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wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 22 2013 11:54 GMT
#1721
On November 22 2013 20:50 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:48 JazVM wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:47 Mafe wrote:
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.


Is Chuky playing in the next challenger? He made the last one very entertaining :-D.

No, he isn't. Here's the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2014
But at least we have Svidler, I love his press conferences.

Out of those, I think only Kramnik and Aronian have a shot against Magnus. I think Levon would be excellent challenge for Carlsen, since he is so strong in complicated endgames and quiet positions. But Kramnik seems like a worthy option too.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
November 22 2013 11:55 GMT
#1722
On November 22 2013 20:47 Mafe wrote:
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.


hahaha, so Nakamura is that bad XD
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 22 2013 11:58 GMT
#1723
On November 22 2013 20:55 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:47 Mafe wrote:
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.


hahaha, so Nakamura is that bad XD


No he isn't
mind mind mind mind mind mind
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 22 2013 12:02 GMT
#1724
On November 22 2013 20:47 Mafe wrote:
With all this talk about the next challenger, keep in mind that the field for the next candidates tournament is already determined, and Nakamura isn't in it. So 2 years at least, but maybe most of you were talking about the not-so-near future anyway.

I'm aware of that, hence why I said "eventually"
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 22 2013 12:09 GMT
#1725
Seems like the Engine on the official website is drunk, after Qxd6 it's suggests the brilliant e5!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
November 22 2013 12:22 GMT
#1726
On November 22 2013 21:09 Nyxisto wrote:
Seems like the Engine on the official website is drunk, after Qxd6 it's suggests the brilliant e5!

Your human mind just can't comprehend the beauty
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 22 2013 12:30 GMT
#1727
This endgame seems quite tricky
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 22 2013 12:41 GMT
#1728
Am I wrong to think that black is kinda dead here? Maybe he can tie it somehow but he needs to win or he loses the event right?
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 22 2013 12:48 GMT
#1729
On November 22 2013 21:41 DwD wrote:
Am I wrong to think that black is kinda dead here? Maybe he can tie it somehow but he needs to win or he loses the event right?


I guess that assessment is somewhat accurate. There is that small chance that Carlsen makes a blunder, but nothing would point to that.
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 22 2013 13:00 GMT
#1730
On November 22 2013 21:41 DwD wrote:
Am I wrong to think that black is kinda dead here? Maybe he can tie it somehow but he needs to win or he loses the event right?


sadly, you're pretty much dead on...
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 22 2013 13:08 GMT
#1731
On November 22 2013 20:37 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 20:23 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 20:17 Kishin2 wrote:
I'm not skilled enough to identify when a position "looks like a draw." How does everyone do it? Is it "drawish" because the material is equal and the pawn structures are similar? But white is more developed and has more control of the center and has pawns pushed up more.

Edit: I was thinking Carlsen 27. Rg3... 28. Qxh6.


Basically 99% of the people who claim certain position is a draw or a win for one of the players do the following: turn on their chess engine, wait 1 minute, see the evaluation, post on the internet.

So what do you think mdb, any chance Topalov could be the next challenger? At least he qualified for the Candidate tournament. Does he still have what it takes?

P.S.: I still remember your post back in 2005:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32457#1

So sad to read a post discussing Fischer when he was still alive. I was so shocked at his death.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 22 2013 13:22 GMT
#1732
People were joking here about Magnus getting nerfed so it will be hard for him. I just found out that Carlsen's first name is Sven. Oh yeah...
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 13:34:57
November 22 2013 13:23 GMT
#1733
Hm, I don't really like that from Anand. 43...g5 44. fxg5 hxg5 45. h4 creates outside passed pawn for Black.

Magnus played 44. Ne8+. I guess now Anand has to choose between letting White King forward or dropping e6-pawn after 45. Ng7. Doesn't look good for Future Ex-World Champion.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 22 2013 13:26 GMT
#1734
Instead of just repeating Magnus plays on, i'm a fanboy
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 22 2013 13:28 GMT
#1735
hm doesnt anand just loses a pawn after Ng8+?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
November 22 2013 13:30 GMT
#1736
On November 22 2013 22:28 mdb wrote:
hm doesnt anand just loses a pawn after Ng8+?


knight is trapped
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 13:32:23
November 22 2013 13:31 GMT
#1737
On November 22 2013 22:28 mdb wrote:
hm doesnt anand just loses a pawn after Ng8+?


If he plays Ng8+ he sacs the knight in less moves than it would take for black to chase him to Nh7. It also gives black good chances to make a passed pawn fast enough to promote before white can take the queen side pawns.

Very difficult position...
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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 13:34:10
November 22 2013 13:32 GMT
#1738
On November 22 2013 22:30 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 22:28 mdb wrote:
hm doesnt anand just loses a pawn after Ng8+?


knight is trapped


carlsen can defend with fxg5

what I mean is 46. Ng8+ Kf7 47.Nxh6+ Kg7 48.fxg5
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 13:34:23
November 22 2013 13:33 GMT
#1739
On November 22 2013 22:32 mdb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 22:30 sharkie wrote:
On November 22 2013 22:28 mdb wrote:
hm doesnt anand just loses a pawn after Ng8+?


knight is trapped


carlsen can defend with fxg5


No he can't, e5 - f6 push and white loses the game??

How can he defend the promote? That's a very long line in itself
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 22 2013 13:35 GMT
#1740
On November 22 2013 22:33 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 22:32 mdb wrote:
On November 22 2013 22:30 sharkie wrote:
On November 22 2013 22:28 mdb wrote:
hm doesnt anand just loses a pawn after Ng8+?


knight is trapped


carlsen can defend with fxg5


No he can't, e5 - f6 push and white loses the game??

How can he defend the promote? That's a very long line in itself


yeah I guess with e5 anand wins the pawn race
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