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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:46 zeo wrote: Please show me proof it is operational and had all the side systems necessary to take out a moving aircraft at 10km. Well they claimed they shot down a cargo plane earlier today. Those fly at about that altitude. You have been sort of dancing around that report from earlier today that they removed. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:49 Nyxisto wrote: I can show you proof for Rebel leaders claiming that they shot down a plane minutes before the crash happenened https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/489802664264212480/photo/1 yeah i dont dunno how they gonna cover that up. it would have been confusing and easier to manipulate if no post exited but the fact taht rebels claiming a shootdown right before a civilian plane gone missing is really irreversible. but then again, politics dont really care for truth. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:50 zeo wrote: Source: Biased twitter account with a screenshot of a fake social media account. Dont talk to zeo. It's useless. Even tho investigations would say that rebels shot that plane down. Zeo would call it just propaganda | ||
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farvacola
United States18826 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Dont talk to zeo. It's useless. Even tho investigations would say that rebels shot that plane down. Zeo would call it just propaganda I mean, all the things I don't agree with are propaganda created by the people who don't agree with me. Its the best way to view the world. Easy and simple. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:35 Steveling wrote: http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/ This is huge. Please do not quote Russian state sponsored media outlets. Just do some googling and then look for other sources please. https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=RT reporter quits | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:54 farvacola wrote: Zeo is a star of Putin's gymnastics team; those concerned with actual discussion best leave him to his anti-western antics. He is an exceptional gymnast. So far today he has questioned the legitimacy of Itar-tass articles that were published during the period where he considered Itar-tass to be an exemplary news provider and stated that the rebels would be unable to operate pretty standard military equipment because they are no more sophisticated than "criminals". | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6284 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:58 Jormundr wrote: He is an exceptional gymnast. So far today he has questioned the legitimacy of Itar-tass articles that were published during the period where he considered Itar-tass to be an exemplary news provider and stated that the rebels would be unable to operate pretty standard military equipment because they are no more sophisticated than "criminals". I'm sorry that I asked for sources when ludicrous claims are made. You have people who laugh at RT being used as a source yet when something said in a one paragraph article fits their agenda, suddenly 'stop the presses, most reliable shit ever written'. Even in the Itar-tass article it clearly says it is unclear if the system is operational. SAM systems are not 'pretty standard military equipment'. And stop with the personal attacks. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Russia's rebels BUK missle system escaping Torez/Sneznoe area Russian media is broadcasting dead passenger passport photos including bodies  | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
But nato does. Assuming it wasn't an accident by either party. User was warned for this post | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:07 Steveling wrote: The thing is that the russians have no reason at all to do this. But nato does. Assuming it wasn't an accident by either party. Treating this as a deliberate act to target a civilian airliner is farfetched. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:07 Steveling wrote: The thing is that the russians have no reason at all to do this. But nato does. Assuming it wasn't an accident by either party. No side have any reason to do this. | ||
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8882
2718 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:09 ahswtini wrote: Treating this as a deliberate act to target a civilian airliner is farfetched. Some claim that Bush knocked down WTC... | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:07 Steveling wrote: The thing is that the russians have no reason at all to do this. But nato does. Assuming it wasn't an accident by either party. I find the word "accident" used in this context questionable at best. You don't "accidentally" snipe an airliner 11km up in the air. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:07 Steveling wrote: The thing is that the russians have no reason at all to do this. But nato does. Assuming it wasn't an accident by either party. Everything so far points to sheer incompetence on someone's part. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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