EPTOn November 22 2013 22:32 mdb wrote:
carlsen can defend with fxg5
what I mean is 46. Ng8+ Kf7 47.Nxh6+ Kg7 48.fxg5
carlsen can defend with fxg5
what I mean is 46. Ng8+ Kf7 47.Nxh6+ Kg7 48.fxg5
48. ... e5 how does white proceed without losing?
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Figgy
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48. ... e5 how does white proceed without losing? | ||
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mdb
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On November 22 2013 22:35 Figgy wrote: 48. ... e5 how does white proceed without losing? I would play h4 | ||
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urboss
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"The fact that the evaluation drops sharply on Vishy's 2nd best moves gives an indication of how difficult this endgame is." | ||
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Figgy
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Sorry assuming Kf8 instead of Kf7 Kf7 would be a blunder I think? gives pawn away with tempo | ||
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mihajovics
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 he is one of the greatest talents ever to have touched the black and white pieces, so sad he couldn't give Carlsen a run for his money. on the other hand, he did kind of reach everything there was to reach already, maybe it was hard for him to get motivated enough. at the age of 44, after 40 years of playing chess... it really is a miracle that he hasn't burned out yet, he must have an incredible deep emotional connection with the game, something most of us probably won't ever experience with anything.. I want to remember him as the ferocious tiger he was e.g. during Anand-Kramnik. | ||
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Figgy
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On November 22 2013 22:35 mdb wrote: yeah I guess with e5 anand wins the pawn race Looking at the computer lines it's very even if white sacs his knight to stop the pawn race What a nuts endgame, seriously. Will be upsetting if Anand blunders this | ||
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wingpawn
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mdb
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On November 22 2013 22:43 wingpawn wrote: How about 46. fxg5 hxg5 47. Nh7 g4 48. h4 - White creates passed pawn on h4 and the Knight gets away to g5. I think 48...Nf1 refutes this | ||
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Figgy
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On November 22 2013 22:43 wingpawn wrote: How about 46. fxg5 hxg5 47. Nh7 g4 48. h4 - White creates passed pawn on h4 and the Knight gets away to g5. 46. fxg5 Nf1 Same problem? White cannot promote kingside | ||
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Figgy
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Or this to, I think black promotes faster than white possibly? | ||
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urboss
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Even Komodo now jumped over to fxg5 | ||
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mdb
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On November 22 2013 22:49 urboss wrote: Houdini now liking fxg5 after quite some time can you post the whole line, please. I`m curious | ||
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urboss
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On November 22 2013 22:50 mdb wrote: can you post the whole line, please. I`m curious http://tcec.chessdom.com/anand-carlsen-2013-live.php | ||
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Figgy
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On November 22 2013 22:50 wingpawn wrote: Okay, then not going for any material but just playing Nh5, protecting his Kingside structure, followed by Kb6 etc.? That's my suggestion tbh. Houdini's fxg5 line is absurdly complicated with 100 more options thrown in into an eventually drawn endgame. You can pretty much take that with a grain of salt unless you are literally Houdini. | ||
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