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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 21:42:50
May 09 2014 05:19 GMT
#1
This chump doesn't know how to make a thread.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/450114-are-asian-guys-inferior-to-white-guys
So i'll make one for him.

Here is relevant information regarding how various genders and races perceive each other in terms of dating desirability for heterosexual relationships.

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The data shown above come from the Facebook dating app, Are You Interested(AYI), which works like this: Users in search of someone for a date or for sex flip through profiles of other users and, for each one, click either “yes” (I like what I see) or “skip” (show me the next profile). When the answer is “yes,” the other user is notified and has the opportunity to respond. It’s very similar to another dating app, Tinder...

AYI analyzed some 2.4 million heterosexual interactions—meaning every time a user clicked either “yes” or “skip”—to come up with these statistics. Its users skew older than Tinder’s—about two-thirds of AYI users are older than 35, according to a spokesperson.

Yellowish colors are for “neutral” and red and green indicate “strong preference”.
data taken from OKCupid's dating website
On May 10 2014 02:28 semantics wrote:
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On May 09 2014 23:01 lilopuppy wrote:
Ouch... I don't understand the graphs though.

The 1st one is just the rate at which people hit Yes on a dating app, a high volume one that matches you mostly based on location to each other.

The other two are read as:
On the left you have the gender and race of the person sending a message
On the top you have the recipient to the message.
Where two rows intersect is how often a sender of race(left side) got a reply back from race y(top side).

The numbers on the perimeter is a weighted average basically.
The avg some group seeks a response and gets it(right side) or
The avg some group responds(bottom).
The avg is weighted as each racial group aren't equally sending to every other group.

The colors are indicating stronger or weaker response to the avg of all groups(the bottom right number).


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The data shows the reply rate by a male sender. How females view males different races. In desirability to date. Male sender to Female Respondent

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Here is Female sender to Male respondent. No surprise men are de-fucking-lighted any woman is interested in them.

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This one i find interesting as it seems women are conditioned more to preference their own race as oppose to their male counterparts

Good news is that although our initial response is well racist, our actual chances when it comes to compatibility is well very close to agnostic when it comes to race. Below is match % rate between races. Too bad we choose who we interact with and thus filter by race
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Tends established
  • Women get three times the interactions men do.
  • All men seemed to be more interested in people outside their race.
  • Black men and women get the lowest response rates to their messages.
  • All women except black women are most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women.
  • Black women respond the most.
  • White men get more replies from almost every group.
  • White women prefer white men; Asian and Latina women prefer them even more exclusively.


What do you think spur these developments?

I'll blame everyone's old ass racist parents!

Even if they didn't come from the United States, You want to hear some blatant racism all you have to do is talk to 1st generation immigrants that come from places outside of western Europe who've at least learn how to be subversive, like most American who live in major cities have. Growing up with that even if you disagree at an intellectual level you may still find it to be your initial response.

We all know TL inclination is towards yellow fever
relevant links:
http://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/
http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/how-races-and-religions-match-in-online-dating/#match-discussion
http://gawker.com/is-there-a-biological-reason-for-sexually-preferring-a-1507424247
Anyone interested here is for homosexual coupling:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/same-sex-data-race-reply/
related tl topics:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/13327-why-are-asian-girls-attractive-yellow-fever
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/72178-yellow-fever
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 09 2014 05:43 GMT
#2
You should like the Nada's body thread to the TL inclination towards yellow fever.

Anyways, very interesting post. I can't watch the videos or click the links since I am at work but there is some very interesting numbers here. Gonna check the rest of the stuff out at home later
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hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
May 09 2014 06:09 GMT
#3
Young Korean boys most gosu high apm.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 09 2014 06:19 GMT
#4
if the world became globalized when the asian culture was dominant (instead of this alternate universe, though, we have a situation where most of the world is becoming assimilated into the western meta-narrative), you could bet that things would be bit different.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
May 09 2014 06:29 GMT
#5
Still amazed at how small the numbers in the first graph are. I think more than anything else, this just says that people on the internet have become exceptionally picky.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 09 2014 06:41 GMT
#6
On May 09 2014 14:43 Orcasgt24 wrote:
You should like the Nada's body thread to the TL inclination towards yellow fever.

Anyways, very interesting post. I can't watch the videos or click the links since I am at work but there is some very interesting numbers here. Gonna check the rest of the stuff out at home later
This is Nada's Body Theory(TM) vindicated.
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Mina
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
May 09 2014 06:42 GMT
#7
LOL, well I can detect yellow fever within a mile radius. So incredibly off-putting.
That which yields is not always weak.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
May 09 2014 06:54 GMT
#8
Asian women having a higher response rate to White men, rather than Asian men is a bit surprising to me. I was always under the impression Asian culture looked down heavily on interracial relationships.
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Mina
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
May 09 2014 07:12 GMT
#9
^ I'm guessing they performed the survey in multifaceted America, rather than in respective countries.
That which yields is not always weak.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
May 09 2014 07:12 GMT
#10
On May 09 2014 15:54 DonKey_ wrote:
Asian women having a higher response rate to White men, rather than Asian men is a bit surprising to me. I was always under the impression Asian culture looked down heavily on interracial relationships.


In Southern California, you'll see Asian women with practically any other race BESIDE Asian men.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 08:19:19
May 09 2014 07:42 GMT
#11
On May 09 2014 15:29 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Still amazed at how small the numbers in the first graph are. I think more than anything else, this just says that people on the internet have become exceptionally picky.

I assume it comes with the app's design considering you are not seeking and sending a message; as much as getting their profile then hitting yes or next. So it's a high volume sorta deal.

I wanted data on other dating websites but i just went with the easiest one to find. But didn't find anything with a lazy search for stats from badoo or plenty of fish.
On May 09 2014 16:12 Mina wrote:
^ I'm guessing they performed the survey in multifaceted America, rather than in respective countries.

https://www.quantcast.com/okcupid.com/traffic/mobileweb?country=US
Well okcupids traffic is vastly US which will skew the results. Yet, there is some showing outside of the US notably the UK and Canada. Shame i couldn't find any data from badoo which would give a good picture of europe.
On May 09 2014 16:56 Shiragaku wrote:
Would it be fair to say that many people view Asian men as eunuchs?

Rounded faces are more attributed to feminine qualities than masculine qualities in western cultures, which probably hurts.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 09 2014 07:56 GMT
#12
Would it be fair to say that many people view Asian men as eunuchs?
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 08:05:42
May 09 2014 08:04 GMT
#13
白人看不懂 on his shirt hahahaha..

A random stab as this with some generalisations:
Asian people are "shy" and less assertive due to their culture. The "shyness" in asian males have are interpreted as not masculine, however a "shy" and less assertive girl is seen as very feminine and desirable.

How is the match% being calculated?
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 09 2014 08:16 GMT
#14
On May 09 2014 17:04 JieXian wrote:
白人看不懂 on his shirt hahahaha..

A random stab as this with some generalisations:
Asian people are "shy" and less assertive due to their culture. The "shyness" in asian males have are interpreted as not masculine, however a "shy" and less assertive girl is seen as very feminine and desirable.

How is the match% being calculated?

A match percentage between two people is a condensed, yet statistically valid, expression of how well they might get along. 75% is very high, 45% is very low, and 60.2% is the site-wide average. If, for example, a couple match each other 71%, it means they are likely to like each other, based on their own individual definitions of what makes a person cool, sexy, and attractive, not ours. I point this out now so that, below, when we claim that Jewish women are easier to get along with than Christians, you don’t blame us, you blame Jesus.
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/how-races-and-religions-match-in-online-dating/#match-discussion
http://www.okcupid.com/help/match-percentages
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 08:36:01
May 09 2014 08:34 GMT
#15
So basically the percentages are independent of race and looks, but focuses merely on the persons character, am I right?

How are the results surprising at all when the algorithm ignores the biases in the judgement of other people by their looks? People are conformists in what they say that they are and in what they say that they want.

You can even match 2 heterosexual guys together that way and say that they are a match.

Or am I wrong?
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 09:14:29
May 09 2014 09:12 GMT
#16
On May 09 2014 17:34 JieXian wrote:
So basically the percentages are independent of race and looks, but focuses merely on the persons character, am I right?

How are the results surprising at all when the algorithm ignores the biases in the judgement of other people by their looks? People are conformists in what they say that they are and in what they say that they want.

You can even match 2 heterosexual guys together that way and say that they are a match.

Or am I wrong?

I'm not sure on what metrics okcupid uses, but i actually wouldn't be surprised if preferences such as interested in white girls would be used in their metrics. Their metric is just what they figured out to give the best results to finding a possible match that will work. It all depends on their self reported quizzes and their profile raiting system they set up to get matches along with w.e the site data tell them. A good self reported test will account for commonly lied for questions, even the lies are important data points you just have to make sure you can catch them and treat them as such.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
May 09 2014 09:58 GMT
#17
I prefer Asian women with a Black booty.
Why is there no category for that?
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 09 2014 10:16 GMT
#18
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201206/eternal-curves

In light of this article I'd say the results are hardly surprising when it comes to the preferences of men.
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 10:30:32
May 09 2014 10:18 GMT
#19
On May 09 2014 15:54 DonKey_ wrote:
Asian women having a higher response rate to White men, rather than Asian men is a bit surprising to me. I was always under the impression Asian culture looked down heavily on interracial relationships.

Well, data for Asians is skewed though. This was research done via a Facebook app, and since Facebook is banned in China they are missing out on a large demographic.

Edit: it also depends if the research is done in a largely multi-ethnic cultures such as the United States, or in a areas that are much more homogenous, such as much of Europe and Asia.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 09 2014 10:38 GMT
#20
On May 09 2014 19:18 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 15:54 DonKey_ wrote:
Asian women having a higher response rate to White men, rather than Asian men is a bit surprising to me. I was always under the impression Asian culture looked down heavily on interracial relationships.

Well, data for Asians is skewed though. This was research done via a Facebook app, and since Facebook is banned in China they are missing out on a large demographic.

China in general is just likely to have very different cultural divides and mostly with chinese nationalism, but...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1290593/Chinese-companies-rent-white-foreigners.html
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2010-06/25/content_10021886.htm
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/12/foreigners-become-unlikely-chinese-tv-stars.html
hard to say but i wouldn't be surprised at all if even in china white males are preferred over asian males.
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