On September 27 2013 18:42 Rassy wrote: Biggest one i know of is the excecutor super star destroyer from starwars (darthvaders flagship) at 19.000 meter (19 km) long. Got that one in lego (its awesome) and it has some details listed. crew:280735 carries 144 tie fighters, 50 at-st,s and 24 at-at,s (no clue where they got that info, maybe they just made it up lol)
"On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote: I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are in the -2000X"
O thx, didnt see that yet,wow this is awesome
I'm not sure if it was retconned later on or if you read wrong but I know for a fact a executor class super star destroyer was 8 KM long, the average star destroyer being only 1.6 KM in length. So it was still substantially larger and had tons more firepower then most other capital ships but it wasn't the biggest.
The biggest SSD (Super Star Destroyer), that I know of was the Eclipse class. I think only one was ever made, it was 17k KM long and with several substantial upgrades over the old SSD kinds, it had shield generators build deep into the hull and better protected, it had 4 gravity well generators build into it, so it could act as a interdictor cruiser and suck ships out of hyperspace. It also had a Death Star esque laser, that ran the length of the ship and fired from the tip at the end, it wasn't the big planet buster laser, but one of the side lasers that feed power into the big one, still it had enough power to cause cataclysmic damage to a planet and/or destroy a any ship know of till then.
Anyway awesome drawing, the size of most of the things in SC2 really makes us humans look insignificantly small and fragile by comparison.
Edit: Nvm, I saw both the Executor and the Eclipse in the top link, 19 KM holy mother of mercy.
On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote: I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.
the independence day one is at the bottom left. and it does look like the biggest one - 24000 meters.
Nevermind thats right.
On September 27 2013 20:13 Zyl wrote: Wow! Protoss needs bigger toys!^^
Still looking the coolest: Executor class super Star Destroyer!
The Warhammer ships look funny, you can see they are table top minis. Those skull ornaments were probably pretty small IRL, but then some guy decided "mine is thousands of kilometers long!!" and suddenly the skull is as big as the Imperial-I class Star Destroyer^^
The EVE ships look interesting, somewhat organic. I wonder what their story is.
Most Warhammer ships have their size listed somewhere id be almost sure of, def not made up i dont think.
SHIP NAME/TYPE: Dyson Sphere DIAMETER: 200,000,000km BUILDER/COMMENTS: "The Dyson Sphere was constructed over a million years ago by an unknown race, and abandoned several thousand years ago, presumably due to instability in the central star. The carbon-neutronium shell is approximately 2500 metres thick, and is presumed to contain circulation equipment for the Class-M environmental systems as well as artificial gravity and power generators, but this is an as-yet untested hypothesis, since only limited access has been gained and sensors are unable to penetrate the material. The upper atmosphere polarises to provide an artificial day/night cycle of 15.4 hours of light and 10.2 hours of darkness." From here.
SOURCE: Star Trek is where this particular iteration is derived from, however I will quote from Anders Sandberg's great site: "the The Dyson sphere (or Dyson shell) was originally proposed in 1959 by the astronomer Freeman Dyson as a way for an advanced civilization to utilise all of the energy radiated by their sun. It is an artificial sphere the size of an planetary orbit. The sphere would consist of a shell of solar collectors or habitats around the star, so that all (or at least a significant amount) energy will hit a receiving surface where it can be used. This would create a huge living space and gather enormous amounts of energy." see here for more information.
Never heard of it though
And for death stars
SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star II/ Mobile Command Base DIAMETER: 160km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.) BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet. SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode VI (Film)
SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star/ Mobile Command Base DIAMETER: 120km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.) BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet. SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode IV (Film)
On September 27 2013 18:42 Rassy wrote: Biggest one i know of is the excecutor super star destroyer from starwars (darthvaders flagship) at 19.000 meter (19 km) long. Got that one in lego (its awesome) and it has some details listed. crew:280735 carries 144 tie fighters, 50 at-st,s and 24 at-at,s (no clue where they got that info, maybe they just made it up lol)
"On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote: I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are in the -2000X"
O thx, didnt see that yet,wow this is awesome
I'm not sure if it was retconned later on or if you read wrong but I know for a fact a executor class super star destroyer was 8 KM long, the average star destroyer being only 1.6 KM in length. So it was still substantially larger and had tons more firepower then most other capital ships but it wasn't the biggest.
The biggest SSD (Super Star Destroyer), that I know of was the Eclipse class. I think only one was ever made, it was 17k KM long and with several substantial upgrades over the old SSD kinds, it had shield generators build deep into the hull and better protected, it had 4 gravity well generators build into it, so it could act as a interdictor cruiser and suck ships out of hyperspace. It also had a Death Star esque laser, that ran the length of the ship and fired from the tip at the end, it wasn't the big planet buster laser, but one of the side lasers that feed power into the big one, still it had enough power to cause cataclysmic damage to a planet and/or destroy a any ship know of till then.
Anyway awesome drawing, the size of most of the things in SC2 really makes us humans look insignificantly small and fragile by comparison.
Edit: Nvm, I saw both the Executor and the Eclipse in the top link, 19 KM holy mother of mercy.
The 8 KM figure comes from a poorly-considered Star Wars RPG table, which completely ignored the visual evidence of the films. In the films, it is easy to observe that the length of the Executor to an ordinary ISD was far greater than 1:5. Nonetheless, the 8 KM figure has become something canonical to the Star Wars EU fandom, making its erroneous measurements appear in video games, technical catalogues, and miscellaneous unofficial output.
Then in the late-90's the fansite "Technical Commentaries" explored the issue at length, and came up with the measurement that the evidence provided by the films pointed to a ratio of 1:11, making the SSD by that relation 17.6 KM.
Given the exponential disparities, we can take all the old RPG stats with a grain of salt. According to such stats, an Executor-class ship was only provided with less than half the ground vehicle complement, double the fighter complement, and triple the personnel complement of an ordinary Star Destroyer, whose volume it must exceed by a factor of hundreds.
The obvious conclusion to draw is this: Darth Vader's Star Destroyer which made its debut in the Empire Strikes Back was designed for its visual effect, and aura of domineering size. Its was not designed with nerdometric concerns in mind.
Well Eldar Craftworlds are technically Starships and those are planetoid-sized and are supposed to house at least millions, but they never explicitly state a size because nerds would nitpick everything apart.
On September 27 2013 21:00 FFW_Rude wrote: Biggest one is
SHIP NAME/TYPE: Dyson Sphere DIAMETER: 200,000,000km BUILDER/COMMENTS: "The Dyson Sphere was constructed over a million years ago by an unknown race, and abandoned several thousand years ago, presumably due to instability in the central star. The carbon-neutronium shell is approximately 2500 metres thick, and is presumed to contain circulation equipment for the Class-M environmental systems as well as artificial gravity and power generators, but this is an as-yet untested hypothesis, since only limited access has been gained and sensors are unable to penetrate the material. The upper atmosphere polarises to provide an artificial day/night cycle of 15.4 hours of light and 10.2 hours of darkness." From here.
SOURCE: Star Trek is where this particular iteration is derived from, however I will quote from Anders Sandberg's great site: "the The Dyson sphere (or Dyson shell) was originally proposed in 1959 by the astronomer Freeman Dyson as a way for an advanced civilization to utilise all of the energy radiated by their sun. It is an artificial sphere the size of an planetary orbit. The sphere would consist of a shell of solar collectors or habitats around the star, so that all (or at least a significant amount) energy will hit a receiving surface where it can be used. This would create a huge living space and gather enormous amounts of energy." see here for more information.
Never heard of it though
And for death stars
SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star II/ Mobile Command Base DIAMETER: 160km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.) BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet. SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode VI (Film)
SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star/ Mobile Command Base DIAMETER: 120km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.) BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet. SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode IV (Film)
On September 27 2013 19:26 Gulf wrote: starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line
There is definitely something wrong with the SC2 comparison, the top part and the lower part don't match. I mean, look at the size of a phoenix and compare it to a marine. It's about half as big.
On September 27 2013 19:26 Gulf wrote: starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line
There is definitely something wrong with the SC2 comparison, the top part and the lower part don't match. I mean, look at the size of a phoenix and compare it to a marine. It's about half as big.
The starcraft chart uses to different scales. Compare the broodlord to the left of the mothership to the one below it
On September 27 2013 19:26 Gulf wrote: starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line
There is definitely something wrong with the SC2 comparison, the top part and the lower part don't match. I mean, look at the size of a phoenix and compare it to a marine. It's about half as big.
On September 28 2013 00:50 Kipsate wrote: Science Vessel is larger then I imagined, probably because I also imagined it to be piloted by one guy for some reason.
don't you remember one of those installation missions taking place inside a science vessel? they're clearly really big.
I love those comparisons. there were plenty of mods for ST:Bridge Commander in which you could add ships from other universes...hell, the balance issues were limitless...think a Babylon 5 cruiser without shields firing his 100 weapon batteries on a much smaler ST ship with shields but quantum torpedos....and then a SW:star destroyer enters the battlefield...
I'm curious as to why BW carrier is so much larger than SC2 carrier, unless BW is specifically the gantrithor.
The really big shockers for me were the science vessel, and void ray.
I think where the ultralisk sizes differ is from the cinematic(ultra crushing the siege tank, which is ~3m tall) being considered correct, so you get like a 15m tall ultralisk. In the books an ultra was ~half that height, although I think part of that is ultra's evolving a crest.
Behemoth class BC is the one in the HOTS mission, Minotaur IIRC is the generic SC2 class.
On September 28 2013 00:50 Kipsate wrote: Science Vessel is larger then I imagined, probably because I also imagined it to be piloted by one guy for some reason.
On September 27 2013 21:13 Caihead wrote: Well Eldar Craftworlds are technically Starships and those are planetoid-sized and are supposed to house at least millions, but they never explicitly state a size because nerds would nitpick everything apart.
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