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Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
September 27 2013 09:26 GMT
#1
I just stumbled upon this really impressive combination of hundreds of different fictional starships, all drawn next to eachother in relative size http://dirkloechel.deviantart.com/art/Size-Comparison-Science-Fiction-spaceships-398790051

Starcraft's units, while impressive, are still dwarfed by EVE's and even Warhammer's ships in sheer size (and did you know the different battlecruiser models were quite different in size?).

Here's a comparison of starcraft units in size, too : http://i2.minus.com/idKJOHIciRf0E.jpg

What I'd like to see are some of Iain Banks ships rendered to scale as well, though they might dwarf anything in size. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_types_of_the_Culture#General_Systems_Vehicle
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
September 27 2013 09:28 GMT
#2
at least post the original link from which this deviantart guy seems to have stolen most of his stuff

http://www.merzo.net/
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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
September 27 2013 09:34 GMT
#3
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.
Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
September 27 2013 09:39 GMT
#4
On September 27 2013 18:28 Irratonalys wrote:
at least post the original link from which this deviantart guy seems to have stolen most of his stuff

http://www.merzo.net/


I am not sure if the person compiling the picture 'stole' images (that belong to the original artists and the companies that commissioned them anyway), but his presentation makes comparing things easier.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 09:48:50
September 27 2013 09:42 GMT
#5
Biggest one i know of is the excecutor super star destroyer from starwars (darthvaders flagship) at 19.000 meter (19 km) long. Got that one in lego (its awesome) and it has some details listed.
crew:280735
carries 144 tie fighters, 50 at-st,s and 24 at-at,s (no clue where they got that info, maybe they just made it up lol)


"On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
They are in the -2000X"

O thx, didnt see that yet,wow this is awesome
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 10:27:15
September 27 2013 09:44 GMT
#6
On September 27 2013 18:39 Culture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 18:28 Irratonalys wrote:
at least post the original link from which this deviantart guy seems to have stolen most of his stuff

http://www.merzo.net/


I am not sure if the person compiling the picture 'stole' images (that belong to the original artists and the companies that commissioned them anyway), but his presentation makes comparing things easier.


it's pretty cool . Thanks for sharing.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 09:47:16
September 27 2013 09:46 GMT
#7
On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.


They are in the -2000X

I can't find Starcraft ships

DAMNIT : i thought someone had responded. Sorry for double post
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Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
September 27 2013 10:05 GMT
#8
Starcraft ships are in the bottom right corner!
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Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 10:25:59
September 27 2013 10:20 GMT
#9
Dune ships? I think the guild heighliner is 20 000 metres long.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 27 2013 10:24 GMT
#10
On September 27 2013 19:05 Culture wrote:
Starcraft ships are in the bottom right corner!


Damn ! Void rays are huge !
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 27 2013 10:25 GMT
#11
This is like.... ridiculously interesting for some reason.

Artist should have included a 747 just for laughs!
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Gulf
Profile Joined May 2010
Scotland213 Posts
September 27 2013 10:26 GMT
#12
starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 27 2013 10:27 GMT
#13
On September 27 2013 19:25 Incognoto wrote:
This is like.... ridiculously interesting for some reason.

Artist should have included a 747 just for laughs!


http://www.merzo.net/

You have one there
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Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
September 27 2013 10:30 GMT
#14
On September 27 2013 19:26 Gulf wrote:
starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line



Marines are huge!
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Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 27 2013 10:37 GMT
#15
Thats pretty cool.
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Poland4731 Posts
September 27 2013 10:53 GMT
#16
This is cool. Thank You.
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Profile Joined April 2011
Cuba15 Posts
September 27 2013 11:13 GMT
#17
Wow! Protoss needs bigger toys!^^

Still looking the coolest: Executor class super Star Destroyer!

The Warhammer ships look funny, you can see they are table top minis. Those skull ornaments were probably pretty small IRL, but then some guy decided "mine is thousands of kilometers long!!" and suddenly the skull is as big as the Imperial-I class Star Destroyer^^

The EVE ships look interesting, somewhat organic. I wonder what their story is.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
September 27 2013 11:23 GMT
#18
On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.


the independence day one is at the bottom left. and it does look like the biggest one - 24000 meters.
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Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
September 27 2013 11:29 GMT
#19
Jesus christ, I would pee myself if I saw an overlord blocking out the sun in real life XD They are gigantic.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5488 Posts
September 27 2013 11:37 GMT
#20
Battlestar Galactica so small o.O
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 11:48:02
September 27 2013 11:38 GMT
#21
On September 27 2013 18:42 Rassy wrote:
Biggest one i know of is the excecutor super star destroyer from starwars (darthvaders flagship) at 19.000 meter (19 km) long. Got that one in lego (its awesome) and it has some details listed.
crew:280735
carries 144 tie fighters, 50 at-st,s and 24 at-at,s (no clue where they got that info, maybe they just made it up lol)


"On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
They are in the -2000X"

O thx, didnt see that yet,wow this is awesome


I'm not sure if it was retconned later on or if you read wrong but I know for a fact a executor class super star destroyer was 8 KM long, the average star destroyer being only 1.6 KM in length. So it was still substantially larger and had tons more firepower then most other capital ships but it wasn't the biggest.

The biggest SSD (Super Star Destroyer), that I know of was the Eclipse class. I think only one was ever made, it was 17k KM long and with several substantial upgrades over the old SSD kinds, it had shield generators build deep into the hull and better protected, it had 4 gravity well generators build into it, so it could act as a interdictor cruiser and suck ships out of hyperspace. It also had a Death Star esque laser, that ran the length of the ship and fired from the tip at the end, it wasn't the big planet buster laser, but one of the side lasers that feed power into the big one, still it had enough power to cause cataclysmic damage to a planet and/or destroy a any ship know of till then.

Anyway awesome drawing, the size of most of the things in SC2 really makes us humans look insignificantly small and fragile by comparison.

Edit: Nvm, I saw both the Executor and the Eclipse in the top link, 19 KM holy mother of mercy.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 11:52:08
September 27 2013 11:49 GMT
#22
On September 27 2013 20:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.


the independence day one is at the bottom left. and it does look like the biggest one - 24000 meters.

Nevermind thats right.

On September 27 2013 20:13 Zyl wrote:
Wow! Protoss needs bigger toys!^^

Still looking the coolest: Executor class super Star Destroyer!

The Warhammer ships look funny, you can see they are table top minis. Those skull ornaments were probably pretty small IRL, but then some guy decided "mine is thousands of kilometers long!!" and suddenly the skull is as big as the Imperial-I class Star Destroyer^^

The EVE ships look interesting, somewhat organic. I wonder what their story is.


Most Warhammer ships have their size listed somewhere id be almost sure of, def not made up i dont think.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 12:01:46
September 27 2013 12:00 GMT
#23
Biggest one is

SHIP NAME/TYPE: Dyson Sphere
DIAMETER: 200,000,000km
BUILDER/COMMENTS: "The Dyson Sphere was constructed over a million years ago by an unknown race, and abandoned several thousand years ago, presumably due to instability in the central star. The carbon-neutronium shell is approximately 2500 metres thick, and is presumed to contain circulation equipment for the Class-M environmental systems as well as artificial gravity and power generators, but this is an as-yet untested hypothesis, since only limited access has been gained and sensors are unable to penetrate the material. The upper atmosphere polarises to provide an artificial day/night cycle of 15.4 hours of light and 10.2 hours of darkness." From here.

SOURCE: Star Trek is where this particular iteration is derived from, however I will quote from Anders Sandberg's great site: "the The Dyson sphere (or Dyson shell) was originally proposed in 1959 by the astronomer Freeman Dyson as a way for an advanced civilization to utilise all of the energy radiated by their sun. It is an artificial sphere the size of an planetary orbit. The sphere would consist of a shell of solar collectors or habitats around the star, so that all (or at least a significant amount) energy will hit a receiving surface where it can be used. This would create a huge living space and gather enormous amounts of energy." see here for more information.


Never heard of it though

And for death stars




SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star II/ Mobile Command Base
DIAMETER: 160km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.)
BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet.
SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode VI (Film)


SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star/ Mobile Command Base
DIAMETER: 120km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.)
BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet.
SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode IV (Film)

From http://www.merzo.net/
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MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
September 27 2013 12:01 GMT
#24
On September 27 2013 20:38 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 18:42 Rassy wrote:
Biggest one i know of is the excecutor super star destroyer from starwars (darthvaders flagship) at 19.000 meter (19 km) long. Got that one in lego (its awesome) and it has some details listed.
crew:280735
carries 144 tie fighters, 50 at-st,s and 24 at-at,s (no clue where they got that info, maybe they just made it up lol)


"On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
They are in the -2000X"

O thx, didnt see that yet,wow this is awesome


I'm not sure if it was retconned later on or if you read wrong but I know for a fact a executor class super star destroyer was 8 KM long, the average star destroyer being only 1.6 KM in length. So it was still substantially larger and had tons more firepower then most other capital ships but it wasn't the biggest.

The biggest SSD (Super Star Destroyer), that I know of was the Eclipse class. I think only one was ever made, it was 17k KM long and with several substantial upgrades over the old SSD kinds, it had shield generators build deep into the hull and better protected, it had 4 gravity well generators build into it, so it could act as a interdictor cruiser and suck ships out of hyperspace. It also had a Death Star esque laser, that ran the length of the ship and fired from the tip at the end, it wasn't the big planet buster laser, but one of the side lasers that feed power into the big one, still it had enough power to cause cataclysmic damage to a planet and/or destroy a any ship know of till then.

Anyway awesome drawing, the size of most of the things in SC2 really makes us humans look insignificantly small and fragile by comparison.

Edit: Nvm, I saw both the Executor and the Eclipse in the top link, 19 KM holy mother of mercy.


The 8 KM figure comes from a poorly-considered Star Wars RPG table, which completely ignored the visual evidence of the films. In the films, it is easy to observe that the length of the Executor to an ordinary ISD was far greater than 1:5. Nonetheless, the 8 KM figure has become something canonical to the Star Wars EU fandom, making its erroneous measurements appear in video games, technical catalogues, and miscellaneous unofficial output.

Then in the late-90's the fansite "Technical Commentaries" explored the issue at length, and came up with the measurement that the evidence provided by the films pointed to a ratio of 1:11, making the SSD by that relation 17.6 KM.

Given the exponential disparities, we can take all the old RPG stats with a grain of salt. According to such stats, an Executor-class ship was only provided with less than half the ground vehicle complement, double the fighter complement, and triple the personnel complement of an ordinary Star Destroyer, whose volume it must exceed by a factor of hundreds.

The obvious conclusion to draw is this: Darth Vader's Star Destroyer which made its debut in the Empire Strikes Back was designed for its visual effect, and aura of domineering size. Its was not designed with nerdometric concerns in mind.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 27 2013 12:13 GMT
#25
Well Eldar Craftworlds are technically Starships and those are planetoid-sized and are supposed to house at least millions, but they never explicitly state a size because nerds would nitpick everything apart.
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Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
September 27 2013 12:14 GMT
#26
On September 27 2013 21:00 FFW_Rude wrote:
Biggest one is

SHIP NAME/TYPE: Dyson Sphere
DIAMETER: 200,000,000km
BUILDER/COMMENTS: "The Dyson Sphere was constructed over a million years ago by an unknown race, and abandoned several thousand years ago, presumably due to instability in the central star. The carbon-neutronium shell is approximately 2500 metres thick, and is presumed to contain circulation equipment for the Class-M environmental systems as well as artificial gravity and power generators, but this is an as-yet untested hypothesis, since only limited access has been gained and sensors are unable to penetrate the material. The upper atmosphere polarises to provide an artificial day/night cycle of 15.4 hours of light and 10.2 hours of darkness." From here.

SOURCE: Star Trek is where this particular iteration is derived from, however I will quote from Anders Sandberg's great site: "the The Dyson sphere (or Dyson shell) was originally proposed in 1959 by the astronomer Freeman Dyson as a way for an advanced civilization to utilise all of the energy radiated by their sun. It is an artificial sphere the size of an planetary orbit. The sphere would consist of a shell of solar collectors or habitats around the star, so that all (or at least a significant amount) energy will hit a receiving surface where it can be used. This would create a huge living space and gather enormous amounts of energy." see here for more information.


Never heard of it though

And for death stars




SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star II/ Mobile Command Base
DIAMETER: 160km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.)
BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet.
SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode VI (Film)


SHIP NAME/TYPE: Death Star/ Mobile Command Base
DIAMETER: 120km (official size, see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/ for an alternate size theory and discussion.)
BUILDER/COMMENTS: The Empire under Darth Sidious (human). Incorporated into the base is a laser-type weapon capable of destroying an entire Earth sized planet.
SOURCE: Star Wars, Episode IV (Film)

From http://www.merzo.net/

Dyson Spheres are a common trope in science-fiction. Hell, there's a dyson sphere in the Halo universe as well.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
September 27 2013 12:15 GMT
#27
I love the way he has a VHS screen quality clip of Red Dwarf on there.
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Sweden6375 Posts
September 27 2013 12:20 GMT
#28
On September 27 2013 19:26 Gulf wrote:
starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line

There is definitely something wrong with the SC2 comparison, the top part and the lower part don't match. I mean, look at the size of a phoenix and compare it to a marine. It's about half as big.
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Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark184 Posts
September 27 2013 12:42 GMT
#29
On September 27 2013 21:20 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 19:26 Gulf wrote:
starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line

There is definitely something wrong with the SC2 comparison, the top part and the lower part don't match. I mean, look at the size of a phoenix and compare it to a marine. It's about half as big.

The starcraft chart uses to different scales. Compare the broodlord to the left of the mothership to the one below it
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Profile Joined May 2010
Scotland213 Posts
September 27 2013 12:46 GMT
#30
I was talking about the numerical measurements given compared to what they look like in game
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Germany1130 Posts
September 27 2013 13:24 GMT
#31
talking about starships and not a single one from perry rhodan

i call bs
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Australia2229 Posts
September 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#32
On September 27 2013 21:20 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 19:26 Gulf wrote:
starcraft ships seem to have odd dimensions, over 2 km across for a mothership, yet its only about as wide as 15 marines in a line

There is definitely something wrong with the SC2 comparison, the top part and the lower part don't match. I mean, look at the size of a phoenix and compare it to a marine. It's about half as big.

Lol are you kidding...
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 27 2013 15:50 GMT
#33
Science Vessel is larger then I imagined, probably because I also imagined it to be piloted by one guy for some reason.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
September 27 2013 15:57 GMT
#34
On September 28 2013 00:50 Kipsate wrote:
Science Vessel is larger then I imagined, probably because I also imagined it to be piloted by one guy for some reason.

don't you remember one of those installation missions taking place inside a science vessel? they're clearly really big.
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
September 27 2013 16:15 GMT
#35
Now everything is clear.

BC's and Carriers were so much more badass in sc:bw because they were bigger, the ones in sc2 are small in comparison.

I just don't understand the Ultralisks though, they're so much smaller in bw yet so much better :p
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 16:43:47
September 27 2013 16:17 GMT
#36
I love those comparisons. there were plenty of mods for ST:Bridge Commander in which you could add ships from other universes...hell, the balance issues were limitless...think a Babylon 5 cruiser without shields firing his 100 weapon batteries on a much smaler ST ship with shields but quantum torpedos....and then a SW:star destroyer enters the battlefield...
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 16:46:26
September 27 2013 16:39 GMT
#37
Void rays are pretty freaking huge.

I'm curious as to why BW carrier is so much larger than SC2 carrier, unless BW is specifically the gantrithor.

The really big shockers for me were the science vessel, and void ray.

I think where the ultralisk sizes differ is from the cinematic(ultra crushing the siege tank, which is ~3m tall) being considered correct, so you get like a 15m tall ultralisk. In the books an ultra was ~half that height, although I think part of that is ultra's evolving a crest.

Behemoth class BC is the one in the HOTS mission, Minotaur IIRC is the generic SC2 class.
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Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
September 27 2013 16:42 GMT
#38
On September 28 2013 00:50 Kipsate wrote:
Science Vessel is larger then I imagined, probably because I also imagined it to be piloted by one guy for some reason.



Have you not played the SC1 campaign? :p
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
September 27 2013 16:55 GMT
#39
this cutscene...bringing back the good old sc1 campaign memories...
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Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1954 Posts
September 27 2013 16:56 GMT
#40
On September 27 2013 21:13 Caihead wrote:
Well Eldar Craftworlds are technically Starships and those are planetoid-sized and are supposed to house at least millions, but they never explicitly state a size because nerds would nitpick everything apart.

Bur then we should count ringworld, right? o_0
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Netherlands45349 Posts
September 27 2013 16:56 GMT
#41
oh right that was a science vessel

LOL
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gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
September 27 2013 17:08 GMT
#42
Needs the final robot from TTGL. The one that throws around galaxies.
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Washington, D.C9934 Posts
September 27 2013 17:12 GMT
#43
i wonder how big heighliners from Dune are in this context
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gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
September 27 2013 17:14 GMT
#44
On September 28 2013 02:12 intrigue wrote:
i wonder how big heighliners from Dune are in this context

http://www.bhalash.com/archives/1466603038
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Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
September 27 2013 18:15 GMT
#45
It only takes 5 of those tiny scourge to bring down a carrier. Zerg OP
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Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
September 27 2013 18:18 GMT
#46
On September 28 2013 02:08 gedatsu wrote:
Needs the final robot from TTGL. The one that throws around galaxies.


Am i a mad nerd when i say i don´t like that anime mechas participate in this? :>
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CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
September 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#47
Fuck this is awesome
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
September 27 2013 18:49 GMT
#48
What i would like to be added (to the site):
Eldar Craftworld
Andromeda
Magog Worldship (or however it was celled)
Other ships from SG-1 (Anubis Hatak for example, wraith ships, Ori ships)
Ship from System Shock 2
That Shadow Doom-net from Babylon5 (or however it was called)
Ships from Hyperion (i know they were small just for comparison)

PS. Ringworld is included on the site
PS.2 I Agree leave anime and manga out of this.

Pathetic Greta hater.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1954 Posts
September 27 2013 18:58 GMT
#49
We definitely need some Culture ships in here.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
September 27 2013 19:01 GMT
#50
Hmm, are you sure these are to-scale models? Take for example, this picture below:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The Homeworld Bentusi in the middle is 450m approx., but it's bigger than the 2464m Protoss Mothership?!?!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 19:06:04
September 27 2013 19:05 GMT
#51
On September 28 2013 04:01 HereBeDragons wrote:
Hmm, are you sure these are to-scale models? Take for example, this picture below:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The Homeworld Bentusi in the middle is 450m approx., but it's bigger than the 2464m Protoss Mothership?!?!


Most likely explanation is that the guy missed a zero. His scale is fine.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
September 27 2013 19:08 GMT
#52
My only guess is that they forgot to add a 0 on that homeworld ship. if he were 4600m, the ship would be on scale
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
September 27 2013 19:25 GMT
#53
This is sweet. I wanna also see Durandal, Elsa, Dammerung, and other ships from Xenosaga, as well as the Eldridge from Xenogears. And of course, Spaceball 1.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 19:47:47
September 27 2013 19:45 GMT
#54
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
September 27 2013 19:54 GMT
#55
Lol dude theres like milion of other (more serious and intermediate) problems regarding that construction
Pathetic Greta hater.
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
September 27 2013 20:04 GMT
#56
On September 28 2013 03:18 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:08 gedatsu wrote:
Needs the final robot from TTGL. The one that throws around galaxies.


Am i a mad nerd when i say i don´t like that anime mechas participate in this? :>


I agree, but I wouldn't mind some of the iconic gundam stuff for reference.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
September 27 2013 20:11 GMT
#57
There are some anime ships in there on the bottom-right of the Caldari leviathan, though not from a large variety of shows.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes occupies most of the anime ships.
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
September 27 2013 20:19 GMT
#58
Not a huge Starwars fan but man that Executive class super star destroyer (big white thin one) looks pretty damn sexy.
Inno pls...
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 27 2013 20:28 GMT
#59
it's not about the size of your spaceship it's the size of your laser that really matters.

macross wins!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 20:31:30
September 27 2013 20:31 GMT
#60
the super star destroyer is the most badass ship ever imagined, period.
I like starcraft
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
September 27 2013 20:39 GMT
#61
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.
MWY
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 21:08:50
September 27 2013 21:07 GMT
#62
Wow this makes we want to play star wars: empire at war again.

With the Awakening of the rebellion mod, space battles were so epic and huge. And they had almost everything star wars related included as far as I remember. SSD's, casual star destroyers, etc. Awesome times.

Some pics:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3968/screen1mjw.jpg

http://s3b.directupload.net/images/user/090517/val9o8kn.jpg
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 27 2013 21:11 GMT
#63
On September 28 2013 05:28 Gamegene wrote:
it's not about the size of your spaceship it's the size of your laser that really matters.

macross wins!

Its your flow of how you shoot missiles.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 27 2013 21:54 GMT
#64
I am disappointed by the distinct lack of Phalanx.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 27 2013 21:57 GMT
#65
An scv is larger then a hydralisk? TT
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 22:27:22
September 27 2013 22:25 GMT
#66
On September 27 2013 21:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
The obvious conclusion to draw is this: Darth Vader's Star Destroyer which made its debut in the Empire Strikes Back was designed for its visual effect, and aura of domineering size. Its was not designed with nerdometric concerns in mind.

Isn't this true for basically everything in Star Wars? When have they ever approached it like typical science fiction, rather than space opera/fantasy?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 27 2013 22:36 GMT
#67
no love for dune? a heighliner from dune is over 20km long. there are other stuff like no-ships that can hold le worms of arrakis
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
September 27 2013 22:51 GMT
#68
Well, to be fair SW can get away with going nearly full fantasy with some of its stuff given that the action is set in a different galaxy that evolved in its own way.

The history of SW is also phenomenally long, with something ridiculous along the lines of hyper-drive being first developed 100k years before the battle of Yavin, the force being discovered 35k years before the battle of Yavin. And all along there have been millions of wars that have raged forcing the acceleration of technology or the destruction of some.

The only other comparably long timeline is the Warhammer universe which had its history span 40k years, only 40% of the length of SW and for vast periods of time solar systems where in isolation from each other due to chaos storms, so technological sharing and development was substantially slowed.

Yeah I can imagine technology developing at a rather frightening rate and able to reach nearly absurd levels of sophistication in 100k years.
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Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
September 28 2013 00:54 GMT
#69
Ah, lore wise -- how do 12 marines shoot down a Battlecruiser?
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
September 28 2013 02:11 GMT
#70
How do 2 scourge take down a science vessel or 5 scourge take down a carrier?
claybones
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States244 Posts
September 28 2013 02:17 GMT
#71
It's kind of hilarious thinking of that massive void ray being out ranged by the tiny viking and phoenix.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 28 2013 04:03 GMT
#72
On September 28 2013 06:57 Yorbon wrote:
An scv is larger then a hydralisk? TT

SCVs are actually massive. That glass in the front is a cockpit, not a visor.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
And G
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany491 Posts
September 28 2013 04:18 GMT
#73
What is a Grizzly and why have I never heard of it before?
not a community mapmaker
NeuroticPsychosis
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States322 Posts
September 28 2013 04:19 GMT
#74
I thought battlecruisers would be bigger
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 28 2013 07:03 GMT
#75
Yay, SG-1! I love me some flying pyramids.
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
September 28 2013 07:25 GMT
#76
I thought Aberrations would be bigger, according to the campaign...
Poffel
Profile Joined March 2011
471 Posts
September 28 2013 07:41 GMT
#77
On September 28 2013 07:51 Destructicon wrote:
Well, to be fair SW can get away with going nearly full fantasy with some of its stuff given that the action is set in a different galaxy that evolved in its own way.

The history of SW is also phenomenally long, with something ridiculous along the lines of hyper-drive being first developed 100k years before the battle of Yavin, the force being discovered 35k years before the battle of Yavin. And all along there have been millions of wars that have raged forcing the acceleration of technology or the destruction of some.

The only other comparably long timeline is the Warhammer universe which had its history span 40k years, only 40% of the length of SW and for vast periods of time solar systems where in isolation from each other due to chaos storms, so technological sharing and development was substantially slowed.

Yeah I can imagine technology developing at a rather frightening rate and able to reach nearly absurd levels of sophistication in 100k years.

Not to be nitpicky, but technically the 40k refers to the Imperial calendar. Other species, such as Necrons and Eldar, supposedly had warp-tunneling technology billions of years before homo sapiens even evolved, so the overall history of technological development in the WH40k is considerably longer... however, as you pointed out, it's not precisely a history of technological advancement because much knowledge has been lost to ongoing wars and catastrophes (so that some types of old machinery display mechanisms than the current state of the art cannot even begin to comprehend, so that they are now operated by priests rather than engineers).
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11542 Posts
September 28 2013 07:41 GMT
#78
On September 28 2013 05:39 h41fgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.


Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits.

Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
September 28 2013 07:45 GMT
#79
Stargate's Wraith Hive looks a little too big. Or is it the Super-Hive from the SGA series finale?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 08:00:20
September 28 2013 07:57 GMT
#80
this is irritating and soo cool at the same time.

but i really wonder how the magog worldship from andromeda would fit in. theoretically, it had the size of an entire solar system. so in theory, it would need to have a diameter which is about 25 times bigger than that of the dyson sphere...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6183 Posts
September 28 2013 08:01 GMT
#81
Wow, this blew my mind.
Where are these stats coming from? I always used to think Battlecruisers were massive.
<3
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
September 28 2013 08:21 GMT
#82
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:39 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.


Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits.

Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere.

Producing enough steel to build a Death Star (the small one), would take Earths entire production with projected increases for the next 178 years or so. The technology we would have when a dyson sphere is the least bit feasible will be insane. Though rings and or plates are a likely start for a dyson sphere.
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
September 28 2013 08:33 GMT
#83
On September 27 2013 19:20 -Kaiser- wrote:
Dune ships? I think the guild heighliner is 20 000 metres long.


Definitely needs Dune ships.
knuckle
Elizar
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany431 Posts
September 28 2013 08:43 GMT
#84
Can´t find space hulks from warhammer 40k.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
September 28 2013 09:02 GMT
#85
Ringworld, the biggest. Fuck yea!

HIP NAME/TYPE: Ringworld
DIAMETER: 299 300 000 km
BUILDER/COMMENTS: Ringworld was built, of course, by the Ringworld builders. "Ringworld", by Larry Niven, is one of the most scale-intensive science fiction stories ever written, and is a classic of the genre. Essentially, the Ringworld is a gargantuan habitable surface almost 300 million km in diameter, and 1.6 million km wide.
SOURCE: Ringworld, by Larry Niven (Novel)


I read that book. :D
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Nacl(Draq)
Profile Joined February 2011
United States302 Posts
September 28 2013 10:59 GMT
#86
On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.


If I remember correctly the independence day mothership was roughly 1/3rd the size of the moon. The deathstar is the size of a moon so I think they win.
Gulf
Profile Joined May 2010
Scotland213 Posts
September 28 2013 11:33 GMT
#87
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:39 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.


Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits.

Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere.


The issue of having many objects orbiting around all the different great circles of a star is that its a lot harder to get things to orbit some parts of a star than others. There's a reason why all the planets in our solar system orbit on almost the same plane, and if assume that plane to be the approximate "equator of the sun" for purpose of being able to visualise, then when you try to have an object orbit from pole to pole you would find its unlikely it would maintain that orbit. And this is completely ignoring likelihood of collisions with all the crossing orbit paths.
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
September 28 2013 12:29 GMT
#88
On September 28 2013 17:01 dravernor wrote:
Wow, this blew my mind.
Where are these stats coming from? I always used to think Battlecruisers were massive.


A lot of the stats probably gets provided by the lore, or simply the Dev's provided with them at some point. It must have taken ages to collect them all, and then make or find the models so they can scale it all correctly.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11542 Posts
September 28 2013 16:48 GMT
#89
On September 28 2013 20:33 Gulf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote:
On September 28 2013 05:39 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.


Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits.

Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere.


The issue of having many objects orbiting around all the different great circles of a star is that its a lot harder to get things to orbit some parts of a star than others. There's a reason why all the planets in our solar system orbit on almost the same plane, and if assume that plane to be the approximate "equator of the sun" for purpose of being able to visualise, then when you try to have an object orbit from pole to pole you would find its unlikely it would maintain that orbit. And this is completely ignoring likelihood of collisions with all the crossing orbit paths.


The main reason all the planets are ~ on a plane is that they evolved out of exactly that, a turning flatish disc thingy. It is not fundamentally harder to orbit the sun in any other direction. And of course you would have to plan the whole thing very, very carefully, not only because of collisions, but also because all the objects would interact with each other through gravity which could easily disturb the orbits so some of the satellites collide. Still a lot easier then produce a solid shell.
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
September 28 2013 17:03 GMT
#90
Amazing. I can't imagine what kind of resources it would take to build something that large. Would be hilarious if someone messes up somewhere and two halves of a 100km ship don't fit together.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 17:24:54
September 28 2013 17:23 GMT
#91
On September 28 2013 17:21 h41fgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote:
On September 28 2013 05:39 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.


Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits.

Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere.

Producing enough steel to build a Death Star (the small one), would take Earths entire production with projected increases for the next 178 years or so. The technology we would have when a dyson sphere is the least bit feasible will be insane. Though rings and or plates are a likely start for a dyson sphere.



No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier.
And if we would have the technology to build a dyson sphere,we would be so advanced that there would be no need for a sun annymore, and with that no reason for a sphere. Realy think that no such thing will ever exist in this universe.
unfortunatly i might add though
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 28 2013 17:41 GMT
#92
Can we consider Shellwords from the Culture universe as Ships? Because They are technically 9 planets in 1 artificial planet.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11865 Posts
September 28 2013 18:33 GMT
#93
On September 29 2013 02:23 Rassy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 17:21 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote:
On September 28 2013 05:39 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.


Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits.

Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere.

Producing enough steel to build a Death Star (the small one), would take Earths entire production with projected increases for the next 178 years or so. The technology we would have when a dyson sphere is the least bit feasible will be insane. Though rings and or plates are a likely start for a dyson sphere.



No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier.
And if we would have the technology to build a dyson sphere,we would be so advanced that there would be no need for a sun annymore, and with that no reason for a sphere. Realy think that no such thing will ever exist in this universe.
unfortunatly i might add though


There is one reason a a Dyson Sphere might be built. Hiding a star from somebody. This assumes cross galactic wars and being on the losing side.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
September 28 2013 19:01 GMT
#94
On September 29 2013 03:33 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 02:23 Rassy wrote:
On September 28 2013 17:21 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote:
On September 28 2013 05:39 h41fgod wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:45 Rassy wrote:
Oh only now see the dyson sphere.
Wonder if this is actually viable, wouldnt it get incredibly hot inside as all radiation stays inside?
And how to prevent it from exploding due to the build up of heat?
I read about the concept before but when you think about it, it seems kinda impossible no matter how advanced technology is.

It is essentially the size of a solar system. Heat buildup would not be a problem, especially not since it is hypothetically designed to use all the energy for something.


Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits.

Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere.

Producing enough steel to build a Death Star (the small one), would take Earths entire production with projected increases for the next 178 years or so. The technology we would have when a dyson sphere is the least bit feasible will be insane. Though rings and or plates are a likely start for a dyson sphere.



No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier.
And if we would have the technology to build a dyson sphere,we would be so advanced that there would be no need for a sun annymore, and with that no reason for a sphere. Realy think that no such thing will ever exist in this universe.
unfortunatly i might add though


There is one reason a a Dyson Sphere might be built. Hiding a star from somebody. This assumes cross galactic wars and being on the losing side.

Or it's Monday.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
September 28 2013 19:18 GMT
#95
another issue i see with the dyson sphere are objects from outside colliding with it. there are asteroids entering the inner solar system all the time, many of them being absolutely massive. how would the outer side of the dyson sphere be protected against these impacts?
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
And G
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany491 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 19:20:56
September 28 2013 19:20 GMT
#96
On September 29 2013 02:23 Rassy wrote:
No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier.

Pretty sure there's no Dyson sphere in Star Wars...
not a community mapmaker
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
September 28 2013 19:45 GMT
#97
On September 29 2013 04:18 Black Gun wrote:
another issue i see with the dyson sphere are objects from outside colliding with it. there are asteroids entering the inner solar system all the time, many of them being absolutely massive. how would the outer side of the dyson sphere be protected against these impacts?

If you can build a dyson sphere I'm pretty sure protecting yourself from asteroids would be trivial. Plus you used them all to build your dyson sphere anyways.
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
September 28 2013 19:48 GMT
#98
Where's deep space nine? Okay, it's not quite a ship, per se, but I'm sure it can technically move if necessary and it is fiction, so throw me a bone here
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2013 19:58 GMT
#99
This is really cool! They should expand this
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11542 Posts
September 28 2013 20:03 GMT
#100
On September 29 2013 04:48 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Where's deep space nine? Okay, it's not quite a ship, per se, but I'm sure it can technically move if necessary and it is fiction, so throw me a bone here


It can move a bit, they moved it towards the wormhole in the first episode. But i doubt you can call that a spaceship.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#101
The Yggdrasil from Hyperion is the biggest I've read/seen/heard of, iirc.
KTY
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
September 28 2013 20:20 GMT
#102
On September 29 2013 04:20 And G wrote:
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On September 29 2013 02:23 Rassy wrote:
No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier.

Pretty sure there's no Dyson sphere in Star Wars...


He must be thinking of Star Trek.

But on a star wars releated note. I found this lol ^__^

White House petition

In late 2012, a petition was submitted to the White House website urging that the United States government build a real Death Star as an economic stimulus and a means to ensure people got back to work again, and wanted its completion by 2016 at the earliest.

The petition gained more than 25,000 signatures, ensuring that an official response be supplied. In early 2013, the proposal was rejected (in a tongue-and-cheek manner), citing that the overall cost of the Death Star's construction would amount to a cost exceeding $852 quadrillion, and would take 833,000 years before it could even be ready for construction due to the rate of steel production.

Another reason for the rejection was also because the Government "did not support blowing up planets
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h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
September 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#103
On September 29 2013 05:12 Xxio wrote:
The Yggdrasil from Hyperion is the biggest I've read/seen/heard of, iirc.

Had to look up the size of a tree ship... But it is smaller than a standard Star Destroyer from Star Wars at a kilometer in length or so.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
September 28 2013 21:57 GMT
#104
On September 29 2013 05:03 Simberto wrote:
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On September 29 2013 04:48 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Where's deep space nine? Okay, it's not quite a ship, per se, but I'm sure it can technically move if necessary and it is fiction, so throw me a bone here


It can move a bit, they moved it towards the wormhole in the first episode. But i doubt you can call that a spaceship.

deep space nine is fairly small anyhow compaired to some of thoes ships, roughly 1½ km in diameters
Aiello
Profile Joined September 2013
6 Posts
September 28 2013 22:03 GMT
#105
No death start?
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 22:16:54
September 28 2013 22:16 GMT
#106
On September 29 2013 07:03 Aiello wrote:
No death start?



The thought must have been that it wouldn't fit on the page

But seriously it would be interesting to see how far they would have to "zoom out" to add in the Death Star.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 28 2013 23:38 GMT
#107
On September 29 2013 05:30 h41fgod wrote:
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On September 29 2013 05:12 Xxio wrote:
The Yggdrasil from Hyperion is the biggest I've read/seen/heard of, iirc.

Had to look up the size of a tree ship... But it is smaller than a standard Star Destroyer from Star Wars at a kilometer in length or so.


I'm pretty sure it's written as larger than planets, at least in the Cantos books.

Another huge one would be the spaceship (or whatever it is) in Childhood's End.
KTY
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 28 2013 23:43 GMT
#108
No Magog World Ship(s)?
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
September 28 2013 23:59 GMT
#109
On September 29 2013 07:03 Aiello wrote:
No death start?

they said they didn't add the death star because it was a station, and not a ship
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 29 2013 00:01 GMT
#110
On September 28 2013 19:59 Nacl(Draq) wrote:
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On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote:
I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there.


If I remember correctly the independence day mothership was roughly 1/3rd the size of the moon. The deathstar is the size of a moon so I think they win.

The size of a small moon. the ship from independence day also shit out like 20 5mile across smaller ships iirc.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11542 Posts
September 29 2013 00:31 GMT
#111
Yeah, and "A small moon" could be something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deimos_(moon), which is a lot smaller then a third of our moon Luna, no matter how you measure "a third".
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 00:04:13
October 01 2013 00:03 GMT
#112
The original site has the death star, the Independence Day mothership, and others compared to our moon Luna.
http://www.merzo.net/
There are footnotes explaining how he got the measurements and stuff too.

Edit: Under the -2000x tab
MotorDouglas
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil66 Posts
October 01 2013 00:33 GMT
#113
does anyone know the size of the ishimura fro dead space and how it would compare to other ships?
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Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
October 01 2013 03:00 GMT
#114
On October 01 2013 09:33 MotorDouglas wrote:
does anyone know the size of the ishimura fro dead space and how it would compare to other ships?


At 1.6 KM it would be fairly small compared to the biggest ships there.
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
October 01 2013 03:23 GMT
#115
We don't have the biggest star ships?? Someone start a thread.
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