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On November 22 2013 07:57 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 07:03 jacevedo wrote:
I was really hoping for Carlsen to win, but I never imagined him going essentially 3-0 and crushing Anand so hard. I believe Anand was actually terrified of Carlsen. The commentators always called Anand relaxed and not showing emotions, but what I saw were a lot of nervous twitches and glances at Carlsen throughout this series. The blunders Anand has made are extremely rare for a player of his caliber and suggest a compromised psychological state.
In any case, Carlsen has clearly shown himself to be the strongest chess player in the world, and I suspect as time goes on and he continues to improve he will go down as one of the greatest players in history. The rate at which he plays exact Houdini recommended lines, or can suck wins against super GM's out of objectively drawn positions is incredible. I think it just has to do with Magnus's personality and his young age. Magnus is so calm and relaxed, and he makes it look easy, while being 22 years old. Vishy is twice his age, and has multiple championships, and still is made to look like a fool in front of the world. Even he knows inside that he is inferior to magnus in chess, and those nervous twitches, mannerisms are surfacing. So all vishy can tell himself is to just keep doing his best and give some good games!
On average, analytical skills peak during people's mid-twenties... after that there's a continuous decline. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Anand himself was better at judging unorthodox positions 20 years ago.
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About to begin!
Many people say that it will be a quick remis today, but I also think Anand could just try something crazy today, as he has nothing to lose!
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It seems we get another game today, and Anand doesn't just take the quick draw
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Sicilian with a c4 after the center pawn exchange. That looks a bit aggressive from Carlsen
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On November 21 2013 23:20 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 22:58 Danglars wrote:To move on from my facepalm at the tweet question from the interview, I'd like to inject this one from Nakamura's twitter: Keep those attacks going, don't recapture with pawns gives white more and more dangerous attacks? I only just got back and haven't had the chance to look at the game, but when Carlsen's part of the game, it's usually best to take Naka's suggestions with a grain of salt. He's a great player of course, but I've seen him make quite a few suggestions, always in Carlsen's games, that are just outright refuted by the computer. f6 back in game 4 comes to mind. I think he likes to feel that he understands the position more deeply than Carlsen and his opponent and likes to imply he would've done better vs Carlsen in the same position.
You really should look at that game position. There's a big question of what led to white giving black such great counterplay on the queenside.
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Well the comparison between Justin Bieber and Matt Damon is like choosing between the abyss and hell.
Don't thing Magnus is going to like it
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On November 22 2013 19:20 DoubIe_O wrote:
Well the comparison between Justin Bieber and Matt Damon is like choosing between the abyss and hell.
Don't thing Magnus is going to like it
I don't think there has been a single good question so far.
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As a casual viewer i really enjoy Lawrence and Tanya as commentators.
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Question, the age difference is quite big, wont the extra 20 years (i assumed they were practice filled years) give Anand a much bigger advantage?
Or is chess not like that :S ? I don't know much about it but this is fun to watch.
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a4 doesn't look like Carlsen wants to settle for a draw
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12 games is just too short for a sport like chess. IMO there should be in the very least 18 classical games. In the first championship match between Karpov and Kasparov, Karpov took 4-0 lead, but Kasparov managed to even the score. In the current format this is impossible.
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I understand that this is a big deal for India and chess, but I wish there was a bit less of self-congratulating every single game (especially with Polgar). Commentate the position, damnit.
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This position looks like a draw. Wish I could stay up longer to watch but I got class tomorrow/today 
I want to stay and watch history be made ahhh
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Regarding the commentators: They should have followed what they did at the candidates. Trent+Short+different guest gm's every day. The commentary there was superb.
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I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.
Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.
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This link: TCEC really helps. Anything less than 0.5 is basically an even position (-0.5 to 0.5).
Also, go through the thread and pretty much everyone call draws including in the matches that weren't.
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On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.
Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.
Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.
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On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.
Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6. Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.
it has been a very pleasurable experience that the commentators on stream rarely ever use engines. they also don't call a win, lose, or draw until it seems definite.
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On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.
Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6. Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.
Probably 99% of the people would also lose almost every position that is considered a draw vs. a skilled chessplayer. Sometimes its really annoying that people but also commentators quickly call positions drawish. Every decisive game from the championship was called "drawish" at one point.
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It would be nice if Carlsen would play for the win now.
What would be better than finishing it off with a win.
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