EPTMalaysian airliner shot down over Eastern Ukraine - Page 13
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SleepyDreams
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Steveling
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mainerd
United States347 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:10 Zealously wrote: I find the word "accident" used in this context questionable at best. You don't "accidentally" snipe an airliner 11km up in the air. it can happn accidentally in fact http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1359353/Ukraine-admits-it-shot-down-Russian-airliner.html | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:13 Steveling wrote: So why did I get warned since everyone agrees with me? xD because your post is idiotic. The rebels have motiv to shoot down Ukrainian aircraft. We have social media proof of a rebel leader claiming to have exactly done that. Because the rebels are bloody idiots they hit a civil plane without even noticing it. No one here besides zeo is agreeing with your narrative. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
liveuamap.com is reporting that seperatists are not allowing emergency vehicles access to the site, and are planning on handing over the flight-data recorders to Moscow. Additionally there are reports (and photos) of SA-11 BUKs in the towns of Torez and Snizhne, including a photo of a supposed missile-track. BBC's Moscow correspondent is now claiming that 'local police' will be conducting the preliminary investigation. Dutch news sources have reported that the bodies are being looted... | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:07 Steveling wrote: The thing is that the russians have no reason at all to do this. But nato does. This should actually be bannable holy shit. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:13 Steveling wrote: So why did I get warned since everyone agrees with me? xD Who agrees with you? Stop making conspiratorial claims. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:13 Steveling wrote: So why did I get warned since everyone agrees with me? xD People don't agree with you. And you didn't read the mod note that says "don't throw around baseless accusations without a source". | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:03 zeo wrote: I'm sorry that I asked for sources when ludicrous claims are made. You have people who laugh at RT being used as a source yet when something said in a one paragraph article fits their agenda, suddenly 'stop the presses, most reliable shit ever written'. Even in the Itar-tass article it clearly says it is unclear if the system is operational. SAM systems are not 'pretty standard military equipment'. And stop with the personal attacks. Aw run out of steam already? I've made fun of the way you argue; that's not a personal attack. You are the one who has constantly "stopped the presses" by consistently saying that contradictory information provided solely by Itar-tass/RussiaToday is only possible truth. The fact that you now attempt to discredit the sources you once praised so highly is why you're being called a mental gymnast. The itar-tass article says it's unclear if the system was operational over two weeks ago. It is not at all 'ludicrous' to claim that their operational status became less 'unclear' in the 18 days between that article being written and today. SAM systems are pretty standard. NK probably even has them. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:13 Steveling wrote: So why did I get warned since everyone agrees with me? xD We do? | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:13 Steveling wrote: So why did I get warned since everyone agrees with me? xD The reason for your warning is available right on top of this thread. Whether or not people agree with you is of less import. If you have any further questions about moderation, please take them to Website Feedback. | ||
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zanga
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Why should it be bannable? You should read more history and you will find that "false flag stuff" occurs more often than one might think. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
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skaffaNL
Netherlands55 Posts
I've seen a couple of Dutch pasports on twitter already, 2 out of 3 are children. it makes me sick to my stomach, hope the people who did it will burn in hell | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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DrCooper
Germany261 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 18 2014 04:21 jcarlsoniv wrote: Could anyone give me a quick rundown of what "false flag" is? False flag (or black flag) describes covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them. Operations carried during peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists." | ||
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Duka08
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