EPTMalaysian airliner shot down over Eastern Ukraine - Page 10
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Grettin
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{CC}StealthBlue
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Anyway, hope this new crash doesn't have worldwide consequences, and i hope that this time, people will know what really happened. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: But there were airlines few hours ago traveling the same route. All the time | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:15 [SXG]Phantom wrote: this makes me remember, that we never knew what happened to the other plane of malasya right? , the one that dissapeared. By now it pretty clear they are hiding something (us goverment can confirm there wasn't an explotion, but cant say where the plane is? if they can confirm it didn't explode, is because they saw it, or were monitoring the area, so they could more or less know where the plane is.. its been months come on, btw im not saying is US fault or anything, just that the gorverments in general know more about that). Anyway, hope this new crash doesn't have worldwide consequences, and i hope that this time, people will know what really happened. If it's so easy go search the damn ocean yourself. | ||
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Enzymatic
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DarkEnergy
Netherlands542 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:12 Grettin wrote: https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/489828808972042240 On July 18 2014 03:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: https://twitter.com/hdevreij/status/489795929940430848 All the time Sound so legit, and what did they receive upon entering that restricted airspace ? Complete silence and then a rocket up their ass. Would be fun to explain the same concept to the Russians when they probe NATO air defenses. Instead of escorting we just shoot them out of the sky and say your aircraft was in a restricted area unsuitable for russian aircraft | ||
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Enzymatic
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rudimentalfeelthelov
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/489795131542102016/photo/1 | ||
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Draconicfire
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Random()
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:44 Kennigit wrote: If anyone hears how many German or French citzens were on board, please reply. Germany and France have been the most reluctant to impose tougher RU sanctions on energy/arms sectors (Germany gets 30% of its gas from Russia). It's hugely important going forward in the crisis. Whatever the case, this will probably be the defining moment of the entire conflict. What makes you say that? The rebels will blame Ukrainian government, Ukrainian government will blame the rebels, and even if anyone is able to prove that it was the rebels, then what? For all intents and purposes they're just a bunch of criminals with no ties to Russia. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:27 Draconicfire wrote: How are these passports in such pristine condition? The pictures I've seen of the wreck look terrible. Hard to imagine the passports made it out unscathed. Picture, page 5. Passport would easily survive that. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:21 DarkEnergy wrote: Sound so legit, and what did they receive upon entering that restricted airspace ? Complete silence and then a rocket up their ass. Would be fun to explain the same concept to the Russians when they probe NATO air defenses. Instead of escorting we just shoot them out of the sky and say your aircraft was in a restricted area unsuitable for russian aircraft I meant that there were all the time planes using same route. Now in that tweet you can see that they changed their route. | ||
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Steveling
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This is huge. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:28 Random() wrote: What makes you say that? The rebels will blame Ukrainian government, Ukrainian government will blame the rebels, and even if anyone is able to prove that it was the rebels, then what? For all intents and purposes they're just a bunch of criminals with no ties to Russia. People seem to think a bunch of criminals can operate half a billion dollars worth of equipment that takes years of training to use and which might or might not be operational. The only side we know have BUK systems fully operational in the area are the Kiev military. Buk missile systems can be traced from space easily with NATO/Russian satellites so we should know very soon where the missiles were fired from. | ||
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Plansix
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:36 zeo wrote: People seem to think a bunch of criminals can operate half a billion dollars worth of equipment that takes years of training to use and which might or might not be operational. The only side we know have BUK systems fully operational in the area are the Kiev military. Buk missile systems can be traced from space easily with NATO/Russian satellites so we should know very soon where the missiles were fired from. What's this then? Ah, you mean they couldn't possible be able to operate them? I see your point. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:35 Steveling wrote: http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/ This is huge. Why would putin be there? + Show Spoiler + “I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time,” a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity. "The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added. | ||
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
On July 18 2014 03:35 Steveling wrote: http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/ This is huge. That is nothing but russian propaganda; same route my ass. CNN is reporting all kinds of fabricated crap conspiracy stories russia is spewing out to save its reputation. All of these gestures "Putin was flying the same route, may have been targetted" all came directly from russian sources. | ||
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