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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11824 Posts
January 18 2017 11:36 GMT
#5241
Average doesn't mean shit, at least look at median.

If the boss of a 1000 people company owns 2 million € more, and each of the 1000 employees owns 1000€ less, average income has increased by 1000€, yet everyone except the boss still has less money now.
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
January 18 2017 12:00 GMT
#5242
Imagine my shock when bardtown fails to understand what an average is, how little it explains, and the obvious possibility of higher earners just earning more yet the lower class earning the same or less. It's also only a poll concerning 100,000 people with no insight into the parameters of population(s) chosen.

You use polls when the headline suits you then discard any poll that does not. At least this one is current as opposed to your last link to the NI situation of 1973 rofl.
Did you actually read this part?;

But because it's a survey, the results are only estimates.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
January 18 2017 12:06 GMT
#5243
Provide some contrary statistics then, you absolute dimwit. If you can show median wages falling or inequality soaring then we can look at it in more detail.

The number of full-time workers was 209,000 higher at 23.25 million people, while the total of part-time employees jumped 86,000 to 8.55 million.


As usual you have absolutely nothing but your bias to support your posts.

User was warned for this post
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 12:31:40
January 18 2017 12:30 GMT
#5244
Skepticism isn't bias. You're aware that this is only for the 3 months leading up to November 2016? It doesn't really matter with you anyways.
At least you now agree that Scotland rightfully deserves its' independance, I mean not intentionally but I'll take it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-french-president-francois-hollande-nazi-brexit-eu-a7532981.html

Boris is truly a disgrace.. I cannot exagerate how badly it will taken to have compared any part of what France or any other occupied country will do to the Nazis... Let the train crash begin.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
January 18 2017 12:34 GMT
#5245
On January 18 2017 21:06 bardtown wrote:
you absolute dimwit.


Ahh British insults, I love it.

Disappointingly uninteresting PMQ today.
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
January 18 2017 12:36 GMT
#5246
" The Iron lady?" More like the "Irony Lady" PMQs rake with maturity as usual, at least they all pathetically yayed and nawed like school children as to not disapoint.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 14:36:04
January 18 2017 14:35 GMT
#5247
PMQs never be good for a long time due to May and Corbyn have the combined charisma of a shovel. Add in the sausage that is Nicola Sturgon and well it is just silly.

Now if Mr Boris were to stand in for May then it would be good fun. His latest comments about France were hilarious!
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2551 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 14:39:54
January 18 2017 14:39 GMT
#5248
I remember about tenish or so years ago, for a university project I watched a bunch of PMQ with Gordon Brown and David Cameron. It was pretty savage. May and Corbyn are boring by comparison.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 14:41:41
January 18 2017 14:41 GMT
#5249
Yeah David Cameron i could listen to for a long time, even Tony Blair had charisma when he opened his mouth. Gordon Brown was just funny to watch, squirm and eventually perish by his own sword too. Since these times i haven't watched any PMQs but i still follow what happens just don't actively watch.
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bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
January 18 2017 15:06 GMT
#5250
Anybody who pretends to be offended by BoJo's latest is just outing themself as disingenuous.
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
January 18 2017 15:46 GMT
#5251
BoJo is a possible name for an orangoutan so at least he has that one down. Appalling ignorance as per usual, maybe he should go back to Turkey and attempt to randomly negotiate deals on behalf of the EU again. He has the tact of Berlusconi without the honesty of not giving a fuck.

Also Pandemona; Sturgeon isn't at PMQs, SNP do have 56 seats and technically a leader there though if that's who you're refering to; they don't exactly look the same though.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 18 2017 18:46 GMT
#5252
I'm not left wing, but Labour has every right to criticise at the moment in order to keep all EU benefits for employees and mothers.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 18 2017 20:13 GMT
#5253
On January 19 2017 00:46 MyTHicaL wrote:
BoJo is a possible name for an orangoutan so at least he has that one down. Appalling ignorance as per usual, maybe he should go back to Turkey and attempt to randomly negotiate deals on behalf of the EU again. He has the tact of Berlusconi without the honesty of not giving a fuck.

Also Pandemona; Sturgeon isn't at PMQs, SNP do have 56 seats and technically a leader there though if that's who you're refering to; they don't exactly look the same though.

General consensus was that his questions were muddled and the SNP did a better job of holding the PM to account on her speech

I went off this quote from the summary of todays PMQs and put 1 and 1 together i don't know xd

http://news.sky.com/story/live-prime-ministers-questions-10733224
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
January 19 2017 08:22 GMT
#5254
HSBC, UBS to shift 1,000 jobs each from UK in Brexit blow to London

Two of Europe's biggest banks warned on Wednesday that they could each move about 1,000 jobs out of London as they prepare for expected disruption caused by Britain's exit from the European Union.

UBS Chairman Axel Weber said that about 1,000 of the Swiss bank's 5,000 employees in London could be affected by Brexit, while HSBC Chief Executive Stuart Gulliver said his bank will relocate staff responsible for generating around a fifth of its UK-based trading revenue to Paris.

Germany's Handelsblatt newspaper also reported that Goldman Sachs is considering halving its London workforce to 3,000 and moving key operations to New York and continental Europe, particularly Frankfurt, where it could move up to 1,000 staff.

A Goldman Sachs spokeswoman in Frankfurt said the bank does not recognize the numbers in the Handelsblatt report and that it has yet to make a decision on the matter.

Leading financial firms warned for months before Britain's June referendum on European Union membership that they would move jobs out of the country if there was a vote to leave but have set out few details since on how many will go or where to.

"We will move in about two years time when Brexit becomes effective," HSBC's Gulliver told Reuters at the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum.

And in another potentially damaging blow to London's status as Europe's main financial center, UBS's Weber told the BBC in Davos that 1,000 staff working in businesses that would be hit by Britain losing its 'passport' to sell financial services in Europe would be affected.

Other banks are expected to announce more concrete plans for how they will adapt to Brexit in the coming months after Prime Minister Theresa May confirmed in a speech on Tuesday that Britain would leave the European single market.

FRANFURT SUBSIDIARY

Goldman staff moving to Frankfurt would include traders and managers responsible for regulation and compliance, financial sources told Handelsblatt. The bank is setting up a new subsidiary in Frankfurt to bring European operations together.

Back-office personnel would move to Warsaw and investment bankers who advise French and Spanish companies would move to those countries, Handelsblatt reported, while trading staff who develop new products would move to New York.

HSBC, Europe's biggest bank, is at an advantage to its major U.S. rivals as it already has a large subsidiary in Paris that holds most of the licenses needed by an investment bank, meaning that Gulliver has been able to set out more detailed plans.

It is expected to move about 1,000 staff involved in trading products, such as European stocks, that are regulated by the EU. HSBC's global banking and markets division, which houses those roles, made a $384 million profit in the UK in 2015, a company filing showed.

In 2016 UBS set up a bank in Frankfurt to consolidate most of its European wealth management operations in an effort to conserve capital and simplify its structure.

Meanwhile, Lloyds Banking Group is considering setting up a subsidiary in Frankfurt, though no final decision has been taken, according to a person familiar with the plans.

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The shift of jobs will be a blow to the City of London, which has been lobbying since the Brexit vote for financial firms in Britain to retain the EU 'passporting rights' that allows them to sell their services across the bloc.

But passporting is unlikely to continue with Britain outside the European single market and companies say they are now likely to press ahead with plans to move staff, even though May said she would try to negotiate some form of market access.

The City's best hope will be for the government to agree a transitional arrangement whereby financial businesses can continue to operate out of Britain across the EU for a number of years after Brexit, in the hope that a favorable access deal is achieved in the interim.

"We would like to see a transitional agreement announced as soon as possible," Mark Boleat, policy chairman at the City of London Corporation, said in a statement after May's speech.

HSBC shares closed 1.8 percent up, against a 0.2 percent fall in the broader European banks index. UBS shares were down 2.1 percent.

(Additional reporting by Anjuli Davies in London and Emma Thomasson in Berlin; Writing by Lawrence White and Rachel Armstrong; Editing by Keith Weir, Alexander Smith and David Goodman)


uk.reuters.com
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9843 Posts
January 19 2017 22:33 GMT
#5255
"If you leave the EU, we're going to move jobs out of the UK"
"They'll never move jobs out of the UK, London is too big and important"
*Bank moves jobs out of UK*
tumbleweeds ensue.
Its all gone very quiet around here.
RIP Meatloaf <3
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 19 2017 22:35 GMT
#5256
Sovereignty or financial center, pick one.

If Brexit were not to be followed by a recession at the least, I'd be very impressed.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 19 2017 22:39 GMT
#5257
Only two banks though and im sure they come back if we become tax haven no lol. Also a bank announced 500 new jobs in UK earlier this week.
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
January 19 2017 23:24 GMT
#5258
On January 20 2017 07:35 LegalLord wrote:
Sovereignty or financial center, pick one.

If Brexit were not to be followed by a recession at the least, I'd be very impressed.


It's not a recession if it's only felt in London.
"Mudkip"
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 19 2017 23:59 GMT
#5259
I only care about £ to euro, and i have been waiting for it hits near 1.14. To my surprise the market actually reacts positively to may's empty talks lol. I am still baffled at how are you supposed to be the 'iron lady' when you have absolutely nothing in hands to bargain with all the neighbors lol.

Finest english attitude is at work here, be a bully when you are not getting anything you want. I just want £ to euro hits lower before my trip visiting my friends in london next month.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 20 2017 00:26 GMT
#5260
On January 20 2017 07:35 LegalLord wrote:
Sovereignty or financial center, pick one.

If Brexit were not to be followed by a recession at the least, I'd be very impressed.


Well, that's why I'm considering moving to the USA. The UK is out of the European Union. Recession will last at least 5 years. So why should I stay? Have your cake and eat it. :D
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