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Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
December 17 2013 13:04 GMT
#101
woooo nice
NrT.Artunit
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 17 2013 14:14 GMT
#102
This feels like advertising. ..
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 14:24:05
December 17 2013 14:15 GMT
#103
On December 17 2013 18:02 MadProbe wrote:
Flux/redshift is really great. I use it a lot.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 02:06 FakePseudo wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h works however so apparently you cant call it without -l lat:lon and since you launch it in a terminal you have this things which keeps running. gtk-redshift (1.7) is not that pretty either, since you still have to call it from bash, so it just adds this small icon which burns your eyes when you click on it, and...that's it. If you have any advice on how to get those running smoothly, it would be very welcome.

I'll give the f.lux version for linux a shot.


Here's the fix I use for redshift/gtk-redshift (linux):

Make a file ~/.config/redshift.conf
This is mine:
+ Show Spoiler +

; Global settings
[redshift]
temp-day=5700
temp-night=3500
transition=1
gamma=0.8:0.7:0.8
location-provider=manual
;adjustment-method=vidmode

; The location provider and adjustment method settings
; are in their own sections.
[manual]
lat=38
lon=-122

; In this example screen 1 is adjusted by vidmode. Note
; that the numbering starts from 0, so this is actually
; the second screen.
;[vidmode]
;screen=1

Make sure to change your lat/lon and screen correctly. I got it from here: http://jonls.dk/2010/10/redshift-1-6-released/

It still doesn't work quite right for me because I have to manually toggle it on/off in the notification area... but at least it's usable. I don't know why the hell I still have to do this... seems like such a simple bug for the devs to fix.


Well as I said before, I got it running smoothly now, but I'm still interested in one or two things:

.Does transition affect the way redshift transitions from daytime color temp to nighttime color temp?

.What is adjustment method? When I call redshift manually and see what it outputs, it says using method randr or something. I supposed it's linked with that, but what does that mean?

.Didn't know about that gamma input, what does it do?
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Joel-E
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom50 Posts
December 18 2013 01:44 GMT
#104
Overall great tool. I never really had sleep issues, so it didn't help that. However, it certainly helped my eyes. When I turn it off, it makes my eyes hurt like hell. When it's on my eyes feel better.
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TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
December 18 2013 01:56 GMT
#105
I can't believe it but this actually worked, I slept much better than I have in a long time after putting this on my computer. At first I thought it was just some gimmick but it actually worked.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 18 2013 03:46 GMT
#106
On December 18 2013 10:56 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
I can't believe it but this actually worked, I slept much better than I have in a long time after putting this on my computer. At first I thought it was just some gimmick but it actually worked.

Yup. That's why I have a hard time believing anyone who uses it for an hour and then denounces it as garbage or annoying. You have to use it for a while for it to have an effect. After a night or two of using it you don't even notice it but it will make a big difference.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 18 2013 05:29 GMT
#107
I read about flux on TL in this Amazing thread
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 18 2013 10:22 GMT
#108
Btw I play dota2 on window borderless mode for quick alt-tabbing, how can I make it not change the colours of the game?
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Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
December 18 2013 10:28 GMT
#109
Check the box: "Disable for the next hour"?
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MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 09:31:58
December 19 2013 05:33 GMT
#110
On December 17 2013 23:15 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 18:02 MadProbe wrote:
Flux/redshift is really great. I use it a lot.

On December 17 2013 02:06 FakePseudo wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h works however so apparently you cant call it without -l lat:lon and since you launch it in a terminal you have this things which keeps running. gtk-redshift (1.7) is not that pretty either, since you still have to call it from bash, so it just adds this small icon which burns your eyes when you click on it, and...that's it. If you have any advice on how to get those running smoothly, it would be very welcome.

I'll give the f.lux version for linux a shot.


Here's the fix I use for redshift/gtk-redshift (linux):

Make a file ~/.config/redshift.conf
This is mine:
+ Show Spoiler +

; Global settings
[redshift]
temp-day=5700
temp-night=3500
transition=1
gamma=0.8:0.7:0.8
location-provider=manual
;adjustment-method=vidmode

; The location provider and adjustment method settings
; are in their own sections.
[manual]
lat=38
lon=-122

; In this example screen 1 is adjusted by vidmode. Note
; that the numbering starts from 0, so this is actually
; the second screen.
;[vidmode]
;screen=1

Make sure to change your lat/lon and screen correctly. I got it from here: http://jonls.dk/2010/10/redshift-1-6-released/

It still doesn't work quite right for me because I have to manually toggle it on/off in the notification area... but at least it's usable. I don't know why the hell I still have to do this... seems like such a simple bug for the devs to fix.


Well as I said before, I got it running smoothly now, but I'm still interested in one or two things:

.Does transition affect the way redshift transitions from daytime color temp to nighttime color temp?

.What is adjustment method? When I call redshift manually and see what it outputs, it says using method randr or something. I supposed it's linked with that, but what does that mean?

.Didn't know about that gamma input, what does it do?


1. Transition: 1 means fade over a few seconds. 0 is an instantaneous change. I believe it's a boolean variable (just 1 or 0).

2.Adjustment method: the method it uses to change the screen's color. And the default is randr - whatever that means. I think it depends on your graphics card or something. All i know is I had to change this once to get it to work at all because my machine didn't support the one I had it set to use. I don't think changing this is going to do anything except possibly break it. I could be wrong about this.

3. Gamma is fun because it changes the color redshift uses. it's red:green:blue where the color is a value from 0 to 1. It's like html colors where all colors are made up of a percentage of red green and blue. By default it's set to a pinkish color. I just use the default.

edit: On second thought, I could be completely wrong about some of these.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 01:17:48
December 20 2013 01:17 GMT
#111
I work for a IT company and they actually make us load this program on all our macs

shit works

its so yellow at first but you get used to it
dumchu
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 20 2013 01:35 GMT
#112
I'm pretty used to it by now. I never really had any issues sleeping or with my eyes hurting before, but I'll just assume it's a good thing.
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FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
December 20 2013 20:42 GMT
#113
When I started using it the color variation was very noticeable.
Now i'm so used to it I do'nt even notice that it's on.

Makes it a lot easier on the eyes during the evenings.
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 23:24:54
December 20 2013 22:47 GMT
#114
On December 18 2013 14:29 layabout wrote:
I read about flux on TL in this Amazing thread


I knew it ! I knew I learned about that soft on TL !

On December 17 2013 23:15 FakePseudo wrote:
.Does transition affect the way redshift transitions from daytime color temp to nighttime color temp?

.What is adjustment method? When I call redshift manually and see what it outputs, it says using method randr or something. I supposed it's linked with that, but what does that mean?


Adjustment method is about how it internally changes the color : randr is a set of extensions for the X11 server that allows, among a lot of other things (rotating, moving and in general handling screens), to do what redshift does.
I know of only one other adjustement method, which is vidmode, an old command that does thing similar to what randr does, except it is much older, and it seems to work outside of X

transition is :
if 0 then the transition between daymode and nightmode is instant (screen goes orange instantly)
if 1 then there is a smooth transition between daymode and nightmode a la f.lux

(btw, this is explained on the dev's website : http://jonls.dk/redshift/)

EDIT :
On December 17 2013 23:14 c0ldfusion wrote:
This feels like advertising. ..

Advertising, for a free open-source research project... It shouldn't count as advertising I think.
Oh I can't find the source anywhere so I'll just assume it isn't open-source. Redshift definitely is though.
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
December 20 2013 23:58 GMT
#115
I've been using this for 1-2 years now and it's amazing. After 1-2 days you don't even notice it anymore and only remember about it when your friends keep asking "why is your screen yellow?" all the time.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
December 21 2013 00:01 GMT
#116
just remember to turn it off when gaming
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Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
December 21 2013 00:06 GMT
#117
On December 21 2013 09:01 jinorazi wrote:
just remember to turn it off when gaming

If you're playing in fullscreen mode, it usually doesn't affect games.
It does for windowed and windowed fullscreen though
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 21 2013 00:22 GMT
#118
Wow, gonna try it out
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
December 21 2013 00:30 GMT
#119
Hmm I think I'll have to live with my messed up night stalker rhythm, my monitor basically looks like this right now:
[image loading]
decemberscalm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1353 Posts
December 21 2013 01:48 GMT
#120
On December 21 2013 09:30 Nyxisto wrote:
Hmm I think I'll have to live with my messed up night stalker rhythm, my monitor basically looks like this right now:
[image loading]

Change the settings.

Slide the bottom slider to halfway up towards daylight.

Keep in mind, it'll look reeeeeally odd at first but after a lot of use it'll stop looking odd entirely.

I also recommend changing the transition from 20 seconds to 60 minutes, the 20 second transition is just jarring and makes you notice it every time.
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