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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#201
On December 12 2013 05:55 Hoender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:49 KwarK wrote:
It's in poor taste but it takes some balls to blag an interpreter job thinking it's an easy paycheck, then get up on stage in front of the world media and actually do it convincingly for the entire event.

Unfortunately, this is the state of our country. Many job post's are either left vacant for years (with a "temporary" stand-in employee taking the post) or unqualified individuals are appointed the job due to Black Economic Empowerment. Sad thing is, it doesn't seem like it's going to change any time soon here :/


It's a pretty big embarrassment.

I wonder what was going through this guy's head to think he was not going to get caught.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44174 Posts
December 11 2013 20:59 GMT
#202
On December 12 2013 05:57 Incognoto wrote:
there's no balls in deceit lol. what a poor sense of balls



RIP Mandela.

If I'd accepted a position as a sign language interpreter without knowing sign language and then was required to translate at Mandela's funeral I'd have not shown up for work that day. The job would have been over either way so why show up. But that guy, he gets up on stage and he does it, even though he doesn't know sign language, even though he's certainly going to lose his job. He gets up there and he pretends to know sign language in front of the world.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 21:01:09
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#203
On December 12 2013 05:57 Incognoto wrote:
there's no balls in deceit lol. what a poor sense of balls



RIP Mandela.

Could you imagine being on a stage in front of thousands upon thousands of people and know that you have no fucking idea what your doing?
You have to be absolutely shameless to be able to get up and actually do that knowing full well your going to get fired.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa382 Posts
December 11 2013 21:02 GMT
#204
On December 12 2013 05:58 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:55 Hoender wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:49 KwarK wrote:
It's in poor taste but it takes some balls to blag an interpreter job thinking it's an easy paycheck, then get up on stage in front of the world media and actually do it convincingly for the entire event.

Unfortunately, this is the state of our country. Many job post's are either left vacant for years (with a "temporary" stand-in employee taking the post) or unqualified individuals are appointed the job due to Black Economic Empowerment. Sad thing is, it doesn't seem like it's going to change any time soon here :/


It's a pretty big embarrassment.

I wonder what was going through this guy's head to think he was not going to get caught.

to be honest, in some cases (not sure about this one thoug) the individuals don't actually realise that they are not qualified. I've seen this first hand in the Engineering field - people accept a somewhat technical post when its clear he doesn't understand one bit of work or subject matter at hand.
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 11 2013 21:13 GMT
#205
Can't believe people are going nuts about Obama's selfie with Cameron and Schmidt.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
December 11 2013 21:16 GMT
#206
On December 12 2013 06:13 Djzapz wrote:
Can't believe people are going nuts about Obama's selfie with Cameron and Schmidt.


Its hilarious. I would have done the same in her shoes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27177 Posts
December 11 2013 22:37 GMT
#207
People are fucking assholes.

Concerts have people filming them through mobiles, the selfy is ubiquitous, obnoxious as it is. I don't mind politicians being chastised for falling below a certain standard, but not when it's the standard society at large has deemed acceptable
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
December 12 2013 01:28 GMT
#208
Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa382 Posts
December 12 2013 01:36 GMT
#209
Taken out of context. It's an old Apartheid song sung by the anti apartheid activist ppl (don't know what they were called). Also the group that posted that on youtube are the worst of the worst of the Afrikaner people (read: redneck almost KKK racists trying to undermine what we've been trying to work to the past 20 years) and makes me ashamed to share the same culture as them.
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 03:23:40
December 12 2013 03:22 GMT
#210
edit: o fuck me, it's been posted
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 12 2013 03:56 GMT
#211
Someone here should do a dramatic reading of the YouTube comments in the video recently posted.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
December 12 2013 06:08 GMT
#212
As for the communist ties the ANC had, I really don't think you had a choice back in the Cold War era. Especially when communism preached for racial equality.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
December 12 2013 09:38 GMT
#213
"The man also did sign interpretation at an event last year that was attended by South African President Jacob Zuma, Druchen said. At that appearance, a deaf person in the audience videotaped the event and gave it to the federation for the deaf, which analyzed the video, prepared a report about it and a submitted a formal complaint to the ANC, Druchen said.

In their complaint, the federation suggested that the man should take the five years of training needed to become a qualified sign language interpreter in South Africa. But the ANC never responded, Druchen said."

Gold, pure gold. This guy had been going around for years probably doing 'interpretations' and in that time he couldn't be arsed to learn more than three signs. A chimpanzee can learn sign language in that time frame.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
December 12 2013 13:07 GMT
#214
On December 12 2013 05:37 furymonkey wrote:
lmao

The sign interpreter at the memorial event was fake, and was gesticulating gibberish to the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nelson-mandela-memorial-bogus-interpreter-made-mockery-of-barack-obamas-tribute-8997486.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/10510473/Fake-interpreter-performs-nonsense-sign-language-throughout-Mandela-memorial.html



HAHAHAHAHA oh my god that dude truly has balls of steel. Stoneface while doing it.
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TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
December 12 2013 13:27 GMT
#215
On December 12 2013 22:07 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:37 furymonkey wrote:
lmao

The sign interpreter at the memorial event was fake, and was gesticulating gibberish to the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nelson-mandela-memorial-bogus-interpreter-made-mockery-of-barack-obamas-tribute-8997486.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/10510473/Fake-interpreter-performs-nonsense-sign-language-throughout-Mandela-memorial.html



HAHAHAHAHA oh my god that dude truly has balls of steel. Stoneface while doing it.


Biggest scam of the century. Cant even imagine what went through his head, when he got offered the job to do the memorial job for Mandela. He must have gone underground by now lol, cant imagine why they would let him get away with it.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 13:53:48
December 12 2013 13:51 GMT
#216
On December 12 2013 22:27 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 22:07 TOCHMY wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:37 furymonkey wrote:
lmao

The sign interpreter at the memorial event was fake, and was gesticulating gibberish to the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nelson-mandela-memorial-bogus-interpreter-made-mockery-of-barack-obamas-tribute-8997486.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/10510473/Fake-interpreter-performs-nonsense-sign-language-throughout-Mandela-memorial.html



HAHAHAHAHA oh my god that dude truly has balls of steel. Stoneface while doing it.


Biggest scam of the century. Cant even imagine what went through his head, when he got offered the job to do the memorial job for Mandela. He must have gone underground by now lol, cant imagine why they would let him get away with it.

It's just shows how corrupted the ANC has become, and it's a sad symbol to have at the memorial of Mandela.

edit: lol so apparently he is blaming that on schizophrenia and says that he was seeing angels during the ceremony... sure that's going to reassure every chief of state that went close to him!
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
December 12 2013 13:57 GMT
#217
On December 12 2013 22:27 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 22:07 TOCHMY wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:37 furymonkey wrote:
lmao

The sign interpreter at the memorial event was fake, and was gesticulating gibberish to the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nelson-mandela-memorial-bogus-interpreter-made-mockery-of-barack-obamas-tribute-8997486.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/10510473/Fake-interpreter-performs-nonsense-sign-language-throughout-Mandela-memorial.html



HAHAHAHAHA oh my god that dude truly has balls of steel. Stoneface while doing it.


Biggest scam of the century. Cant even imagine what went through his head, when he got offered the job to do the memorial job for Mandela. He must have gone underground by now lol, cant imagine why they would let him get away with it.

So many heads of state standing next to a guy nobody knows. What the hell is the CIA even doing, i doubt they would have to dig very deep to find out a guy standing next to their president isn't what he says he is.
Watched the event live, seemed like people were trolling Mandela. Every 10min the crowed had to be told to calm down, people singing/dancing with vuvuzelas at a funeral being broadcasted around the world, people drunk, Obama talking about himself more than Mandela, taking selfies, no security check for people coming into a stadium were high-ranking foreign dignitaries are in open view, South African president repeatedly booed in front of the whole world. Best thing that happened was the handshake between Raul Castro and Obama, but meh, seeing pictures of Obama next to the translator with the translated caption "I have a drone" underneath, hehe.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 12 2013 15:50 GMT
#218
Does anyone think the fake sign language guy bares a striking resemblance to the cab driver that the BBC mistook for a computer expert and interview live on the air?



Maybe it's the same guy that just travels around the world getting himself into all kinds of hijinks
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
December 13 2013 11:07 GMT
#219
On December 06 2013 09:53 Zealos wrote:
This probably isn't a good time to ask, but I'm seeing lots of comments about it. Was this guy in any way a terrorist? I love him, and believe he is one the greatest people to live, but was he in some way involved in terrorist activity?

Sorry if this is too disrespectful, I'll remove it if that is the case.


why would you think your comment is disrespectful? you say you love him and he is one of the greatest people to live… don't get much better than that

to say that he was a terrorist- or not is a bit tricky. back in the day the situation for blacks in sa was teeerrible- way worse than for example in the us.
the white regime would enforce its ideals/laws/principles with violence…
so what kinda happened is that the police would just beat up- or straight up kill the back people who tried to bring about changes (even peaceful demonstrants).
and ofcourse, since the whites would even kill the ones triying to change, the reaction of the blacks got more and more raidcal as well.
perhaps the worst single event was the massacre at sharperwill where 69 unarmed protestors were killed by the police.
as a result the "Umkhonto we Sizwe" (spear of the nation) was founded, of which mr. Mandela was the leader of that organization.
the idea was basically that against that kind of behavior only violence would be an adequate answer.
so what happend was, that as a leader of the umkhonto we sizwe, mr. Mandela did prepare plans for attacks on the authorities (his handwriting was identified).
however, one might say you can only turn the other cheek so many times…
so you decide- his people were mistreated and even massacered. he wanted to do something about it, going as far as (maybe?) neccessary. does that make him a terrorist?
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa382 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 11:25:57
December 13 2013 11:24 GMT
#220
On December 13 2013 20:07 j1nzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 09:53 Zealos wrote:
This probably isn't a good time to ask, but I'm seeing lots of comments about it. Was this guy in any way a terrorist? I love him, and believe he is one the greatest people to live, but was he in some way involved in terrorist activity?

Sorry if this is too disrespectful, I'll remove it if that is the case.


why would you think your comment is disrespectful? you say you love him and he is one of the greatest people to live… don't get much better than that

to say that he was a terrorist- or not is a bit tricky. back in the day the situation for blacks in sa was teeerrible- way worse than for example in the us.
the white regime would enforce its ideals/laws/principles with violence…
so what kinda happened is that the police would just beat up- or straight up kill the back people who tried to bring about changes (even peaceful demonstrants).
and ofcourse, since the whites would even kill the ones triying to change, the reaction of the blacks got more and more raidcal as well.
perhaps the worst single event was the massacre at sharperwill where 69 unarmed protestors were killed by the police.
as a result the "Umkhonto we Sizwe" (spear of the nation) was founded, of which mr. Mandela was the leader of that organization.
the idea was basically that against that kind of behavior only violence would be an adequate answer.
so what happend was, that as a leader of the umkhonto we sizwe, mr. Mandela did prepare plans for attacks on the authorities (his handwriting was identified).
however, one might say you can only turn the other cheek so many times…
so you decide- his people were mistreated and even massacered. he wanted to do something about it, going as far as (maybe?) neccessary. does that make him a terrorist?

Although I agree with you, you're exaggerating a bit there. I do think that the situation for black people were worse than in America, but not way worse. AFAIK Apartheid was not violently enforced, or not initially atleast. Only when there were revolts starting did it become violent. For example the Sharpeville incident that you mentioned, was quite similar to the situation as that of the mine revolts 2 years ago:
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http://live.wsj.com/video/police-open-fire-on-south-african-miners/CF6B2543-883F-494F-8713-448BA5734983.html


The police were called in at Sharpeville to contain the protests. Things got out of hand and apparently things escalated when one policeman lost his nerve and started firing.

That all being said Apartheid was obviously a horrible thing and I'm glad that it ended. Mandela was (in the eyes of the people and government at the time) a terrorist, but also a freedom fighter in the eyes of the "non-white" people.
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
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