progressive/math metal. Last I heard, periphery, meshuggah still going strong. And 7/8 strings are becoming the new trend anyway. Ever since I started posting my cover songs on youtube/twitter, there can always be some wild metalbands/artists in a random country just jump out and follow me. And yet here you are, after all this. claiming few metal bands you listened are 10% as good as a f---ing rock band. Hello Dude? Did you really listen to metal?
Back to this topic though
Probably blizzard just thought metallica is the symbol for metal fan and a safer choice for people who are completely new to metal. Which is the sad part. Throughout Metallica's discography there is almost no connection to what Blizzard's been always doing. I'd see some melodic death/black/epic power/gothic/viking metal bands that has quite a number of connections to their fantasy contents of their products. But unfortunately those are even lesser "mainstream" for people to appreciate. For the FPS community though, I guess power metal isn't something so new. #nightwish.
oh hell,almost forgot this. probably metal isn't so new to people playing blizzard games......think about the OST for Zerg.
Lol I love it when someone on the internet creates an account on some obscure forum just to reply to something they clearly perceive to be incorrect and of immense importance.
I am not trying to be belittle you Jupiter039, nor am I arguing against your points, I just find people's behaviours interesting and peculiar, especially on the internet.
Moving along...
Nah not really. I've been lurking TL for as long as I can remember since 2009. I've periodically stopped updating it a few times between the years. But've been checking it few times daily since last year. So I always know I'll eventually need an acc one day. Having a public holiday today so I was having some morning coffee time for browsing and typing. But true to a certain extent is that I don't like to join too many conversation/interaction nor do I have the time ,once going back to work again.
Its cool you've been around longer, I lurked for a long period before deciding to become an avid poster.
Actually I really enjoy posting here, because it gives me a chance to sharpen my writing skills.
Yeah you have to pick your topics that you feel need heavy defending, and I can accept that. Too me though, this seems rather trivial because I don't like metal, but I enjoy some rock.
Well whatever your choice, stick around and post more. Its fun interacting with other TL members.
On October 22 2014 04:31 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: The year I went Ozzy played and the crowd was enthusiastic, Or so I was told, I was constantly playing SC2 alpha
Haha, I did the same thing, but I was torn. In hindsight, I probably should have gone to the concert.
Metallica is one of the big four of thrash metal bands, so it's understandable that Blizzard chose them due to their popularity. I feel like some symphonic metal bands would have fit the game's theme better, but most of the really great ones are European.
I am not that much into metal but I do know the big names and have listened to some of their stuff. Personally Black Album was my favorite Metallica album. Maybe I need to be tied on a chair like some guy above said, but that's how it is for me. You all need to understand that playing "real" metal at some event like Blizzcon is likely to do more harm than good. Ever watch say, a Lamb of God's, or even Metallica themselves' concert? Very likely that the non-metal, regular nerds will get scared the hell off, while the metalhead gamers go nuts and start headbanging, crying and smashing shit. Metallica was a safer choice compared to the other 3 in the Big 4; their music is the most "noob-friendly" for lack of better words. And most important they still do decently live (arguably).
Cool fact: Metallica set a world record by being the first band to play in all 7 continents in the same year! Yes, that includes Antarctica. I really hope we can somehow hear them from the SC2 Arena!
1st: Your damn Led Zeppelin is a f---ing rock band. Yes. Metal is considered part of rock genre and some even consider it a sub genre of rock, which would be a different story from what I'm talking here. But a big NO for anyone to even start to compare.You trying to compare banana and cucumber?
Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal band and, imo, far and away the best of the big 3 that created the genre. the Beatles did some pretty cool experimenting in this area from 68 to 70 but their contribution was tiny. it was, however, an admission that metal "has arrived".
an objective measure of Zeppelin's quality ( and anything of quality ) is their sales totals 20+ years after the content was published.
i want to like the heavy metal genre, i really do. its just that once you've listened to led zeppelin 95% of the popularly published metal bands sound more like spinal tap than a musical band.
i like iron maiden , but mainly because their base player can think on his feet and is extremely creative holding their stuff together... and they are 20+ years past their prime.
i'd rather not derail the thread into whether or not Zeppelin is a heavy metal band or not. if you'd like to continue this debate we can do so in the heavy metal thread or elsewhere.
my estimation that Zeppelin is 10X better than almost every other heavy metal band that has ever existed is purely subjective. however, objectively speaking their long term success proves they made top notch music. i'm part of their cult-like following. just as starcraft has a cult like following.
what can i say... i get into things that have cult-like followings.. like led zeppelin, starcraft, and ayn rand. ( and EA NHL 94)
thank you for your lengthy, thoughtful , and, unfortunately sometimes condescending reply.
i'm just tickled fucking pink that Metallica will be at Blizzcon and i let my enthusiasm spill over into too much subjectivity.
On October 22 2014 11:03 Blargh wrote: Honestly, I don't really understand. Don't they always sell out of tickets? While it's nice that they got a well-known band (although I would argue that they are pretty bad nowadays), I don't see where the profit is here. They aren't selling any more tickets here. Maybe this will cause people to buy their virtual tickets, but that sort of goes against the point of a live concert...
Besides, its not like they will perform a dozen songs of their greatest hits; have two or three other bands to open; and close out the entire night. They will probably perform 3-4 songs; collect a paycheck; and call it a night.
Does Metallica even know the games Blizzard has developed?
I think Blink 182 gave a full concert last time so there's not reason to think they won't play 1.5 hours at least. I think it's more about Blizzard staff knowing Metallica then the other way around. They're just like, which awesome band can we get for our little party.
Also for the haters,I watched them just a few months ago during this show, tell me how you think is a bad performance?
On October 22 2014 16:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal band and, imo, far and away the best of the big 3 that created the genre. the Beatles did some pretty cool experimenting in this area from 68 to 70 but their contribution was tiny. it was, however, an admission that metal "has arrived".
While I support, that we don't derail this thread, I can't hold myself and have to ask: Which is this third band you are talking about? If I think about reaaaaly early metal bands (that are basically (hard) rock bands) that have influenced this music genre, Led Zeppelin as well as Beatles are maybe on this list as "honorary mentioned", but not very far up! So who is this mysterious third?
On October 22 2014 16:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal band...
Right, and Hanna Montana is an opera singer.
I think inviting Metallica fits with the general theme of WoD, which is reaching out to veterans, which tend to be people who know the band very well, even if they might not be fans. Plus it's a big name, so it also creates plenty of publicity in the media.
On October 22 2014 16:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal band and, imo, far and away the best of the big 3 that created the genre. the Beatles did some pretty cool experimenting in this area from 68 to 70 but their contribution was tiny. it was, however, an admission that metal "has arrived".
While I support, that we don't derail this thread, I can't hold myself and have to ask: Which is this third band you are talking about? If I think about reaaaaly early metal bands (that are basically (hard) rock bands) that have influenced this music genre, Led Zeppelin as well as Beatles are maybe on this list as "honorary mentioned", but not very far up! So who is this mysterious third?
here is the standard, general, middle of the road summary of the origins of heavy metal.
"The first heavy metal bands such as Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath attracted large audiences, though they were often derided by critics, a status common throughout the history of the genre. "
That would be good to hear indeed, if they had released anything at least decent after Justice, which they didn't, and if they hadn't deteriorated as a live band either, which they did. Nowadays, I'd say it's a drawback rather than a plus to have them perform at anything. They've been dead for decades now, time to accept it and move on.
Besides, it's Blizzcon, and considering the typical audience for such things, I'm sure that something a bit more "contemporary" would've been a better fit.
On October 22 2014 11:03 Blargh wrote: Honestly, I don't really understand. Don't they always sell out of tickets? While it's nice that they got a well-known band (although I would argue that they are pretty bad nowadays), I don't see where the profit is here. They aren't selling any more tickets here. Maybe this will cause people to buy their virtual tickets, but that sort of goes against the point of a live concert...
Besides, its not like they will perform a dozen songs of their greatest hits; have two or three other bands to open; and close out the entire night. They will probably perform 3-4 songs; collect a paycheck; and call it a night.
Does Metallica even know the games Blizzard has developed?
I think Blink 182 gave a full concert last time so there's not reason to think they won't play 1.5 hours at least. I think it's more about Blizzard staff knowing Metallica then the other way around. They're just like, which awesome band can we get for our little party.
Also for the haters,I watched them just a few months ago during this show, tell me how you think is a bad performance?
On October 22 2014 16:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal band and, imo, far and away the best of the big 3 that created the genre. the Beatles did some pretty cool experimenting in this area from 68 to 70 but their contribution was tiny. it was, however, an admission that metal "has arrived".
While I support, that we don't derail this thread, I can't hold myself and have to ask: Which is this third band you are talking about? If I think about reaaaaly early metal bands (that are basically (hard) rock bands) that have influenced this music genre, Led Zeppelin as well as Beatles are maybe on this list as "honorary mentioned", but not very far up! So who is this mysterious third?
here is the standard, general, middle of the road summary of the origins of heavy metal.
"The first heavy metal bands such as Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath attracted large audiences, though they were often derided by critics, a status common throughout the history of the genre. "
On October 22 2014 04:09 TheCzarOfAll wrote: Really wish they wouldn't have picked a band that's utter garbage. I'd rather just listen to their in-house band for twice as long. >_>
EA is holding a big community event for Command & Conquer on November 7-10 to compete against Blizzcon. Its sold out with 70,000 seats sold in the epicentre of C&C fandom Berlin, Germany. The concert at the end features U2, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin.
The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are re-uniting with John Bonham's son on drums and Julian Lennon playing for his father John.
Kane will be there with 1,000 Nod Brothers in Cosplay.
Clearly, its a lot more fun to be a C&C fan instead of a Starcraft fan.
On October 22 2014 16:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal band and, imo, far and away the best of the big 3 that created the genre. the Beatles did some pretty cool experimenting in this area from 68 to 70 but their contribution was tiny. it was, however, an admission that metal "has arrived".
While I support, that we don't derail this thread, I can't hold myself and have to ask: Which is this third band you are talking about? If I think about reaaaaly early metal bands (that are basically (hard) rock bands) that have influenced this music genre, Led Zeppelin as well as Beatles are maybe on this list as "honorary mentioned", but not very far up! So who is this mysterious third?
here is the standard, general, middle of the road summary of the origins of heavy metal.
"The first heavy metal bands such as Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath attracted large audiences, though they were often derided by critics, a status common throughout the history of the genre. "
1st: Your damn Led Zeppelin is a f---ing rock band. Yes. Metal is considered part of rock genre and some even consider it a sub genre of rock, which would be a different story from what I'm talking here. But a big NO for anyone to even start to compare.You trying to compare banana and cucumber?
Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal band and, imo, far and away the best of the big 3 that created the genre. the Beatles did some pretty cool experimenting in this area from 68 to 70 but their contribution was tiny. it was, however, an admission that metal "has arrived".
an objective measure of Zeppelin's quality ( and anything of quality ) is their sales totals 20+ years after the content was published.
i want to like the heavy metal genre, i really do. its just that once you've listened to led zeppelin 95% of the popularly published metal bands sound more like spinal tap than a musical band.
i like iron maiden , but mainly because their base player can think on his feet and is extremely creative holding their stuff together... and they are 20+ years past their prime.
i'd rather not derail the thread into whether or not Zeppelin is a heavy metal band or not. if you'd like to continue this debate we can do so in the heavy metal thread or elsewhere.
my estimation that Zeppelin is 10X better than almost every other heavy metal band that has ever existed is purely subjective. however, objectively speaking their long term success proves they made top notch music. i'm part of their cult-like following. just as starcraft has a cult like following.
what can i say... i get into things that have cult-like followings.. like led zeppelin, starcraft, and ayn rand. ( and EA NHL 94)
thank you for your lengthy, thoughtful , and, unfortunately sometimes condescending reply.
i'm just tickled fucking pink that Metallica will be at Blizzcon and i let my enthusiasm spill over into too much subjectivity.
No thank you bro. Once you made it open your cult belief I realized any of my further actions on this are just going to waste time. I am just going to reply this to you and be done with it. I just like spinal tapes. I like my arsis, my suffocation, my whateva you call it. Whatever you told me you liked, those just sounds like holiday blues and pop to me belongs to people listening them lying on rocking chairs enjoy their retirements and waiting for cancer. I really can't like them too coz I just drop sleep. But the differences here is clear as what I describbed. I still appreciate their efforts. I wouldn't go out and openly boast my favourite bands are thousand times better than anyone coz once it becomes a job for a living no one isn't going to not to give their A game. Musicians, as I know nowadays are living under pretty much the same or worse pressure level. They got to travel the world for like a year on the road, rocking every place like the madness last night didn't exist. End of the day, still gotta squeeze time in the tour to plan for and write new release materials. All this to pay their bills for all expenses on time. Never as many thought as easy. So I do respect them being capable. Which is exactly why I am not going to say some bands are 10X better than any other coz its all sweat and blood no matter how simple and sleep inducing the materials came out to be.
Another reason I would try not to have further discussion with you is that I don give a damn about commercial success. You can write rubbish and still earn money with your label together. Easy. find most the successul band in this territory, copy their stuff, twist it as your wish to make it your own, assemble all and record, then let the studio and label handle the rest. And you got a decent album, simple as that! Many probably have experienced these moments while enjoying their music collections :" the parts just now sounded familiar!", regardles of whatever genre. Now I am not saying your favourite bands are doing this or that. I am just saying, commercial success of selling how many albums to me is useless stats now. I don't listen to a band because they are best selling. I go have audio demos before anything to ensure my purchases. Sure you can still believe best selling bands are having no way to no to be successful. But not for me. and that's exactly why I am saying farewell to you coz this is simply a conversation between people having different values and nothing's ever going to happen.
Glad to know people are still liking starcraft like a cult though. Cya around hopefully.
I don't like that much the recent Metallica stuff either, but their first 5 albums are absolutely amazing and they'll always be one of my favourite heavy metal bands for that.
On October 22 2014 17:18 sigm wrote: That would be good to hear indeed, if they had released anything at least decent after Justice, which they didn't, and if they hadn't deteriorated as a live band either, which they did. Nowadays, I'd say it's a drawback rather than a plus to have them perform at anything. They've been dead for decades now, time to accept it and move on.
Besides, it's Blizzcon, and considering the typical audience for such things, I'm sure that something a bit more "contemporary" would've been a better fit.
What is the typical audience for Blizzcon?
I think a Lana Del Rey concert goes with everything btw.
I have saw metallica in 2008 and 2012. Great concerts no doubt. But Hetfield has lost his great singing voice, Lars (my biggest drum idol) can't drum anymore. And somehow his drums sound awful shit. I blame his drum technician for that. Also guitars doesn't sound so good anymore.
9.) St. Anger 8.) Death Magnetic 7.) Load 6.) ReLoad 5.) Kill 'Em All 4.) Black Album 3.) Ride the Lightning 2.) Master of Puppets 1.) AJFA
I would say: 1. AJFA 2. Master of Puppets 3. Black Album 4. Ride the Lightning 5. Kill 'Em' All (There are really good song in this album but its recorded in so bad quality that I can't put it higher.) 6. Death Magnetic
.. . . I actually havent never really listened these albums. Few songs only. St.Anger, Load, ReLoad.
9.) St. Anger 8.) Death Magnetic 7.) Load 6.) ReLoad 5.) Kill 'Em All 4.) Black Album 3.) Ride the Lightning 2.) Master of Puppets 1.) AJFA
I would say: 1. AJFA 2. Master of Puppets 3. Black Album 4. Ride the Lightning 5. Kill 'Em' All (There are really good song in this album but its recorded in so bad quality that I can't put it higher.) 6. Death Magnetic
.. . . I actually havent never really listened these albums. Few songs only. St.Anger, Load, ReLoad.
Yeah I also haven't listened to Load, ReLoad, DM and St. Anger completely, so not sure about those ones 100%
I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
I would say: 1. AJFA 2. Master of Puppets 3. Black Album 4. Ride the Lightning 5. Kill 'Em' All (There are really good song in this album but its recorded in so bad quality that I can't put it higher.) 6. Death Magnetic
.. . . I actually havent never really listened these albums. Few songs only. St.Anger, Load, ReLoad.
Haha "so bad quality", un-metal fan spotted I guess
Maybe the other albums are just overproduced crap?
Btw ...and justice for all is worse quality than kill 'em all. You can't even hear the bass and the production is so damn dry :pp
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
I think people are looking at this from the wrong angle. This isn't about you. Well, not entirely about you, anyhow.
Metzen and probably a huge number of Blizzard employees are a part of the Metallica generation. This is music that's inspired a lot of their creativity, and through that the games you love, wether it's Diablo, Starcraft or Warcraft, or older Blizzard titles. Imagine, then, that you're holding a Con for your games, and you have the opportunity to invite one of your favorite artists. Fucking awesome, right?
Of course, Cons is not about the host having fun. It's about social networking and marketing, and of catering to the fanbase. But why not do something that matters to you, the host, which can help your fanwork? Why not present music which you find awesome, and meet others who find this music awesome, and together have a even better experience?
You've got your games expos and E3s, where random pop music is licensed because it hits the target demographics. Those that play and buy the games. This music's entirely a marketing gimmick. For a lot of Blizzard though, I believe Metallica is an awesome choice as it's not simply about getting "that wubwub thing the kids today like" - it's about sharing what you love with likeminded people. Through shared, genuine passion and a meaningful experience for both host and antendee, you create an arena of mutual excitement and understanding which resonnates on a far more personal plane than that of ads or fanservice.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
Well, someone may ask himself if calling someone else' musical tastes shit is actually that smart or called for. It's a group that draws a lot of attention, and some of their works actually influenced the global music scene: it's a huge thing regardless of personal tastes.
...seriously what do people expect from Blizzzard? Some obscure indie group half of the audience don't know anything about, Avatism, Placido Domingo... Bob Dylan? It's a huge, flashy, recognisable group that actually knows how to play an instrument. Perfect for what's supposed to be a huge nerd party where people come to have fun rather than searching for the meaning of life or listening to something particularly "intelligent". As if music was born for anything but just fun or eventually war, which is perfect for sc2. Regardless of personal tastes, it's quite a thing for Blizzard to call these guys and that's why I think that herMan is right. + Show Spoiler +
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
Nah, I think it's perfectly possible to get into those bands at later age. Of course, it'll be less common than at younger age, and indeed probably for other reasons.
Metallica at blizzcon is very cool. I don't like the music, but it fits indeed. Also, they're big enough to appeal to lots of people, so it's fine by any standard, imo.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
Teenage heavy metal ? Metaliica is 30yo... Also Wtf with the "after the age of 14". Everyone likes different kind of music but your post is just offensive.
If you ever get to play an instrument and liked this kind of music, you will listen and play it for years... I don't like contemporary stuff. Old metal is like old video games. You love the old, you don't like the new. There's exceptions of course, but yeah... i felt offensed by your comment
On October 22 2014 22:02 juvenal wrote: Haha doesn't get more generic than that, but it's fine. C&C should invite CC (Cannibal Corpse) just for lols
Well...Cannibal corpse would fit at blizzcon (in a sense) because the singer is reaaaaallllyy into world of warcraft :p (he even have the horde symbol tatooed on his arm)
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
And I thought average crowd age is ~40 at Metallica concerts...
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
And I thought average crowd age is ~40 at Metallica concerts...
You should see the crowd at a Rammstein concert. It's even older :p
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
I listened to the Black Album when I was 14 because it came out a year earlier. It was dope as fuck and still is. Plenty of people get into Metallica when they are young. And I still listen to those bands to this day.
Anyone who goes to Metal shows of any type, heavy, light or otherwise knows that the age range for that music is broad. Super broad.
There is more nonsense in this thread than any I can recall since the gamergate one. Ffs folks
Why is it that people older and no doubt wiser than me across the world still haven't come to the realisation that there is not one act you could book that would please everyone, NOT ONE!!
People cannot agree on music or pizza toppings, that is a given fact. Metallica will put on a good stage show and it will be fun. And if you need Warcraft and Starcraft are not metal, go play Brutal Legend and learn that all heavy mental bands are kinda all huge nerds writing power ballets.
On October 22 2014 23:01 sumsaR wrote: This is only big if Metallica only play OLD songs. Not this new crap they've been releasing, like st anger and stuff.
This is never big. Guys got paid, they will play a set, mere business. It's not like they're doing it because they are fans or something, that would be news-worthy.
On October 22 2014 07:53 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Few Metal bands come close to being even 10% as good as Led Zeppelin. Metallica is one of those bands.
This isn't the 1980s. Metallica hasn't made decent music since the Black Album and their first 4 thrash albums.
It doesn't really matter, live they're hardly going to discard their good material and play only their recent stuff.
While not particularly into them anymore it's still something that can draw eyeballs and worse case just you know, don't watch Metallica?
Actually, thanks for bringing that point up. I hear they're also pretty meh playing live nowadays
Seen them twice in the last few years and I disagree completely.
And before you claim it's the newer albums, Kill 'Em All is my favourite and always has been. Live, they fucking rock. And it's not just them, the energy of the crowd is amazing.
On October 22 2014 21:40 zeo wrote: I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Actually most rock/metal fans really dislike contemporary stuff; or better let's say: "pop music". But you are right: They start to like music! And most music that is in some billboard charts is not music for them And yes, probably you get into mentioned bands when you are 14 ... but you still listen to them decades later too! You don't "outgrow" it. I am proof!
On October 22 2014 22:35 Wombat_NI wrote: There is more nonsense in this thread than any I can recall since the gamergate one. Ffs folks
Why is it that people older and no doubt wiser than me across the world still haven't come to the realisation that there is not one act you could book that would please everyone, NOT ONE!!
Exactly. Unfortunately, this means that the act that gets picked is simply the lowest common denominator.
Shame not all the old members but also a shame people who say they want a better bands. really hope people stop thinking bieber can sing he is fucking terrible and all the bands that have similar music has him do as well. good to see blizzard going for a classic band thats awsome to play blizzard games too.
Metallica isnt a cheap band to book for an event, so I really hope that the price of the Blizzcon tickets wasnt inflated just to cover the costs of booking Metallica. Bcuz yeah, theyre not really relevant anymore, they have no connection to the game & im sure we'd probably all want our money going towards something better. Imo this seems like it was done just for hype reasons, but in reality it fails cuz Metallica isnt relevant anymore. Just my opinion
Damn that thread went downhill really fast... De gustibus non est disputandum. Higher ups at Blizzard might be Metallica fans. I still would have loved for Blizzard to get a more fitting band, but Blink 182, Tenacious D and Foo Fighters didn't fit either IMO. Metallica and their lawsuit against Napster...
On October 23 2014 02:28 jinorazi wrote: i wonder who would have been cheaper, SNSD or Metallica
and who would you prefer??
Well, I'd wager that Metallica would be more expensive, because they're a much more known and established band. As for preference, it's hard to say. One one hand, you've got the complete ear rape that is k-pop, on the other hand, you've got a bunch of old, fat dudes who haven't been good for over 20 years. Still, just out of pure nostalgia, I'd rather it was Metallica.
as a 34 yr old and someone who grew up with this band, they havent been good since their spiral crash of the load and thereafter albums, although there were 'nice tunes' on these albums metallica have done too many live performances where they state they are only playing the earlier songs. their performance will be dialed in like the 10 times i went to see them. its great music yes, but the whole napster/business/greed antics which which dominated this era is going to ruin the event for me. Metallica USED to be good. why not get megadeth? Least they kept it real and are still releasing studio alumns with as much pace a ferocity as their first (ye ok they have had 2 hiccups but hell man, theyve wrote a lot of shit and been around a long time!)Oh ye, metallica are more commercial and play for the people who like all the pretty songs . . .see what i did there?
On October 23 2014 03:57 rotta wrote: This is the first band in Blizzcon that's even remotely interesting. I mean Offspring, Tenacious D and Blink-182?
You left out Ozzy, Foo Fighters and Video Games Live.
Blink-182 was a last minute find due to cancellations (their tour dates lined up and had an extra day).
On October 22 2014 22:35 Wombat_NI wrote: There is more nonsense in this thread than any I can recall since the gamergate one. Ffs folks
Why is it that people older and no doubt wiser than me across the world still haven't come to the realisation that there is not one act you could book that would please everyone, NOT ONE!!
Yep. Look at every BlizzCon band announcement, the threads look the same.
A band that will play for 90 minutes, that I do not listen to, does not mean BlizzCon is a bust and I will lose out on the entire weekend. Swag, people, panels, new announcements, WCS, cheering on TopDong, after parties, etc. That is what you go to BlizzCon for.
Why would I buy a ticket for a concert I did not know who was playing yet? Seems so silly to argue about it.
There are other music acts happening around the area over the week if you really want something else.
It never gets old, seeing the same opinions about Metallica posted a hundred times. Sorry they didn't make the same album 10 times.
Before I wanted to go because it was Blizzcon, good shit always goes down there. Now, I feel physically compelled to go, to get up and start walking there now, so I'm pissed that I can't. GG world.
There is no denying that the first 3/4 albums of Metallica is their peak, but at the same time, most early 80s thrash band changed their sound in the 90s. Sure Metallica is kind of the ring leader, but every one want commercial success eventually. And while St. Anger is a terrible album, Risk is a pop/dance album, and Anthrax made nu-metal
I could be that guy that says he loves St. Anger, then go on at some length about why I think it's awesome, but I realize it's pointless here on the internet. I do like the album though. Still think it's just amazing they're doing Blizzcon, I'm now jealous of each and every person going there, on an individual basis.
On October 23 2014 11:02 Wombat_NI wrote: Don't mean to be a bitch but really, if you're going to trash Blizzard's choice at least man up and suggest something in their place.
Well, I really like Skrillex and I think that him or deadmaus (or any other dubstep artist) would be a better suit for a video games event
On October 22 2014 07:53 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Few Metal bands come close to being even 10% as good as Led Zeppelin. Metallica is one of those bands.
This isn't the 1980s. Metallica hasn't made decent music since the Black Album and their first 4 thrash albums.
So true. They started as thrash but now they are only trash.
Heh, that's one way to put it Trujillo's actually a really solid bassist, at least. Metallica's one of my favorite bands and their first 4 albums are 4 of my favorites, but their era was in the 1980s, really. A couple decent tracks on Death Magnetic doesn't make up for the 90s and 2000s and Lulu.
Other old thrash metal bands are still putting out really good albums at least, even in the 2010s. Megadeth's "Endgame", Sodom's "In War and Pieces", Kreator's "Phantom Antichrist", Testament's Dark Roots, etc. all from 2010 onward and are really solid, even decades after "Master of Puppets" and "Rust in Peace".
On October 23 2014 11:02 Wombat_NI wrote: Don't mean to be a bitch but really, if you're going to trash Blizzard's choice at least man up and suggest something in their place.
Well, I really like Skrillex and I think that him or deadmaus (or any other dubstep artist) would be a better suit for a video games event
The band they choose to close Blizzcon doesn't have to have anything to do with the games. And there are all kinds of arguments for why Metallica is more suited to the games, particularly when one of those games is WoW. In then end they don't have to match them up at all, they can pick whoever they want.
In general it really bugs me when everyone gets upset because a large group decides to do something that isn't the thing they want them to do. Blizzard couldn't listen to, and please, everyone, even if they wanted to. It's their event, they can do whatever the hell they want, enjoy it or don't partake.
On October 23 2014 11:02 Wombat_NI wrote: Don't mean to be a bitch but really, if you're going to trash Blizzard's choice at least man up and suggest something in their place.
Well, I really like Skrillex and I think that him or deadmaus (or any other dubstep artist) would be a better suit for a video games event
The band they choose to close Blizzcon doesn't have to have anything to do with the games. And there are all kinds of arguments for why Metallica is more suited to the games, particularly when one of those games is WoW. In then end they don't have to match them up at all, they can pick whoever they want.
In general it really bugs me when everyone gets upset because a large group decides to do something that isn't the thing they want them to do. Blizzard couldn't listen to, and please, everyone, even if they wanted to. It's their event, they can do whatever the hell they want, enjoy it or don't partake.
I know. I just think that skrillex or deadmaus would be a better fit. They dont HAVE to use them, they can go with kanye or whomever -- in this case, they went with Metalica.
I already bounded my M5 macro key on my black widow to mute sounds so im ok.
I don't know this seems kind of awkward. Isn't Blizzcon populated by mostly nerdy types? Isn't Metallica supposed to be for hardcore rockers? So isn't their performance going to be met with mostly awkward people who don't like to dance...well I guess its probably not going to be a real concert. Or maybe they just don't care about that stuff and I'm too sensitive
On October 23 2014 13:12 radscorpion9 wrote: I don't know this seems kind of awkward. Isn't Blizzcon populated by mostly nerdy types? Isn't Metallica supposed to be for hardcore rockers? So isn't their performance going to be met with mostly awkward people who don't like to dance...well I guess its probably not going to be a real concert. Or maybe they just don't care about that stuff and I'm too sensitive
On October 23 2014 12:30 tshi wrote: I know. I just think that skrillex or deadmaus would be a better fit. They dont HAVE to use them, they can go with kanye or whomever -- in this case, they went with Metalica.
Why are people still thinking, that all gamers are a homogeneous group? Of course "we gamers" basically hear every music available! Somebody likes this, some other that, ... normal!
But interestingly a colleague of mine said the same thing, that more gamers are into dupstep. And I had the perfect theory for that (so grab your popcorn): "music" in games is actually quite "new"! In the 80s-90s, game music was "midi sound" from some sound chip on board. So of course some dip-dipidip-dipidip tunes from a gameboy have more in common with dupstep then with real music! *duck*
On October 23 2014 11:02 Wombat_NI wrote: Don't mean to be a bitch but really, if you're going to trash Blizzard's choice at least man up and suggest something in their place.
Well, I really like Skrillex and I think that him or deadmaus (or any other dubstep artist) would be a better suit for a video games event
God no, I would cancel my ticket and fandom if this ever happened...
On October 23 2014 17:39 Tresher wrote: Well I dont like TL contributors posting useless low content posts being immune to reporting.
Go you, calling out low-content posts with low-content posts.
On October 23 2014 17:51 Zetter wrote: Arguing about music artists is pointless, as we all know the only appropriate act for Blizzcon would be MC Frontalot. :p
No, seriously why the hell are we arguing about what "gamers" like?
Idunno, people like being right. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but I guess a lot of people would prefer it if others had the same opinion as them?
I personally think it's a terrible choice to go with Metallica, but since I already don't care that much about Blizzcon and am not going, it doesn't actually affect me whatsoever, so I don't see the problem. Even if I were going it wouldn't be a problem for me to just... not be at the Metallica concert.
I do have an issue with people saying Blizzard can do what they want though. I mean, yeah, they can, but they still want to appeal to their fans, so they can't pick up literally anyone and have them play. They probably couldn't have gone with an experimental jazz performance from a three-piece, y'know, cus that would royally piss off a lot of the attendees. The concert has definitely become a big part of the Blizzcon experience for people, so there are expectations to it.
There's no such thing as gamer music. Unless you count chiptune cus that totally qualifies.
Rofl this thread. They got metallica to play at blizzcon, thats pretty fuckin' great if you ask me. Even if you don't like the music at least you know its "good" music? These events always have bands playing and most of them are unknown shitters, be thankful they signed a successful band for once.
Or would you rather have Tenacious D back, the dudes who sing about random shit they think is funny?
On October 23 2014 12:30 tshi wrote: I know. I just think that skrillex or deadmaus would be a better fit. They dont HAVE to use them, they can go with kanye or whomever -- in this case, they went with Metalica.
Why are people still thinking, that all gamers are a homogeneous group? Of course "we gamers" basically hear every music available! Somebody likes this, some other that, ... normal!
But interestingly a colleague of mine said the same thing, that more gamers are into dupstep. And I had the perfect theory for that (so grab your popcorn): "music" in games is actually quite "new"! In the 80s-90s, game music was "midi sound" from some sound chip on board. So of course some dip-dipidip-dipidip tunes from a gameboy have more in common with dupstep then with real music! *duck*
Well, people have been making fun of Meatlica. longer than Dubstep: Do you know Bash.org? http://www.bash.org/?197845
And I know that it's just an opinion, I just think that there are better alternatives, but blizzard can pick anyone they want (if they think it'll be a success or whatever)
On October 23 2014 12:30 tshi wrote: I know. I just think that skrillex or deadmaus would be a better fit. They dont HAVE to use them, they can go with kanye or whomever -- in this case, they went with Metalica.
Why are people still thinking, that all gamers are a homogeneous group? Of course "we gamers" basically hear every music available! Somebody likes this, some other that, ... normal!
But interestingly a colleague of mine said the same thing, that more gamers are into dupstep. And I had the perfect theory for that (so grab your popcorn): "music" in games is actually quite "new"! In the 80s-90s, game music was "midi sound" from some sound chip on board. So of course some dip-dipidip-dipidip tunes from a gameboy have more in common with dupstep then with real music! *duck*
Well, people have been making fun of Meatlica. longer than Dubstep: Do you know Bash.org? http://www.bash.org/?197845
Well come on! That is easy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep#History When dubstep was "born" Metallica already made music for nearly 20y! Of course you could make fun of them for a longer time!
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
What drugs are you on? O_o
see, if you get past these bands one day, you'd like to think that you've evolved and got better in some sense and hence those bands must've been merely a primitive beginning to your music discoveries. It's a defense mechanism. And I fail to see how most of the "contemporary stuff" is superior to metal. You should at least evolve towards classical and jazz music to be an elitist.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
What drugs are you on? O_o
I'm not on drugs, that's why I don't listen to them. (though Pink Floyd and AC/DC <3)
On a more serious note, people need to work on their reading comprehension. Most people start listening to these bands in the 10-14 age bracket, it is perfectly normal to still listen to them after that age. At some point you can only listen to the same song so many times and you just go and look for something new. I would find it very strange for some 25 year old to say the only thing he has ever listened to in the last 15 years was Metallica.
edit: Even Justin Bieber listened to Metallica when he was a kid and uses it as inspiration now. its not a big deal.
He said: ''I like rock music, I like Guns N' Roses and Metallica. The Beatles. I like Metallica's 'Fade to Black' and 'One'. It's edgy and emotional with those instruments and electric guitars and stuff.''
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
What drugs are you on? O_o
I'm not on drugs, that's why I don't listen to them. (though Pink Floyd and AC/DC <3)
On a more serious note, people need to work on their reading comprehension. Most people start listening to these bands in the 10-14 age bracket, it is perfectly normal to still listen to them after that age. At some point you can only listen to the same song so many times and you just go and look for something new. I would find it very strange for some 25 year old to say the only thing he has ever listened to in the last 15 years was Metallica.
I find it very strange you would think that people start listening to "these bands" at 10-14, what formal studies are there to indicate that? I grew up listening to Metallica, I still listen to Metallica (hell, the same albums). Obviously I listen to a lot more also (in fact, very little metal), but Metallica are probably one of the more prevalent artists I listen to.
"Terran up the night" cover by Metallica? Im not a big fan of any band ever picked for Blizzcon, but i do enjoy Tenacious D and Metallica. It could go wrong in many ways, so i think its a great choice And staying on topic with current discussion, i like Alanis Morrissete, Pink Floyd, Charlie Parker and Metallica for more than a decade. Im not ashamed. Yes i put those in the same sentence >,< *runs away
On October 23 2014 10:39 Moxx82 wrote: Awesome. A dated, irrelevant band picked almost specifically for 35 yr old WoW nerds....
Such comments just shows that you will never please everybody.
Metallica is as good a gig as one could realistically expect. Even if you don't like them, you should be able to respect the magnitude of having such a band play at a gamecon.
Either way you twist or turn this, Metallica coming to Blizzcon is MASSIVE. Maybe all of us are not fans, but having such a big name at a nerd fest will be awesome! You closed minded ppl who are naysayers - open your mind and think for a second. Ye sure maybe you arent a hardcore rocker (Metallica isnt that hardcore btw) but wouldnt it be exciting to learn something new and hear some new music? You get a lot of bang for ur buck.
Mind you not everyone loves Darude Sandstorm....so I think this is really cool! WELL DONE BLIZZ :D
On October 23 2014 13:12 radscorpion9 wrote: I don't know this seems kind of awkward. Isn't Blizzcon populated by mostly nerdy types? Isn't Metallica supposed to be for hardcore rockers? So isn't their performance going to be met with mostly awkward people who don't like to dance...well I guess its probably not going to be a real concert. Or maybe they just don't care about that stuff and I'm too sensitive
If metallica plays at any kind of festival in Europe it's as headliner. Metallica coming to Blizzcon is huge. Most 'nerds' I know are also into that kind of music so a band like that playing at Blizzcon is not that far-fetched.
In terms of audience, Metallica fits a large age group, from teens to people in their fifties. Skrillex, on the other hand, only appeals to teenagers.
On October 23 2014 13:12 radscorpion9 wrote: I don't know this seems kind of awkward. Isn't Blizzcon populated by mostly nerdy types? Isn't Metallica supposed to be for hardcore rockers? So isn't their performance going to be met with mostly awkward people who don't like to dance...well I guess its probably not going to be a real concert. Or maybe they just don't care about that stuff and I'm too sensitive
From my experience a pretty sizable chunk of gamers are into metal. That was already the case in the 90's (when I was a teen) and heavy rock music has, as gaming, become a lot more mainstream since then (as in not only "rockers" listen to rock as it has been in previous decades). Besides Metallica is one of those bands that's so big that it draws an audience from all ages (well, 10-50 at least) and walks of life. At least around these parts they do.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
What drugs are you on? O_o
I'm not on drugs, that's why I don't listen to them. (though Pink Floyd and AC/DC <3)
On a more serious note, people need to work on their reading comprehension. Most people start listening to these bands in the 10-14 age bracket, it is perfectly normal to still listen to them after that age. At some point you can only listen to the same song so many times and you just go and look for something new. I would find it very strange for some 25 year old to say the only thing he has ever listened to in the last 15 years was Metallica.
edit: Even Justin Bieber listened to Metallica when he was a kid and uses it as inspiration now. its not a big deal.
He said: ''I like rock music, I like Guns N' Roses and Metallica. The Beatles. I like Metallica's 'Fade to Black' and 'One'. It's edgy and emotional with those instruments and electric guitars and stuff.''
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
I've never gotten the whole "well, I liked this music when I was a kid, but I outgrew them" mentality. Like that sounds any less smug than saying you listen only to "real music". Sure, my musical tastes have widened and there are some bands that don't get much play time any more, if any (so much good music, so little time), but overall the music that I liked when I was 16 is stuff that I still listen too today. Also, you say "contemporary stuff", as if those bands aren't still releasing new stuff (well, not Pink Floyd) and metal and hardrock in general aren't constantly evolving contemporary genres.
Well - my childhood heroes.. Way to go Blizzcon, way to go :D
Off-topic a bit though - Metallica has always been "not well formed" - they changed their bass guitar 4 times - with 4 times completely change of the band's "direction"
Most people love them for the Pure Thrash (I don't mean thrash as a garbage, but thrash as thrash - as the genre), I however love them for their Load/Reload/Garage-inc. days.. The problem ofc. - their bass went out of the band, got a new one, and St. Anger was pure garbage by my music standards TBH..
YES - they've made master pieces such as Enter Sandman - but they've done a lot of stuff sound good on luck too
Regardless - happy to see/hear that one of my childhood bands is still alive and kicking well (ocassionally) somewhere/somehow :D
On October 23 2014 18:27 KristofferAG wrote: I personally think it's a terrible choice to go with Metallica, but since I already don't care that much about Blizzcon and am not going, it doesn't actually affect me whatsoever, so I don't see the problem. Even if I were going it wouldn't be a problem for me to just... not be at the Metallica concert.
I do have an issue with people saying Blizzard can do what they want though. I mean, yeah, they can, but they still want to appeal to their fans, so they can't pick up literally anyone and have them play. They probably couldn't have gone with an experimental jazz performance from a three-piece, y'know, cus that would royally piss off a lot of the attendees. The concert has definitely become a big part of the Blizzcon experience for people, so there are expectations to it.
Well, compare it to the way the mods and admins run TL. Obviously, they want to make it a great forum everyone can enjoy, and I would say they succeed. However, they have this, the first TL commandment:
1. This is our house.
This is our house and you are our guests. We will do everything in our power to treat everyone with respect and accommodate everyone's wishes, but this is a private site, so when you're here, you abide by our rules. We're not obligated to observe anyone's notions of free speech or fairness, but we will try to.
It's the same with Blizzcon. They want to create an environment where everyone can have fun, and it's very successful, but in the end it's their event, so they make the decisions. They're not going to listen to every little complaint, because it's their house, so while they're trying their hardest to make a great gaming event for everyone, they don't have to listen to you, so show a bit of respect for that.
dont blame wow players, they payed for the shit we call sc2 for example. praise them, love them, kiss ever stone they touch. and ofc a lot of fun for all that go to this con. i think its boring because blizzard has not really games to fill a convention but for blizzard fan boys the perfect place i guess.
well anyway, if you love sc2 go there kiss all wow players because they dont give a fuck about your game but they keep it alive.
On October 22 2014 20:08 herMan wrote: I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. The content of this thread feels like a comment board of a Metallica post on 9gag.
Sure, Metallica peaked as a band long ago but can't we appreciate the excellent career they have made over the years? Their 80s and early 90s material are still massively popular and they seem to be pretty damn popular at least in Northern Europe. If I was already going to Blizzcon, I would be fucking pumped to see Metallica of all bands to boot.
It's just another chance for people to show of their identities. "Look at me, I don't like Metallica, I prefer Iron Maiden". or "Metallica hasn't made anything good since blablabla and I copied this opinion from someone else who I think is cool, so it must be true"
Most people eventually outgrow this sort of behaviour where they have to use other peoples work to reflect their own unique identity, as if they have one.
Have you thought of the fact that maybe some people just don't like Metallica?
No, no, that can't be true. I'm absolutely sure that anyone saying metallica is shit is copying it from someone else who they think is cool, whoever that may be..
Man, am I glad people like me have outgrown such behaviour.
I thought nobody actually gets into bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pink Floyd, AC/DC ect. after the age of 14. As in you can still like it but you outgrow the 'look at me, I like this cool real music' faze. It's used as a gateway into liking music, you just move on to contemporary stuff.
Blizzard has always had that teenage heavy-metal thing going on in its games so it fits I guess. One character has to be metal themed or there is a 'rock' concert cameo. Wonder how much it costs to book them.
I've never gotten the whole "well, I liked this music when I was a kid, but I outgrew them" mentality. Like that sounds any less smug than saying you listen only to "real music". Sure, my musical tastes have widened and there are some bands that don't get much play time any more, if any (so much good music, so little time), but overall the music that I liked when I was 16 is stuff that I still listen too today. Also, you say "contemporary stuff", as if those bands aren't still releasing new stuff (well, not Pink Floyd) and metal and hardrock in general aren't constantly evolving contemporary genres.
there's a new David Gilmour Pink Floyd album coming out next month
Should probably curb the headbangin while I'm there. Shit hurts when I go overboard, don't want to tear my bridging veins and give myself a subdural. This is going to be great!
Blizzard's big 3 universes enjoy a cult like or cult following. 20,000+ gather almost every year as an example of that enthusiasm. its called Blizzcon.
Look, you can't just go and hire Nile for your gaming competition. The entire venue will get destroyed. That's why it's Metallica and not something way, way, heavier.
But maybe...maybe if they gradually work their way into it, Blizzard will someday hire Behemoth. And I will so be there for that!
I always thought Metallica were redneck trash, but I love their music, at least the old albums and Death Magnetic.
Once you get over the fact that they called a song 'Call of Ktulu' to avoid legal dispute and then the pants off of a twelve year old for downloading their music, you'll realise that this is good news for Blizzcon.
I barely play or even follow StarCraft 2 anymore, though I used to play and watch streams religiously. I'm going to get Blizzcon pass to watch metallica, and then I'll probably also watch the SC to see how the game has progressed.
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Their entire catalog is good shit.
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