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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44297 Posts
August 01 2017 18:43 GMT
#7401
On August 02 2017 03:41 bardtown wrote:
The most pampered generation in the history of the human race whining about how hard they have it never ceases to make me feel ill. I don't know about your grandparents but mine fought in wars and did hard labour.

Which wars?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 01 2017 18:43 GMT
#7402
My grandfather fought in WW2 and my father build a business out of a freezing garage and 70 hour work weeks. And both them told me never to take shit from people telling me my problems didn’t matter.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22597 Posts
August 01 2017 18:43 GMT
#7403
On August 02 2017 03:41 bardtown wrote:
The most pampered generation in the history of the human race whining about how hard they have it never ceases to make me feel ill. I don't know about your grandparents but mine fought in wars and did hard labour.

'the most pampered generation' is also the first generation to not earn more then their parents but that doesn't help your narrative I guess.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
August 01 2017 18:43 GMT
#7404
We are like 5 posts away from "BABY BOOMERS FUCKED UP THE WORLD FOR ALL OF US" and "OLD PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DIE SOON ANYWAY".

User was warned for this post
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
August 01 2017 18:47 GMT
#7405
On August 02 2017 03:43 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:41 bardtown wrote:
The most pampered generation in the history of the human race whining about how hard they have it never ceases to make me feel ill. I don't know about your grandparents but mine fought in wars and did hard labour.

Which wars?

WW2 and Malaysia. Great grandfather fought in both world wars.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44297 Posts
August 01 2017 18:47 GMT
#7406
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 18:52:05
August 01 2017 18:51 GMT
#7407
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.

SC2 player, sure. BW and before, totally possible. But my grandfather died two years ago at 90+ years old.

On August 02 2017 03:43 Ghostcom wrote:
We are like 5 posts away from "BABY BOOMERS FUCKED UP THE WORLD FOR ALL OF US" and "OLD PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DIE SOON ANYWAY".


And young people should respect their elders that had to walk up hill both ways to school and didn’t have Iphones.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
August 01 2017 18:51 GMT
#7408
Nevertheless, a country is the aggregate product of the generations which have built it up, and even if they did not fight in WW2 they endured the poor conditions following the war.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 18:52:05
August 01 2017 18:51 GMT
#7409
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.


Yeah my grandfathers both fought in WW2, one of them is dead now and the other is unfortunately too senile to vote.

RIP Meatloaf <3
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44297 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 18:54:37
August 01 2017 18:53 GMT
#7410
On August 02 2017 03:51 bardtown wrote:
Nevertheless, a country is the aggregate product of the generations which have built it up, and even if they did not fight in WW2 they endured the poor conditions following the war.

I'll admit I can't begin to imagine the struggle of the current retirees, born 35 years too young to fight in WWII. Growing up in the 60s must have been a true challenge, what with the full employment and the free tertiary education.

At a certain point the boomers have to stop riding off the coattails of their fathers.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
August 01 2017 18:53 GMT
#7411
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.


Let's not forget it was the WWII generation that voted us into the EU.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
August 01 2017 18:54 GMT
#7412
On August 02 2017 03:53 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:51 bardtown wrote:
Nevertheless, a country is the aggregate product of the generations which have built it up, and even if they did not fight in WW2 they endured the poor conditions following the war.

I'll admit I can't begin to imagine the struggle of the current retirees, born 35 years too young to fight in WWII. Growing up in the 60s must have been a true challenge, what with the full employment and the free tertiary education.


So difficult, in fact, that they wouldn't want their own kids and grandkids to have to go through those conditions. Go to the food bank and be grateful.
RIP Meatloaf <3
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44297 Posts
August 01 2017 18:56 GMT
#7413
On August 02 2017 03:53 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.


Let's not forget it was the WWII generation that voted us into the EU.

Churchill was a big proponent of using economic integration as a means to prevent war. He didn't necessarily believe Britain should be in the EU but he certainly thought there should be one.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 19:00:27
August 01 2017 18:57 GMT
#7414
On August 02 2017 03:51 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.

SC2 player, sure. BW and before, totally possible. But my grandfather died two years ago at 90+ years old.

Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:43 Ghostcom wrote:
We are like 5 posts away from "BABY BOOMERS FUCKED UP THE WORLD FOR ALL OF US" and "OLD PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DIE SOON ANYWAY".


And young people should respect their elders that had to walk up hill both ways to school and didn’t have Iphones.


Well people sure as shit shouldn't call others egoistic based on an single answer to a poll with likely only "yes" and "no" as an answer...

And while we are at it: You should probably start apologizing for your voting as well. Every single time anyone votes, regardless of who we vote for, we will negatively impact someone (in most cases we don't know them personally). The only remarkable thing about your example is that your brother apparently lacks conviction or voted ignorantly.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 19:04:43
August 01 2017 19:02 GMT
#7415
On August 02 2017 03:53 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:51 bardtown wrote:
Nevertheless, a country is the aggregate product of the generations which have built it up, and even if they did not fight in WW2 they endured the poor conditions following the war.

I'll admit I can't begin to imagine the struggle of the current retirees, born 35 years too young to fight in WWII. Growing up in the 60s must have been a true challenge, what with the full employment and the free tertiary education.

At a certain point the boomers have to stop riding off the coattails of their fathers.

Don’t forget the massive economic boom created by the full electricity services for the country, the assembly line and all the other leaps that increased productivity. The internet is cool, but is its not basic phones or commercial airplanes.

On August 02 2017 03:57 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:51 Plansix wrote:
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.

SC2 player, sure. BW and before, totally possible. But my grandfather died two years ago at 90+ years old.

On August 02 2017 03:43 Ghostcom wrote:
We are like 5 posts away from "BABY BOOMERS FUCKED UP THE WORLD FOR ALL OF US" and "OLD PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DIE SOON ANYWAY".


And young people should respect their elders that had to walk up hill both ways to school and didn’t have Iphones.


Well people sure as shit shouldn't call others egoistic based on an single answer to a poll with likely only "yes" and "no" as an answer...

And while we are at it: You should probably start apologizing for your voting as well. Every single time anyone votes, regardless of who we vote for, we will negatively impact someone (in most cases we don't know them personally). The only remarkable thing about your example is that your brother apparently lacks conviction or voted ignorantly.


Yes, you should apologize if how you voted ending up negatively impacting someone. We should all have the respect for our fellow citizens to acknowledge their hardships and that we may have contributed to them, even if we didn’t mean to.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14210 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 19:08:59
August 01 2017 19:03 GMT
#7416
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.

My granddad died in Normandy and my great uncle died on the beaches. It happened. they were in their late twenties so the time frame works out a little better.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22597 Posts
August 01 2017 19:07 GMT
#7417
we're talking about the 60+ years old catagory, while there is sadly no age group above it to further differentiate I think I can safely say most of 60+ is Baby Boomers and not WW2 vets.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44297 Posts
August 01 2017 19:08 GMT
#7418
On August 02 2017 04:03 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.

My granddad died in Normandy and my great uncle died on the beaches. It happened.

And I have no complaints about how either of them voted in Brexit. Most retirees aren't 90 though. The WWII generation and the current retiree generation are distinct things with very little overlap.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14210 Posts
August 01 2017 19:10 GMT
#7419
On August 02 2017 04:08 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 04:03 Sermokala wrote:
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.

My granddad died in Normandy and my great uncle died on the beaches. It happened.

And I have no complaints about how either of them voted in Brexit. Most retirees aren't 90 though. The WWII generation and the current retiree generation are distinct things with very little overlap.

Oh god no they weren't British they were a generation removed from germany. I would imagine the draft hit younger people in WW2 in the UK more then it did other places. I'm just saying the draft hit people outside of protected crafts from 20-40 in most countries or so.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 19:14:56
August 01 2017 19:12 GMT
#7420
On August 02 2017 04:02 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:57 Ghostcom wrote:
On August 02 2017 03:51 Plansix wrote:
On August 02 2017 03:47 KwarK wrote:
It's pretty unlikely that the grandfather of the average SC2 player would have been old enough to have fought in WWII. You'd need two generations of having kids late for that to be true. We're now 72 years from the end of WWII, you'd have to be 90 to have been 18 in 1945. 96 to have been 18 in 1939. For some reason people like to insist that current retirees are the WWII generation but it's simply untrue.

SC2 player, sure. BW and before, totally possible. But my grandfather died two years ago at 90+ years old.

On August 02 2017 03:43 Ghostcom wrote:
We are like 5 posts away from "BABY BOOMERS FUCKED UP THE WORLD FOR ALL OF US" and "OLD PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DIE SOON ANYWAY".


And young people should respect their elders that had to walk up hill both ways to school and didn’t have Iphones.


Well people sure as shit shouldn't call others egoistic based on an single answer to a poll with likely only "yes" and "no" as an answer...

And while we are at it: You should probably start apologizing for your voting as well. Every single time anyone votes, regardless of who we vote for, we will negatively impact someone (in most cases we don't know them personally). The only remarkable thing about your example is that your brother apparently lacks conviction or voted ignorantly.


Yes, you should apologize if how you voted ending up negatively impacting someone. We should all have the respect for our fellow citizens to acknowledge their hardships and that we may have contributed to them, even if we didn’t mean to.


I'm very curios: Have you ever actually apologized to anyone for how you voted?

Also: would it ever make you change your vote?

EDIT: For example - I would like an apology for you voting Obama in 2012. The man has literally incurred a loss of 14 USD because I had to apply for an ESTA (free until Obama changed it).
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