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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 01 2013 23:04 GMT
#1
http://justgetflux.com/

Ever notice how people texting at night have that eerie blue glow?

Or wake up ready to write down the Next Great Idea, and get blinded by your computer screen?

During the day, computer screens look good—they're designed to look like the sun. But, at 9PM, 10PM, or 3AM, you probably shouldn't be looking at the sun.

f.lux
f.lux fixes this: it makes the color of your computer's display adapt to the time of day, warm at night and like sunlight during the day.

It's even possible that you're staying up too late because of your computer. You could use f.lux because it makes you sleep better, or you could just use it just because it makes your computer look better.



This is a nifty tool I found while browsing the webs. I believe many of you will know about it, but those who doesn't - it's A-FUCKING-MAZING!

My eyes have never been so rested. I use a 6000K white light on my room, and even with such a strong light my eyes would get really strained at night(not much of a problem during the day).

I thought I'd share about it here because I really liked it and do recommend it.

I hold no affiliation with said website and yaddayaddayadda just try it out
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Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 23:22:12
November 01 2013 23:19 GMT
#2
Isn't there already a thread about this ?

I've been using it (and its alter ego redshift for linux) for 3 years now, and I'm pretty sure I first read about it on TL

So yeah, OT : great piece of software, I don't actually know how useful it is for your sleep but it's much less aggressive to the eye at night. I've used it on my desktop, laptop and (jailbroken) iPhone (where it's most useful since you use that during the night even when you don't plan on staying up very late - unlike the actual computers which if you use them at night probably means you're in for a long night of work - or gaming)
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 01 2013 23:23 GMT
#3
The warm light is pretty interesting I'll hand it to you.

Not sure if it really relieves strain from my eyes though.
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
November 01 2013 23:31 GMT
#4
Or you could just calibrate your monitor properly. You don't even need tools.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
November 02 2013 00:11 GMT
#5
Or you could, you know, take a break from your phone or computer before bed time if you have sleep issues..... Talk about a first world problem lol.

Although, I will say that having the brightness adjust to ease eye strain is kinda neat.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 00:13:45
November 02 2013 00:13 GMT
#6
isn't this akin to advertising? I haven't used it but friends have said it's a good tool.
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
November 02 2013 00:16 GMT
#7
Been using this for bout 2.5 years now, and I really do like it a lot. I just have to remind myself that as a graphic designer I'm turning it off when I need to.
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
November 02 2013 00:33 GMT
#8
Interesting...will give it a try
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
November 02 2013 00:34 GMT
#9
It takes a while to get used to initially but it's definitely worth it in my opinion.
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#10
I used to use this on my laptop and loved it but for whatever reason it actually increases eye strain on the monitor I have now.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 02 2013 00:43 GMT
#11
I like it and recommend it to anyone
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 02 2013 00:43 GMT
#12
On November 02 2013 08:31 iTzSnypah wrote:
Or you could just calibrate your monitor properly. You don't even need tools.


its designed to match the color temperature of your monitor to whatever lights you are using around you. for most people, they often only have a lamp or other dim light on at night, so it changes the colors of your monitor to match soft, dim lights.
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DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
November 02 2013 01:02 GMT
#13
Just a tip, you won't stand it at first few hours but then you will forget about it for a long time ;P
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
November 02 2013 01:07 GMT
#14
I tried it before.

Utterly useless and only seems to serve to mess with the colours of your games.

I found no difference in being able to sleep when I had Flux installed, and was much happier when I got rid of it.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
November 02 2013 01:27 GMT
#15
Works wonder for me. Fixed my sleep issues with late night PC use. If only i could use this on my iphone w/o jailbreaking it.
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Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
November 02 2013 01:28 GMT
#16
Can't say much for the sleep part of it, but I've been using it for a couple years now and it's greatly reduced my eye strain. I used to get headaches all the time while at the computer, and I don't at all anymore since I've been using it.
NeuroticPsychosis
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 01:39:27
November 02 2013 01:38 GMT
#17
I've heard about things like this but I don't need it because I'm perfectly okay staring into my iPad screen set at maximum brightness on my bed in total darkness under my sheets watching a stupidly pointless YouTube video at 2 AM when I have to get up at 6 AM the next morning.
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Evolpeac
Profile Joined December 2007
United States34 Posts
November 02 2013 02:12 GMT
#18
I've used this for about a year now. It really does work on eye strain reduction. Every now and then I disable it for something or another and notice the huge difference in strain that my eyes must go through. All in all very worth a try if you're thinking of it.
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
November 02 2013 02:51 GMT
#19
I always forget I have it on :s
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
November 02 2013 02:53 GMT
#20
On November 02 2013 10:07 killa_robot wrote:
I tried it before.

Utterly useless and only seems to serve to mess with the colours of your games.

I found no difference in being able to sleep when I had Flux installed, and was much happier when I got rid of it.


It doesnt change colours ingame, unless you run them in windowed mode.

Its far from useless. I've been using it for years and it definitely helps with my sleeping patterns.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 02 2013 03:17 GMT
#21
I run it on my laptop (I always have my room light on when using my desktop) and I can say it has helped me sleep earlier after being on the computer at night.
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Morton
Profile Joined July 2012
United States152 Posts
November 02 2013 03:18 GMT
#22
it doesn't make you sleep better, it reduces eye strain (which i guess could indirectly help)........incredibly useful and awesome program though, been using it for a year.

I heard about it from Illusion when he was still on quantic. He gave it a shoutout on stream, so there is at least one endorsement
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 02 2013 03:47 GMT
#23
I've used it since it first came out. It has helped me so much, especially since I do most of my school programming work in the evening and it gets dark here early for half the year.
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1801 Posts
November 02 2013 03:53 GMT
#24
I've been using f.lux for about a year now and it's so awesome~~ Makes me last longer and also makes my laptop screen easier to look at no matter where I am ^_^
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 08:33:32
November 02 2013 04:44 GMT
#25
I just started using it for around 4 months and it helps quite a lot actually.
my eyes got really tired after I play a few games of league and this program helped me quite a bit
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 02 2013 04:59 GMT
#26
Used to use it, reinstalled windows and didnt bother again, i think i should because it is pretty nice
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 02 2013 05:01 GMT
#27
Does this drain laptop battery significantly when used?
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
November 02 2013 05:05 GMT
#28
On November 02 2013 12:18 Morton wrote:
it doesn't make you sleep better, it reduces eye strain (which i guess could indirectly help)........incredibly useful and awesome program though, been using it for a year.

I heard about it from Illusion when he was still on quantic. He gave it a shoutout on stream, so there is at least one endorsement


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el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
November 02 2013 05:32 GMT
#29
Ya, this is a nice program if anyone hasn't tried it yet. I feel like I'm sleeping much better after installing it, definitely worth a try.
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
November 02 2013 06:25 GMT
#30
Anyone doubting the effectiveness of this program should browse the internet for an hour then turn it off suddenly. It will feel like your eyes are on fire. This program is the first thing I install when I format my pc. It's really good.
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 02 2013 09:27 GMT
#31
My brother showed me this a while ago! It's so simple and yet so brilliant
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
November 02 2013 09:35 GMT
#32
i started using it like three weeks ago cause a friend told me about it... kinda like it haha
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Darkened
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
November 02 2013 09:48 GMT
#33
I've been using it for more than a year now. It is very useful for late night gaming when you don't want all the graphics screwing with your eyes. I even have the daytime lighting lower since my room is a bit darker than normal during the day. It's pretty much a spectacular piece of software.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
November 02 2013 10:19 GMT
#34
Also been using this for around a year or so... I can't stand using computers at school that don't have this!
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 10:52:16
November 02 2013 10:49 GMT
#35
I use it for 4 months now and forgot about it lol.
You will not notice it is on after a week or so. For people who also use their phone in bed late at night I recommend the app twilight, same thing jsut for your phone.

as with all good things, you will only notice it when its gone
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flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
November 02 2013 11:30 GMT
#36
I don't run it but it's helping me sleep earlier and better.

Good stuff.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
November 02 2013 12:02 GMT
#37
I read and heard about it a few times now, guess it's time to install.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 02 2013 12:34 GMT
#38
On November 02 2013 19:49 graNite wrote:
I use it for 4 months now and forgot about it lol.
You will not notice it is on after a week or so. For people who also use their phone in bed late at night I recommend the app twilight, same thing jsut for your phone.

as with all good things, you will only notice it when its gone


I use that app as well, and yeah it's hella useful. I turned it off yesterday and my eyes almost burned from the light lol
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Zhazulo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden226 Posts
November 02 2013 16:00 GMT
#39
Just tried it out, it feels nice and cozy to the eyes. I recommend trying it out.

Thanks for the tip!
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
November 02 2013 16:04 GMT
#40
Tried it and hated it.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
November 02 2013 16:07 GMT
#41
Can't even remember how long I've been using this, works great though. Only thing I don't like is the lag spike you get when it makes the transition on fast mode. Other than that its good.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 02 2013 16:14 GMT
#42
absolutely love this! If you don't like the colour you can always tweak it
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Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
November 02 2013 16:41 GMT
#43
Thanks for the reminder, had reinstalled the OS but missed this little guy. Really appreciate it.
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 02 2013 23:25 GMT
#44
On November 03 2013 01:07 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Can't even remember how long I've been using this, works great though. Only thing I don't like is the lag spike you get when it makes the transition on fast mode. Other than that its good.


I dont recommend fast mode. Slow mode makes the transition feel more natural.
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FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
November 02 2013 23:31 GMT
#45
On November 03 2013 08:25 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 01:07 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Can't even remember how long I've been using this, works great though. Only thing I don't like is the lag spike you get when it makes the transition on fast mode. Other than that its good.


I dont recommend fast mode. Slow mode makes the transition feel more natural.


I literally don't even notice it anymore. When I turn it off at night for colour sensitive things I get a little sad inside.

Recommended fully, nice little tool.
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Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
November 02 2013 23:45 GMT
#46
Whats the science behind this and how do you get it for iPhones?
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 03 2013 00:01 GMT
#47
Thx for this, helped a lot!
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
November 03 2013 01:12 GMT
#48
On November 03 2013 08:45 Like a Boss wrote:
Whats the science behind this and how do you get it for iPhones?


iPhones don't have it unless you jailbreak it. It's really noticeable when you switch from flux to non-flux at night, in the day, not so much.
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
November 03 2013 02:22 GMT
#49
Does this affect gameplay in Starcraft? I just got this yesterday so haven't been able to try it at night playing Starcraft yet.
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FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
November 03 2013 02:45 GMT
#50
On November 03 2013 11:22 Brutaxilos wrote:
Does this affect gameplay in Starcraft? I just got this yesterday so haven't been able to try it at night playing Starcraft yet.


It will affect the colour only if you run the game in windowed or windowed fullscreen mode. Fullscreen applications maintain their original colours.
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
November 03 2013 03:20 GMT
#51
On November 03 2013 11:45 FluffyBinLaden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 11:22 Brutaxilos wrote:
Does this affect gameplay in Starcraft? I just got this yesterday so haven't been able to try it at night playing Starcraft yet.


It will affect the colour only if you run the game in windowed or windowed fullscreen mode. Fullscreen applications maintain their original colours.

Hmm, alright thanks!
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[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
November 04 2013 17:50 GMT
#52
I've started using this, but for the last 2 days I've only had red eyes. Maybe my eyes have to adjust, I don't know, but I don't get the feeling this is any 'better' for the eyes, just because it's darker. So far, I get the feeling my eyes have been less strained when I didn't use this program.

I guess if this does anything, it'll make my eyes hurt earlier, so I'll turn off the computer earlier for my health, and in the end win out indirectly (I want to try spend less time on the computer anyways.)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 04 2013 18:29 GMT
#53
The only downside is that my cursor looks blue at night because it isn't affected by flux.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 04 2013 18:33 GMT
#54
On November 05 2013 03:29 spinesheath wrote:
The only downside is that my cursor looks blue at night because it isn't affected by flux.

I use some colorful cursor because of that. You don't notice if it's not white.

I think I got the one I use out of this pack: http://lavalon.deviantart.com/art/Oxygen-Cursors-76614092
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 04 2013 18:40 GMT
#55
On November 05 2013 03:33 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 03:29 spinesheath wrote:
The only downside is that my cursor looks blue at night because it isn't affected by flux.

I use some colorful cursor because of that. You don't notice if it's not white.

I think I got the one I use out of this pack: http://lavalon.deviantart.com/art/Oxygen-Cursors-76614092

It's not like it would bother me enough to use a different cursor because of it. The downside is very small.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 04 2013 18:45 GMT
#56
It actually bothered me a lot. I couldn't use it with the normal cursors.
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insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
December 16 2013 04:21 GMT
#57
OMG I tried it and it went beyond my expectations! Eye srtrain is gone and i fell asleep much easier. OMG. I read about melatonin and how it works and now i see what was a reason for constant eye strain and having such a hard time when tring to fall asleep after ~3-4 hours infront of monitor (after the sunset). Yea, It's getting dark at 6 p.m here in december.
Guys, that's awesome indeed every1 should try it.
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Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
December 16 2013 04:23 GMT
#58
yea this program is great
i'm so used to it that when i use another computer for more than 20 minutes i start getting a headache
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Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
December 16 2013 05:07 GMT
#59
This is a fucking godsend.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
December 16 2013 05:12 GMT
#60
I actually kinda like the cursor not being affected. It feels more glowy that way. I mean yes, it does nag at my purist side, but I've learned to like it as though it were an intended feature.

Agreed on the older topic bit; I'm sure there's one already here.
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leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
December 16 2013 05:52 GMT
#61
just downloaded it, and it looks wonderful so far. removes that SHARPNESS that you see from the monitor at night, it feels softer and more manageable to stare at my PC

here's hoping its still nice longterm...
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
December 16 2013 06:13 GMT
#62
On November 05 2013 03:29 spinesheath wrote:
The only downside is that my cursor looks blue at night because it isn't affected by flux.


wow i've been using it for a year and haven't noticed the mouse issue till just now

thanks a lot fucker
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 16 2013 06:49 GMT
#63
On December 16 2013 15:13 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 03:29 spinesheath wrote:
The only downside is that my cursor looks blue at night because it isn't affected by flux.


wow i've been using it for a year and haven't noticed the mouse issue till just now

thanks a lot fucker

I installed this just now to give it a try and after reading that comment I already feel the same. God dammit, I wouldn't have even noticed it before.
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ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
December 16 2013 07:51 GMT
#64
Everytime i try to set a location the program stops working. Waste of time
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 07:56:07
December 16 2013 07:53 GMT
#65
On December 16 2013 15:13 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 03:29 spinesheath wrote:
The only downside is that my cursor looks blue at night because it isn't affected by flux.


wow i've been using it for a year and haven't noticed the mouse issue till just now

thanks a lot fucker

That's to do with the way Windows handles the mouse icon. There is nothing that flux can do about that. From what I remember it is treated in some separate manner that prevents it from receiving the same tint everything else gets. This doesn't happen on the Mac version (or the Linux version from what I remember. I never noticed anyway) of f.lux so every time I go on Windows I notice it and it drive me nuts. But alas, it's beyond f.lux's control so I can't blame them for Microsoft having yet another way of making their OS annoying to work with.

I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 16 2013 08:28 GMT
#66
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 15:13 paper wrote:
On November 05 2013 03:29 spinesheath wrote:
The only downside is that my cursor looks blue at night because it isn't affected by flux.


wow i've been using it for a year and haven't noticed the mouse issue till just now

thanks a lot fucker

That's to do with the way Windows handles the mouse icon. There is nothing that flux can do about that. From what I remember it is treated in some separate manner that prevents it from receiving the same tint everything else gets. This doesn't happen on the Mac version (or the Linux version from what I remember. I never noticed anyway) of f.lux so every time I go on Windows I notice it and it drive me nuts. But alas, it's beyond f.lux's control so I can't blame them for Microsoft having yet another way of making their OS annoying to work with.

I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I always thought the mouse had a bluish tint to make it more noticable against the yellowish tint everything else gets...

Also f.lux was the first thing I installed after the OS on my new build (since I was able to just copy the sc2 files). Been using it for around a year (maybe 2..) and really like it!
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 16 2013 08:32 GMT
#67
How, I feel sleepy for the first time in the while. Weird.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 16 2013 10:59 GMT
#68
I'm curious, let's try it. I'll see tonight if it works
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 12:24:15
December 16 2013 12:23 GMT
#69
Ive had a lot of issues with my eyes and I think it comes down to my computer habits and lighting. I use the computer at school, at work and when I get home. When I wake up the eyes feel dry and red. Hope this can give my eyes some comfort, Ill buy some eye-drops too
Greed is good
Ovi
Profile Joined April 2010
164 Posts
December 16 2013 13:44 GMT
#70
Been using flux for about 2 years now. It does wonders for my eyes. I introduced it to my brother and he too cant be without it now.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 16 2013 15:34 GMT
#71
I have it since 1 week or so, and when u turn it off, i want it back directly. Such a nice and warm light. I even like it in SC2, just put the Gamma a bit higher and it looks just great.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 15:50:10
December 16 2013 15:43 GMT
#72
It's been my intention to search this kind of a software for a while now.
This thread saved my precious time, thanks.

edit: does it conflict with twitch-stream? streams aren't working for me for some reason. I hear the audio but no video.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 16 2013 16:22 GMT
#73
On December 17 2013 00:43 Piste wrote:
It's been my intention to search this kind of a software for a while now.
This thread saved my precious time, thanks.

edit: does it conflict with twitch-stream? streams aren't working for me for some reason. I hear the audio but no video.


No, that's just a coincidence. I watch twitch streams using flux all the time. Something else is causing you issues.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
December 16 2013 16:39 GMT
#74
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 16 2013 17:05 GMT
#75
Just tried it and right as it finished calibrating I was like wooooooah, what just happened, lol.
My balls were too heavy, eyeballs that is, this immediately relieved some strain.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
December 16 2013 17:06 GMT
#76
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h works however so apparently you cant call it without -l lat:lon and since you launch it in a terminal you have this things which keeps running. gtk-redshift (1.7) is not that pretty either, since you still have to call it from bash, so it just adds this small icon which burns your eyes when you click on it, and...that's it. If you have any advice on how to get those running smoothly, it would be very welcome.

I'll give the f.lux version for linux a shot.
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Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 17:13:18
December 16 2013 17:10 GMT
#77
On December 17 2013 02:06 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h

On gentoo I had a geoclue use flag, so I don't need to input latitude/longitude, maybe it's not compiled with geoclue support on Mint ? (since it's not default on gentoo, it's probably not in the binaries in the distributions that distributes binaries)
Otherwise, I just launch it from my start script so I don't care about the graphical interface, but I get how it could be a problem.

If the linux f.lux version has become any good along the years (which it seems to have according to Ben....) you should probably go with that, it's a more mature project (well, the linux version isn't, but the project in itself is)
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
December 16 2013 17:13 GMT
#78
On December 17 2013 02:10 Natolumin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 02:06 FakePseudo wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h

On gentoo I had a geoclue use flag, so I don't need to input latitude/longitude, maybe it's not compiled with geoclue support on Mint ?
Otherwise, I just launch it from my start script so I don't care about the graphical interface, but I get how it could be a problem.


Well I'm certainly not a gui fanatic, it just bothers me to have this bash open which keep running. Well maybe if I add it to my startup (which I'll certainly end up doing) the opened bash won't be in the way.
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mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
December 16 2013 17:39 GMT
#79
I actually didn't like it. Night time light is too low, low light also puts strain in your eyes because you have to focus more.
Age of Mythology forever!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#80
On December 17 2013 02:39 mantequilla wrote:
I actually didn't like it. Night time light is too low, low light also puts strain in your eyes because you have to focus more.

There's a slider in the options to configure this to what you like.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
December 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#81
On December 17 2013 02:39 mantequilla wrote:
I actually didn't like it. Night time light is too low, low light also puts strain in your eyes because you have to focus more.


You can change the color temperature in the settings
BTW, it doesn't lower the brightness, so you shouldn't have to focus more : it only changes the color that is most noticeable from blue to redish
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
December 16 2013 18:01 GMT
#82
Well got to play a bit more with redshift and added it to my startup scripts. It works perfectly as long as you just use it as a raw terminal thing: >redshift -t day:night -l lat:lon . So yeah as a command line driven thing to use in scripts and all it's a nice thing, and I appreciate working with.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 16 2013 18:01 GMT
#83
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

I had heard of it, but kept forgetting about it. I do 90% of my Linux work in VMs now anyway so it hasn't been a huge priority for me. Thanks though.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
December 16 2013 22:40 GMT
#84
This is AMAZING! I just installed it, my eyes loves it
Greed is good
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 16 2013 22:46 GMT
#85
Is this suggesting that light temperature equates to eye strain relative to the time of day? Pretty sure the brightness(which tends to be tied to back-lighting in computer monitors) have to do with pushing mega lumens at your eyes at a distance of 2 feet is the eye strain.
Saber~
Profile Joined April 2010
United States60 Posts
December 16 2013 23:13 GMT
#86
Everything is so very orange.
I draw progamers. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=140130
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
December 16 2013 23:23 GMT
#87
I'm quite a fan of this software, been using it for maybe half a year now. Definitely makes it much easier on the eyes.
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Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 00:17:40
December 17 2013 00:11 GMT
#88
Just installed this, probably the next best thing after the TL Dark addon. (miss it so much, damn you FireFox!)
Set it at 4200 at night now, the default was way to orange for me.
Thx, forgot about this.

Edit: Is there any way to apply this also to my 2nd monitor?
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Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
December 17 2013 00:28 GMT
#89
I tried this a while ago and didn't like it much. Maybe it was because I didn't configure properly.

But is there a way to make the change incremental throughout the day, so I don't even notice it? When I used it, it was very glaring when the color space changes :/
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
December 17 2013 00:37 GMT
#90
I used it before, and I don't recommend it for use with BW. I remember facing or playing Zerg and not understanding where the creep was X_X.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
December 17 2013 01:18 GMT
#91
On December 17 2013 09:28 Tarot wrote:
I tried this a while ago and didn't like it much. Maybe it was because I didn't configure properly.

But is there a way to make the change incremental throughout the day, so I don't even notice it? When I used it, it was very glaring when the color space changes :/


Nope, it's a pretty crap piece of software considering how many people want to use it. The change happens like instantaneously, it fucks over your OS's colour palette, sometimes you uninstall and it leaves everything orange and you have to reinstall it, makes some Nvidia drivers crash, etc.
3 Hatch Before Cool
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
December 17 2013 01:36 GMT
#92
On December 17 2013 09:11 Samba wrote:
Just installed this, probably the next best thing after the TL Dark addon. (miss it so much, damn you FireFox!)
Set it at 4200 at night now, the default was way to orange for me.
Thx, forgot about this.

Edit: Is there any way to apply this also to my 2nd monitor?

you can configurate flux. Well it looks like i do not explore a lot.
this is a quote
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 01:43:58
December 17 2013 01:37 GMT
#93
Well this might not work out so well in a place where the sun sets at 3PM and if I don't want to fall asleep while studying.
"See you space cowboy"
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
December 17 2013 03:07 GMT
#94
On December 17 2013 10:18 -Kaiser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 09:28 Tarot wrote:
I tried this a while ago and didn't like it much. Maybe it was because I didn't configure properly.

But is there a way to make the change incremental throughout the day, so I don't even notice it? When I used it, it was very glaring when the color space changes :/


Nope, it's a pretty crap piece of software considering how many people want to use it. The change happens like instantaneously, it fucks over your OS's colour palette, sometimes you uninstall and it leaves everything orange and you have to reinstall it, makes some Nvidia drivers crash, etc.

Do you have even a sliver of evidence for your claims, or are you just making shit up for the fun of it?
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 03:46:19
December 17 2013 03:44 GMT
#95
On December 17 2013 09:28 Tarot wrote:
I tried this a while ago and didn't like it much. Maybe it was because I didn't configure properly.

But is there a way to make the change incremental throughout the day, so I don't even notice it? When I used it, it was very glaring when the color space changes :/

In its settings window, you can choose to have it change the colors inside of 20 seconds or slowly over one whole hour.

You can also configure it to be less extreme about the shift to orange so that it won't be as noticeable in general at night.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Names
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada328 Posts
December 17 2013 04:24 GMT
#96
Trying this out, seems quite awesome for now, will give feedback of my experience in a few days !
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
December 17 2013 07:31 GMT
#97
On December 17 2013 12:44 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 09:28 Tarot wrote:
I tried this a while ago and didn't like it much. Maybe it was because I didn't configure properly.

But is there a way to make the change incremental throughout the day, so I don't even notice it? When I used it, it was very glaring when the color space changes :/

In its settings window, you can choose to have it change the colors inside of 20 seconds or slowly over one whole hour.

You can also configure it to be less extreme about the shift to orange so that it won't be as noticeable in general at night.


1 hour is still very noticeable.
3 Hatch Before Cool
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
December 17 2013 08:16 GMT
#98
On December 17 2013 16:31 -Kaiser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 12:44 Ropid wrote:
On December 17 2013 09:28 Tarot wrote:
I tried this a while ago and didn't like it much. Maybe it was because I didn't configure properly.

But is there a way to make the change incremental throughout the day, so I don't even notice it? When I used it, it was very glaring when the color space changes :/

In its settings window, you can choose to have it change the colors inside of 20 seconds or slowly over one whole hour.

You can also configure it to be less extreme about the shift to orange so that it won't be as noticeable in general at night.


1 hour is still very noticeable.

no, it´s not.
MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
December 17 2013 09:02 GMT
#99
Flux/redshift is really great. I use it a lot.

On December 17 2013 02:06 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h works however so apparently you cant call it without -l lat:lon and since you launch it in a terminal you have this things which keeps running. gtk-redshift (1.7) is not that pretty either, since you still have to call it from bash, so it just adds this small icon which burns your eyes when you click on it, and...that's it. If you have any advice on how to get those running smoothly, it would be very welcome.

I'll give the f.lux version for linux a shot.


Here's the fix I use for redshift/gtk-redshift (linux):

Make a file ~/.config/redshift.conf
This is mine:

; Global settings
[redshift]
temp-day=5700
temp-night=3500
transition=1
gamma=0.8:0.7:0.8
location-provider=manual
;adjustment-method=vidmode

; The location provider and adjustment method settings
; are in their own sections.
[manual]
lat=38
lon=-122

; In this example screen 1 is adjusted by vidmode. Note
; that the numbering starts from 0, so this is actually
; the second screen.
;[vidmode]
;screen=1

Make sure to change your lat/lon and screen correctly. I got it from here: http://jonls.dk/2010/10/redshift-1-6-released/

It still doesn't work quite right for me because I have to manually toggle it on/off in the notification area... but at least it's usable. I don't know why the hell I still have to do this... seems like such a simple bug for the devs to fix.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
December 17 2013 09:26 GMT
#100
Will give this a try. I've been having problems with my eyes because of staring into the monitor so would be nice if this helps.
Set it ablaze!
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines399 Posts
December 17 2013 13:04 GMT
#101
woooo nice
NrT.Artunit
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 17 2013 14:14 GMT
#102
This feels like advertising. ..
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 14:24:05
December 17 2013 14:15 GMT
#103
On December 17 2013 18:02 MadProbe wrote:
Flux/redshift is really great. I use it a lot.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 02:06 FakePseudo wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h works however so apparently you cant call it without -l lat:lon and since you launch it in a terminal you have this things which keeps running. gtk-redshift (1.7) is not that pretty either, since you still have to call it from bash, so it just adds this small icon which burns your eyes when you click on it, and...that's it. If you have any advice on how to get those running smoothly, it would be very welcome.

I'll give the f.lux version for linux a shot.


Here's the fix I use for redshift/gtk-redshift (linux):

Make a file ~/.config/redshift.conf
This is mine:
+ Show Spoiler +

; Global settings
[redshift]
temp-day=5700
temp-night=3500
transition=1
gamma=0.8:0.7:0.8
location-provider=manual
;adjustment-method=vidmode

; The location provider and adjustment method settings
; are in their own sections.
[manual]
lat=38
lon=-122

; In this example screen 1 is adjusted by vidmode. Note
; that the numbering starts from 0, so this is actually
; the second screen.
;[vidmode]
;screen=1

Make sure to change your lat/lon and screen correctly. I got it from here: http://jonls.dk/2010/10/redshift-1-6-released/

It still doesn't work quite right for me because I have to manually toggle it on/off in the notification area... but at least it's usable. I don't know why the hell I still have to do this... seems like such a simple bug for the devs to fix.


Well as I said before, I got it running smoothly now, but I'm still interested in one or two things:

.Does transition affect the way redshift transitions from daytime color temp to nighttime color temp?

.What is adjustment method? When I call redshift manually and see what it outputs, it says using method randr or something. I supposed it's linked with that, but what does that mean?

.Didn't know about that gamma input, what does it do?
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Joel-E
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom50 Posts
December 18 2013 01:44 GMT
#104
Overall great tool. I never really had sleep issues, so it didn't help that. However, it certainly helped my eyes. When I turn it off, it makes my eyes hurt like hell. When it's on my eyes feel better.
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TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
December 18 2013 01:56 GMT
#105
I can't believe it but this actually worked, I slept much better than I have in a long time after putting this on my computer. At first I thought it was just some gimmick but it actually worked.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 18 2013 03:46 GMT
#106
On December 18 2013 10:56 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
I can't believe it but this actually worked, I slept much better than I have in a long time after putting this on my computer. At first I thought it was just some gimmick but it actually worked.

Yup. That's why I have a hard time believing anyone who uses it for an hour and then denounces it as garbage or annoying. You have to use it for a while for it to have an effect. After a night or two of using it you don't even notice it but it will make a big difference.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 18 2013 05:29 GMT
#107
I read about flux on TL in this Amazing thread
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 18 2013 10:22 GMT
#108
Btw I play dota2 on window borderless mode for quick alt-tabbing, how can I make it not change the colours of the game?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
December 18 2013 10:28 GMT
#109
Check the box: "Disable for the next hour"?
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MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 09:31:58
December 19 2013 05:33 GMT
#110
On December 17 2013 23:15 FakePseudo wrote:
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On December 17 2013 18:02 MadProbe wrote:
Flux/redshift is really great. I use it a lot.

On December 17 2013 02:06 FakePseudo wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:39 Natolumin wrote:
On December 16 2013 16:53 Ben... wrote:
I can't work without f.lux anymore. They finally released a Linux version of this so I can finally do work on Linux at night. After using f.lux since early beta using a computer without it at night is too jarring for me now. I have it set to a heavier level too, 2700K. I used to have it lighter. On my one machine I have it set to 2300K and might switch everything over to that soon now that I am getting used to it. I used to suffer from quite severe eyestrain and it basically has all gone away now.


I guess, now that there is a (good ?) linux version this is not really relevant anymore, but have you tried redshift for linux ?

Currently trying redshift(1.7) on mint, gotta say it's not that neat. Launching from any graphical interface fails with no output. Calling it raw in the command line outputs an ugly error. and it has not builtin --help. -h works however so apparently you cant call it without -l lat:lon and since you launch it in a terminal you have this things which keeps running. gtk-redshift (1.7) is not that pretty either, since you still have to call it from bash, so it just adds this small icon which burns your eyes when you click on it, and...that's it. If you have any advice on how to get those running smoothly, it would be very welcome.

I'll give the f.lux version for linux a shot.


Here's the fix I use for redshift/gtk-redshift (linux):

Make a file ~/.config/redshift.conf
This is mine:
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; Global settings
[redshift]
temp-day=5700
temp-night=3500
transition=1
gamma=0.8:0.7:0.8
location-provider=manual
;adjustment-method=vidmode

; The location provider and adjustment method settings
; are in their own sections.
[manual]
lat=38
lon=-122

; In this example screen 1 is adjusted by vidmode. Note
; that the numbering starts from 0, so this is actually
; the second screen.
;[vidmode]
;screen=1

Make sure to change your lat/lon and screen correctly. I got it from here: http://jonls.dk/2010/10/redshift-1-6-released/

It still doesn't work quite right for me because I have to manually toggle it on/off in the notification area... but at least it's usable. I don't know why the hell I still have to do this... seems like such a simple bug for the devs to fix.


Well as I said before, I got it running smoothly now, but I'm still interested in one or two things:

.Does transition affect the way redshift transitions from daytime color temp to nighttime color temp?

.What is adjustment method? When I call redshift manually and see what it outputs, it says using method randr or something. I supposed it's linked with that, but what does that mean?

.Didn't know about that gamma input, what does it do?


1. Transition: 1 means fade over a few seconds. 0 is an instantaneous change. I believe it's a boolean variable (just 1 or 0).

2.Adjustment method: the method it uses to change the screen's color. And the default is randr - whatever that means. I think it depends on your graphics card or something. All i know is I had to change this once to get it to work at all because my machine didn't support the one I had it set to use. I don't think changing this is going to do anything except possibly break it. I could be wrong about this.

3. Gamma is fun because it changes the color redshift uses. it's red:green:blue where the color is a value from 0 to 1. It's like html colors where all colors are made up of a percentage of red green and blue. By default it's set to a pinkish color. I just use the default.

edit: On second thought, I could be completely wrong about some of these.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 01:17:48
December 20 2013 01:17 GMT
#111
I work for a IT company and they actually make us load this program on all our macs

shit works

its so yellow at first but you get used to it
dumchu
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 20 2013 01:35 GMT
#112
I'm pretty used to it by now. I never really had any issues sleeping or with my eyes hurting before, but I'll just assume it's a good thing.
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FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
December 20 2013 20:42 GMT
#113
When I started using it the color variation was very noticeable.
Now i'm so used to it I do'nt even notice that it's on.

Makes it a lot easier on the eyes during the evenings.
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 23:24:54
December 20 2013 22:47 GMT
#114
On December 18 2013 14:29 layabout wrote:
I read about flux on TL in this Amazing thread


I knew it ! I knew I learned about that soft on TL !

On December 17 2013 23:15 FakePseudo wrote:
.Does transition affect the way redshift transitions from daytime color temp to nighttime color temp?

.What is adjustment method? When I call redshift manually and see what it outputs, it says using method randr or something. I supposed it's linked with that, but what does that mean?


Adjustment method is about how it internally changes the color : randr is a set of extensions for the X11 server that allows, among a lot of other things (rotating, moving and in general handling screens), to do what redshift does.
I know of only one other adjustement method, which is vidmode, an old command that does thing similar to what randr does, except it is much older, and it seems to work outside of X

transition is :
if 0 then the transition between daymode and nightmode is instant (screen goes orange instantly)
if 1 then there is a smooth transition between daymode and nightmode a la f.lux

(btw, this is explained on the dev's website : http://jonls.dk/redshift/)

EDIT :
On December 17 2013 23:14 c0ldfusion wrote:
This feels like advertising. ..

Advertising, for a free open-source research project... It shouldn't count as advertising I think.
Oh I can't find the source anywhere so I'll just assume it isn't open-source. Redshift definitely is though.
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
December 20 2013 23:58 GMT
#115
I've been using this for 1-2 years now and it's amazing. After 1-2 days you don't even notice it anymore and only remember about it when your friends keep asking "why is your screen yellow?" all the time.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
December 21 2013 00:01 GMT
#116
just remember to turn it off when gaming
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Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
December 21 2013 00:06 GMT
#117
On December 21 2013 09:01 jinorazi wrote:
just remember to turn it off when gaming

If you're playing in fullscreen mode, it usually doesn't affect games.
It does for windowed and windowed fullscreen though
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 21 2013 00:22 GMT
#118
Wow, gonna try it out
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
December 21 2013 00:30 GMT
#119
Hmm I think I'll have to live with my messed up night stalker rhythm, my monitor basically looks like this right now:
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decemberscalm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1353 Posts
December 21 2013 01:48 GMT
#120
On December 21 2013 09:30 Nyxisto wrote:
Hmm I think I'll have to live with my messed up night stalker rhythm, my monitor basically looks like this right now:
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Change the settings.

Slide the bottom slider to halfway up towards daylight.

Keep in mind, it'll look reeeeeally odd at first but after a lot of use it'll stop looking odd entirely.

I also recommend changing the transition from 20 seconds to 60 minutes, the 20 second transition is just jarring and makes you notice it every time.
bayko
Profile Joined December 2013
United States6 Posts
December 21 2013 02:57 GMT
#121
I always had eye twitches from eye strain from the monitor, but I've been using this, and I no longer have eye twitches, defiantly recommend for the sensitive eyed.
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 07:50:53
December 21 2013 07:48 GMT
#122
On December 17 2013 09:11 Samba wrote:
Just installed this, probably the next best thing after the TL Dark addon. (miss it so much, damn you FireFox!)
Set it at 4200 at night now, the default was way to orange for me.
Thx, forgot about this.

Edit: Is there any way to apply this also to my 2nd monitor?



Just wanted to report back for all they people saying that they hate it:
After now 4 days(rather nights) of using this i´ve gone down from 4200 to now 3400 and find myself even considering to expand the rate to go even further down into orange.
You get so used to it that i really find 4200 blinding bright now, while at first that was the maximum i could bare.

TL;DR: Awesome, TRY IT at least for a couple of days. And use slow mode.

P.S. I guess there´s no way to use this on my 2nd monitor as well?
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 08:12:33
December 21 2013 08:10 GMT
#123
It worked on my second monitor by default. My config is two monitors connected to one video card. It may be different if you have one monitor each on two video cards (not in xfire/sli).
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 10:37:23
December 21 2013 10:27 GMT
#124
On December 21 2013 17:10 seiferoth10 wrote:
It worked on my second monitor by default. My config is two monitors connected to one video card. It may be different if you have one monitor each on two video cards (not in xfire/sli).



Hm, no, i only have one card...
Maybe it´s because i´m using Ultramon to have a taskbar on my 2nd? Going to take a look once more.

Edit: Still clueless, F.A.Q. page didn´t say anything about 2nd monitors at all...
R1CH, HALP please.
Any ideas are very appreciated.
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Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
December 21 2013 10:51 GMT
#125
Yep, it should work on multiple monitors automatically (works on 3 monitors here), be it on one or two card

It's possible it conflicts with ultramon, have you tried disabling ultramon just once to see if that's the reason ?

maybe if you're not allergic to the command line you could try and see if redshift works better (quite unlikely on windows since they seem to use the same method to apply color change though)
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 21 2013 19:38 GMT
#126
On December 21 2013 19:51 Natolumin wrote:
Yep, it should work on multiple monitors automatically (works on 3 monitors here), be it on one or two card

It's possible it conflicts with ultramon, have you tried disabling ultramon just once to see if that's the reason ?

maybe if you're not allergic to the command line you could try and see if redshift works better (quite unlikely on windows since they seem to use the same method to apply color change though)



Nope, still not working.... :/
I use a pretty old LCD monitor as my 2nd and it´s connected via DVI/HDMI- adapter to my GTX 460 V2.
Could it be because of the adapter?
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 21 2013 19:45 GMT
#127
On December 22 2013 04:38 Samba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 19:51 Natolumin wrote:
Yep, it should work on multiple monitors automatically (works on 3 monitors here), be it on one or two card

It's possible it conflicts with ultramon, have you tried disabling ultramon just once to see if that's the reason ?

maybe if you're not allergic to the command line you could try and see if redshift works better (quite unlikely on windows since they seem to use the same method to apply color change though)



Nope, still not working.... :/
I use a pretty old LCD monitor as my 2nd and it´s connected via DVI/HDMI- adapter to my GTX 460 V2.
Could it be because of the adapter?


I use a DVI/VGA converter on both my outputs and it works fine for me.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 21 2013 19:52 GMT
#128
On December 22 2013 04:45 emythrel wrote:
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On December 22 2013 04:38 Samba wrote:
On December 21 2013 19:51 Natolumin wrote:
Yep, it should work on multiple monitors automatically (works on 3 monitors here), be it on one or two card

It's possible it conflicts with ultramon, have you tried disabling ultramon just once to see if that's the reason ?

maybe if you're not allergic to the command line you could try and see if redshift works better (quite unlikely on windows since they seem to use the same method to apply color change though)



Nope, still not working.... :/
I use a pretty old LCD monitor as my 2nd and it´s connected via DVI/HDMI- adapter to my GTX 460 V2.
Could it be because of the adapter?


I use a DVI/VGA converter on both my outputs and it works fine for me.


God damnit....i suck at troubleshooting.
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 21 2013 23:14 GMT
#129
So i installed this and it feels like im browsing the web thru a glass of orange juice.
BrieFanFiction
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 23:34:28
December 21 2013 23:33 GMT
#130
I have been using this program for about 3 years now, gaming hardcore, overclocking, etc and it has given me no problems... I recommend it very, very highly.

edit: If your tint looks too yellow/manila, go into the options and adjust it how you like. It changes at different times throughout the day.
nrv
Profile Joined April 2011
United States113 Posts
December 22 2013 12:25 GMT
#131
On December 22 2013 08:14 Coagulation wrote:
So i installed this and it feels like im browsing the web thru a glass of orange juice.


Agreed, I also feel this hurts my eyes more than just staring at my computer screen normally does.

yes
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
December 22 2013 21:13 GMT
#132
With the release of a public jailbreak for iOS, there is an updated (beta) version of f.lux for iOS that seems to work (at least it does for me) !

justgetflux.com/cydia
Lysithea
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden204 Posts
December 22 2013 21:57 GMT
#133
Can I somehow set my own schedule? any alternatives to this program?

I would like to set my own fixed times instead of where the sun happen to be at this specific place at this time of year.

My googlefu letting me down.
"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
December 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#134
On December 23 2013 06:13 Natolumin wrote:
With the release of a public jailbreak for iOS, there is an updated (beta) version of f.lux for iOS that seems to work (at least it does for me) !

justgetflux.com/cydia

Why no iOS 7
sorry for dem one liners
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 22:37:08
December 22 2013 22:34 GMT
#135
That's the point, it works with iOS 7 !

On December 23 2013 06:57 Lysithea wrote:
Can I somehow set my own schedule? any alternatives to this program?

I would like to set my own fixed times instead of where the sun happen to be at this specific place at this time of year.

My googlefu letting me down.


The only alternative I know of would be redshift (which I talked about a bit earlier)
Then, using a combination of cron jobs (scheduled tasks if you're on windows) and the use of the -O parameter (oneshot, meaning "put it at this temp and don't do anything afterwards") it should work pretty well

I don't think f.lux features a CLI on windows so you probably do such a thing with f.lux on windows
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6250 Posts
December 22 2013 22:35 GMT
#136
On December 22 2013 21:25 Sirois wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 08:14 Coagulation wrote:
So i installed this and it feels like im browsing the web thru a glass of orange juice.


Agreed, I also feel this hurts my eyes more than just staring at my computer screen normally does.


It takes some time to get used to but after you get used to it you don't want to go back anymore.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
December 23 2013 07:06 GMT
#137
On December 23 2013 07:34 Natolumin wrote:
That's the point, it works with iOS 7 !

Looks like they literally added iOS 7 support an hour after I wrote my comment.

When I first opened that link it had a warning sign which said it doesnt support iOS 7 and that it would make your screen have weird colors. That warning sign is not there anymore.

This makes me happy.
sorry for dem one liners
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 15:52:02
December 23 2013 15:41 GMT
#138
I am unable to find f.lux in Cydia. When I type it in search bar all that comes out is "f.lux toggle" app which I am unable to install. I'm guessing you need f.lux itself before installing that toggle app.

Also when I press "more from this developer" nothing happens and my request just times out. Does anyone else have this problem? Am I missing something? I want this so bad on my iphone, help please :/

EDIT: I am a jailbreaking noob. Apparently you need to add justgetflux.com/cydia to your Sources in Cydia so you can search for the app properly. I think I got it working now hooray.
sorry for dem one liners
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 23 2013 15:44 GMT
#139
I noticed with my new glasses i got they have bought out some better "blue screen" protection. It cost me an extra £60 but it is worth it, basically my vision onto computer screens now is exactly like it would be if Flux is on it.
So i guess if you need some new glasses soon you can get flux built in!

If not, use this program
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leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
January 30 2014 00:12 GMT
#140
Apologies for bumping a semi-old thread, but its SO helpful to people!

Also, I realized that if you use HDMI-out on your PC(like I do to watch movies on my big TV), you should turn off F.Lux or it will mess with the colors


awesome program otherwise, my eyes have never felt better!
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 30 2014 02:00 GMT
#141
I installed and giving it a try, seems it will take a few days to get used to this? I wonder how it copes with the day/night routine when I'm living so far up north there's barely a sunrise this time of year
Calanthe
Profile Joined October 2012
United States145 Posts
January 30 2014 02:11 GMT
#142
On December 22 2013 08:14 Coagulation wrote:
So i installed this and it feels like im browsing the web thru a glass of orange juice.

Play around with the different settings it offers. I use Halogen on both of my computers and it makes things a little more champagne-y, in terms of beverage comparisons.
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el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
January 30 2014 02:54 GMT
#143
On January 30 2014 11:00 daemir wrote:
I installed and giving it a try, seems it will take a few days to get used to this? I wonder how it copes with the day/night routine when I'm living so far up north there's barely a sunrise this time of year


It uses your latitude and longitude, so it'll know when sunrise and sunset are in your area.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 30 2014 02:57 GMT
#144
I love this app the most !
Now I can night read ^^
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 05 2014 00:37 GMT
#145
I enjoy this :D
But it makes me suffer some extreme FPS loss when it does do the changes, just to note.
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