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dravernor
Netherlands6191 Posts
Where are these stats coming from? I always used to think Battlecruisers were massive. | ||
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote: Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits. Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere. Producing enough steel to build a Death Star (the small one), would take Earths entire production with projected increases for the next 178 years or so. The technology we would have when a dyson sphere is the least bit feasible will be insane. Though rings and or plates are a likely start for a dyson sphere. | ||
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
On September 27 2013 19:20 -Kaiser- wrote: Dune ships? I think the guild heighliner is 20 000 metres long. Definitely needs Dune ships. | ||
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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
HIP NAME/TYPE: Ringworld DIAMETER: 299 300 000 km BUILDER/COMMENTS: Ringworld was built, of course, by the Ringworld builders. "Ringworld", by Larry Niven, is one of the most scale-intensive science fiction stories ever written, and is a classic of the genre. Essentially, the Ringworld is a gargantuan habitable surface almost 300 million km in diameter, and 1.6 million km wide. SOURCE: Ringworld, by Larry Niven (Novel) I read that book. :D | ||
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Nacl(Draq)
United States302 Posts
On September 27 2013 18:34 DaCruise wrote: I dont see the Death Star or the mothership from Independence Day. Those are prolly the biggest out there. If I remember correctly the independence day mothership was roughly 1/3rd the size of the moon. The deathstar is the size of a moon so I think they win. | ||
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Gulf
Scotland213 Posts
On September 28 2013 16:41 Simberto wrote: Yeah, that is kind of the whole point of the dyson sphere, to completely harvest the energy a star emits. Also, afaik the general idea of a dyson sphere is usually NOT to have a solid sphere, but a huge amount of smaller orbiting segments which in total absorb all of the energy of the star. Which is a lot more viable, since it is pretty easy to get something to circle a star, while you would need an absurdly strong material to actually build a sphere the size of a solar system because you could only cancel out gravity with centrifugal force on a ring, not a sphere. The issue of having many objects orbiting around all the different great circles of a star is that its a lot harder to get things to orbit some parts of a star than others. There's a reason why all the planets in our solar system orbit on almost the same plane, and if assume that plane to be the approximate "equator of the sun" for purpose of being able to visualise, then when you try to have an object orbit from pole to pole you would find its unlikely it would maintain that orbit. And this is completely ignoring likelihood of collisions with all the crossing orbit paths. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
On September 28 2013 17:01 dravernor wrote: Wow, this blew my mind. Where are these stats coming from? I always used to think Battlecruisers were massive. A lot of the stats probably gets provided by the lore, or simply the Dev's provided with them at some point. It must have taken ages to collect them all, and then make or find the models so they can scale it all correctly. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11686 Posts
On September 28 2013 20:33 Gulf wrote: The issue of having many objects orbiting around all the different great circles of a star is that its a lot harder to get things to orbit some parts of a star than others. There's a reason why all the planets in our solar system orbit on almost the same plane, and if assume that plane to be the approximate "equator of the sun" for purpose of being able to visualise, then when you try to have an object orbit from pole to pole you would find its unlikely it would maintain that orbit. And this is completely ignoring likelihood of collisions with all the crossing orbit paths. The main reason all the planets are ~ on a plane is that they evolved out of exactly that, a turning flatish disc thingy. It is not fundamentally harder to orbit the sun in any other direction. And of course you would have to plan the whole thing very, very carefully, not only because of collisions, but also because all the objects would interact with each other through gravity which could easily disturb the orbits so some of the satellites collide. Still a lot easier then produce a solid shell. | ||
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B1nary
Canada1267 Posts
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
On September 28 2013 17:21 h41fgod wrote: Producing enough steel to build a Death Star (the small one), would take Earths entire production with projected increases for the next 178 years or so. The technology we would have when a dyson sphere is the least bit feasible will be insane. Though rings and or plates are a likely start for a dyson sphere. No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier. And if we would have the technology to build a dyson sphere,we would be so advanced that there would be no need for a sun annymore, and with that no reason for a sphere. Realy think that no such thing will ever exist in this universe. unfortunatly i might add though  | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Yurie
11960 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:23 Rassy wrote: No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier. And if we would have the technology to build a dyson sphere,we would be so advanced that there would be no need for a sun annymore, and with that no reason for a sphere. Realy think that no such thing will ever exist in this universe. unfortunatly i might add though There is one reason a a Dyson Sphere might be built. Hiding a star from somebody. This assumes cross galactic wars and being on the losing side. | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On September 29 2013 03:33 Yurie wrote: There is one reason a a Dyson Sphere might be built. Hiding a star from somebody. This assumes cross galactic wars and being on the losing side. Or it's Monday. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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And G
Germany491 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:23 Rassy wrote: No civilisation will ever build a dyson sphere,Have you calculated how much material would be needed to build one at the seize of earth,s orbit? the one from starwars is supposed to be 2500km thick. It is not viable at al for so manny reasons like someone else said earlier. Pretty sure there's no Dyson sphere in Star Wars... | ||
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Coriolis
United States1152 Posts
On September 29 2013 04:18 Black Gun wrote: another issue i see with the dyson sphere are objects from outside colliding with it. there are asteroids entering the inner solar system all the time, many of them being absolutely massive. how would the outer side of the dyson sphere be protected against these impacts? If you can build a dyson sphere I'm pretty sure protecting yourself from asteroids would be trivial. Plus you used them all to build your dyson sphere anyways. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11686 Posts
On September 29 2013 04:48 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Where's deep space nine? Okay, it's not quite a ship, per se, but I'm sure it can technically move if necessary and it is fiction, so throw me a bone here It can move a bit, they moved it towards the wormhole in the first episode. But i doubt you can call that a spaceship. | ||
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