EPTOn June 24 2016 16:56 DickMcFanny wrote:
Merkel has nobody to blame but herself for this.
Merkel has nobody to blame but herself for this.
self reflection and taking responsibility aren't exactly her strong suits.
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
self reflection and taking responsibility aren't exactly her strong suits. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:51 RvB wrote: Hollande mate. Sarkozy hasn't been the French president for a while. Haha my bad i liked Sarkozy  | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:46 Cam Connor wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2Qh8daj.png) Source: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:56 Laurens wrote: So who will be the next PM? Is it actually going to be Boris/Nigel? Nigel has 0% chance he isn't a conservative or an mp. It will be Boris/Gove/may/crabb or a complete unknown | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:56 Laurens wrote: So who will be the next PM? Is it actually going to be Boris/Nigel? Leadership debate will come up very fast in Conservative party. Boris will be bookmakers favorite, but the likes of Michael Gove will throw his name into the hat, but literally is no big name in Conservatives outside of Boris. Farage isn't in conservative party so he can't be considered unless he changes colours but that aint happening. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:57 AngryMag wrote: self reflection and taking responsibility aren't exactly her strong suits. Hope she calls us idiots and our parliament insane for giving this decision to mere plebs. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:45 Pandemona wrote: Well UK fucked  What a shocking time to be alive where plebs get to vote on such huge decisions, shocking As a bystander I can't look away. As tepid as the status quo seems it's hard to imagine how half a nation can jump into the deep end without having taken a good look. I haven't read one cogent piece on how exit negotiations might go or preliminary projections on the post EU world. It's just Yolo hope for the glorious past in the future. Two world wars and all but once the red menace is gone the Europeans can't play nice. Meanwhile Machiavelli Jr. Probably has a shit eating grin right now. :D /facetious | ||
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anatase
France532 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:54 maartendq wrote: On the positive side, this might be the last time that the UK will be able to influence mainland politics. They might, however, have a hard time getting used to being just an island nation no-one really has to listen to anymore. Centuries of influencing mainland power politics must have been addicting. Quite agree with this, I am saddened by the choice of the british people and the internal political play british politicians have pulled out recently. But this is a chance for mainland Europe to strenghten ties and integrate further, in a better fashion. It's a huge opportunity. And if the UK thinks it will be better off outside of the EU, no doubt the EU will be fairing very well without a solo player in a teamgame. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:55 Zaros wrote: Corbyn is now in trouble 1/4 of labour MPs are set to sign a letter asking him to go Labour needs to listen to it's voters, they got smashed tonight.Wrong side of history. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:45 xM(Z wrote: - do they have university level pro-EU courses in UK?. - do those old and/or poor people lack the (mental?)capability to understand the latest debates on this issue?. - Because people that finish higher education tend to be better at understanding and critically questioning information. - Old people have other interests and are more affected by instinct over factual information: 'the past' when 'everything was better' for example. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6322 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:54 maartendq wrote: On the positive side, this might be the last time that the UK will be able to influence mainland politics. They might, however, have a hard time getting used to being just an island nation no-one really has to listen to anymore. Centuries of influencing mainland power politics must have been addicting. For me that is a negative. British liberalism has been positive for the EU. I greatly regret this. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On June 24 2016 17:01 RvB wrote: We lost one of our greatest allies within the EU today.For me that is a negative. British liberalism has been positive for the EU. I greatly regret this. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:56 DickMcFanny wrote: Merkel has nobody to blame but herself for this. She can always blame Cameron for running a referendum. Like people blamed Tsipras. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 24 2016 16:59 anatase wrote: Quite agree with this, I am saddened by the choice of the british people and the internal political play british politicians have pulled out recently. But this is a chance for mainland Europe to strenghten ties and integrate further, in a better fashion. It's a huge opportunity. And if the UK thinks it will be better off outside of the EU, no doubt the EU will be fairing very well without a solo player in a teamgame. Germany probably still the biggest soloplayer in there tbh here goes hoping that changes with this | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On June 24 2016 17:00 SC2Toastie wrote: - Because people that finish higher education tend to be better at understanding and critically questioning information. - Old people have other interests and are more affected by instinct over factual information: 'the past' when 'everything was better' for example. I can't recall there being "safe spaces" in universities 30 years ago.Progress! Fact is the youth are increasingly stuck in a child-like state, not able to think critically or entertain ideas outside of what the left wing politically correct dogma of the day is. Their argument was based on brexiters being "racist", ignoring the fact that Poland doesn't have any black people.The government in fact made it harder for Non-EU immigrants to enter because they were getting so many (overwhelmingly white) EU migrants. | ||
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Linear
60 Posts
On June 24 2016 17:04 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: I can't recall there being "safe spaces" in universities 30 years ago.Progress! Fact is the youth are increasingly stuck in a child-like state, not able to think critically or entertain ideas outside of what the left wing politically correct dogma of the day is. Their argument was based on brexiters being "racist", ignoring the fact that Poland doesn't have any black people.The government in fact made it harder for Non-EU immigrants to enter because they were getting so many (overwhelmingly white) EU migrants. As a young person I don't give a flying fuck about the politics of the matter I only care what makes sound fiscal sense leaving the EU doesn't make any sense it that regard so it's a bad idea. Pretty simple concept to grasp. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On June 24 2016 17:07 Linear wrote: As a young person I don't give a flying fuck about the politics of the matter I only care what makes sound fiscal sense leaving the EU doesn't make any sense it that regard so it's a bad idea. Pretty simple concept to grasp. Exactly. The politics are a non-issue in this referendum, the economy and personal financial well-being is. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
wont happen but one can hope | ||
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