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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 11:41:06
November 22 2013 11:37 GMT
#1701
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

P.S.: I still remember your post back in 2005:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32457#1
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 22 2013 11:38 GMT
#1702
Vishy's knight looks rather misplaced to me.
And just as I write, computer says Anand committed another major blunder. +1.63 on chessbomb (stockfish).
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
November 22 2013 11:39 GMT
#1703
Carlsen looks befuddled.
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 22 2013 11:39 GMT
#1704
Heh, just tuned in. Apparently, Vishy continues the trend of making dubious Queen moves.

Even Magnus twitched in disbelief upon ...Qg5.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 22 2013 11:40 GMT
#1705
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

Assuming Carlsen wins, I hope eventually we see a Carlsen vs Nakamura match. The hype for that would be incredible haha
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 22 2013 11:41 GMT
#1706
Jerry is fun to listen to.
ffxiv enjoyer
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 22 2013 11:41 GMT
#1707
Welp. This isn't good for Vishy.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18633 Posts
November 22 2013 11:42 GMT
#1708
On November 22 2013 20:40 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

Assuming Carlsen wins, I hope eventually we see a Carlsen vs Nakamura match. The hype for that would be incredible haha


Nakamura cant beat Carlsen can he
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 11:43:36
November 22 2013 11:42 GMT
#1709
Woah, both making less than optimal moves here?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 22 2013 11:43 GMT
#1710
On November 22 2013 20:40 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

Assuming Carlsen wins, I hope eventually we see a Carlsen vs Nakamura match. The hype for that would be incredible haha


I think that he is the only one that can "take down Sauron".
mind mind mind mind mind mind
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 22 2013 11:43 GMT
#1711
On November 22 2013 20:40 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

Assuming Carlsen wins, I hope eventually we see a Carlsen vs Nakamura match. The hype for that would be incredible haha

Would be very cool indeed, but objectively speaking, Kramnik or Caruana have better chance for becoming next challengers. The current trend in chess seriously favors cautious players with resourceful positional style. Unfortunately...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 22 2013 11:43 GMT
#1712
On November 22 2013 20:42 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:40 Plexa wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

Assuming Carlsen wins, I hope eventually we see a Carlsen vs Nakamura match. The hype for that would be incredible haha


Nakamura cant beat Carlsen can he

I sincerely doubt it. But
a) America
b) Trash talk
Would make it entertaining
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 11:45:15
November 22 2013 11:45 GMT
#1713
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

P.S.: I still remember your post back in 2005:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32457#1


Topalov recent form is very good (few days ago he won best score on 1st board on european championship), but I dont think he has what it takes to be challenge the world title once again. He had to win when he played in Sofia vs Anand, but now I think its too late for him.

Cant see Nakamura winning over Carlsen. I really hope Kramnik is the next challenger.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
November 22 2013 11:46 GMT
#1714
I was like "A draw is enough for Carlsen, WTF is he doing", then I realized it was Anand who was playing the black pieces.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 22 2013 11:47 GMT
#1715
Off-topic: Why isnt there the melody amber tournament anymore? They mentioned it yesterday.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
November 22 2013 11:47 GMT
#1716
On November 22 2013 20:43 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:42 sharkie wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:40 Plexa wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

Assuming Carlsen wins, I hope eventually we see a Carlsen vs Nakamura match. The hype for that would be incredible haha


Nakamura cant beat Carlsen can he

I sincerely doubt it. But
a) America
b) Trash talk
Would make it entertaining


And Nakamuras explanations why he is far better despite losing would probably be funny.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 22 2013 11:47 GMT
#1717
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 11:49:05
November 22 2013 11:48 GMT
#1718
On November 22 2013 20:47 Mafe wrote:
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.


Is Chuky playing in the next challenger? He made the last one very entertaining :-D.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
November 22 2013 11:50 GMT
#1719
On November 22 2013 20:48 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:47 Mafe wrote:
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.


Is Chuky playing in the next challenger? He made the last one very entertaining :-D.

No, he isn't. Here's the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2014
But at least we have Svidler, I love his press conferences.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 22 2013 11:52 GMT
#1720
On November 22 2013 20:50 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:48 JazVM wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:47 Mafe wrote:
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.


Is Chuky playing in the next challenger? He made the last one very entertaining :-D.

No, he isn't. Here's the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2014
But at least we have Svidler, I love his press conferences.


Somedays I think he is a dick, some I really like him. Not sure about this guy. Rooting for Kramnik or Aronian!
mind mind mind mind mind mind
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