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On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded.
If doing this offends people, then offending people is just the thing that needs to be done.
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On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded.
I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue.
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On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded.
I don't think they care about the people that were offended. Actually, I think they said just that when asked.
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On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue.
Human rights and politics are not mutually exclusive. Any time you advocate changing laws, you are engaging in politics.
User was banned for this post. (PBU)
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On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue.
Gay marriage is, by definition, a political issue because marriage, by definition, is a political institution. It is a political issue, and there are valid points on both sides of the debate.
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On June 26 2013 06:23 Gen.Rolly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue. Gay marriage is, by definition, a political issue because marriage, by definition, is a political institution. It is a political issue, and their are valid points on both side of the debate.
There are zero valid points on the side of people arguing that homosexuals should not be allowed to marry. Literally zero valid points.
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On June 26 2013 06:13 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:11 Potling wrote:
Can someone explain to me why homosexuality is «one of the most important issues of our time and age»? Thanks. Not homosexuality, inequality
I always loved this respones. I tell people this all the time. Homosexuality is not an issue, Inequality is.
It's to bad we can't all just be humanist and logical.
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On June 26 2013 06:23 Gen.Rolly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue. Gay marriage is, by definition, a political issue because marriage, by definition, is a political institution. It is a political issue, and their are valid points on both side of the debate. These kind of points are exactly the reason for neoghaleon's statement. FYI
Edit: haha, nice one, pholon.
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Netherlands6142 Posts
On June 26 2013 06:23 Gen.Rolly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue. Gay marriage is, by definition, a political issue because marriage, by definition, is a political institution. It is a political issue, and there are valid points on both side of the debate.
I think human rights would dictate politics, not the other way around. But tbh don't really care how you phrase it. TL speaks out for equality, whether it's political or no.
And tbh, apart from "thinking about gay people kills my boner" there really aren't any valid points. Tough luck.
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On June 26 2013 06:18 AtheistDarkAge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue. Human rights and politics are not mutually exclusive. Any time you advocate changing laws, you are engaging in politics. User was banned for this post.
I agree, so I guess you'll have to ban me too.
User was temp banned for this post.
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United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 26 2013 06:37 Potling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:18 AtheistDarkAge wrote:On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue. Human rights and politics are not mutually exclusive. Any time you advocate changing laws, you are engaging in politics. User was banned for this post. I agree, so I guess you'll have to ban me too.
I think it was more that the account was mysteriously made today. If you get what I'm saying.
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On June 26 2013 06:37 Potling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:18 AtheistDarkAge wrote:On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue. Human rights and politics are not mutually exclusive. Any time you advocate changing laws, you are engaging in politics. User was banned for this post. I agree, so I guess you'll have to ban me too.
I wouldn't say that outright if I were you!
But the ban is probably not solely due to that post of his.
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On June 26 2013 06:24 sva wrote:
It's to bad we can't all just be humanist and logical.
You are prejudiced and offensive against non-humanists. I'll have to start my own victim group and raise funds.
By wanting all to be humanist and logical, you are an enemy of diversity and freedom. Humanist Privilege must go!
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On June 26 2013 06:26 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:23 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Gen.Rolly wrote:On June 26 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 26 2013 06:01 Gen.Rolly wrote:
Why are TL admins taking a stance on a such a hot political issue? Have any of them spoken out about why they are taking such a stance? I am personally turned off by the juxtaposition of politics and something totally unrelated to it. Can we just focus on the games please? There are plenty of other forums to voice your approval or disapproval for any given political/moral topic. Yes, TL admins have spoken about it plenty. It's pretty clear you haven't read the thread. If you don't want to talk about it, don't click on the thread. Easy right? ^^ Can you quote them please? I do not have time to read through 70 pages of thread, sorry. I clicked on the thread to voice my opinion, not to engage in a lengthy discussion about the relationship between politics and esports. Not going to trawl the thread for you, but along the lines of "we're anti-discrimination and for equality, so we're happy to do this, and if you're not happy then tough titties". Paraphrasing a little. Alright thanks. I still feel their position is unnecessary and there is no reason to use their position as TL admins to promote a particular political/moral ideology. If they wanted to offend people, they succeeded. I like how you think basic human rights like the ability to mutually love someone of your choosing without being discriminated against is a political issue. Gay marriage is, by definition, a political issue because marriage, by definition, is a political institution. It is a political issue, and there are valid points on both side of the debate. I think human rights would dictate politics, not the other way around. But tbh don't really care how you phrase it. TL speaks out for equality, whether it's political or no. And tbh, apart from "thinking about gay people kills my boner" there really aren't any valid points. Tough luck.
Are you trying to marginalize boners and the american dream?
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On June 26 2013 04:30 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 04:25 Plansix wrote:On June 26 2013 04:21 Klondikebar wrote:On June 26 2013 04:18 Plansix wrote:On June 26 2013 04:17 Klondikebar wrote:On June 26 2013 04:13 Plansix wrote:On June 26 2013 04:09 Klondikebar wrote:On June 26 2013 03:58 Neemi wrote:On June 26 2013 03:24 Klondikebar wrote:On June 26 2013 03:18 Neemi wrote:
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I don't think it's about tolerating intolerance, I think it's about "It seemed inevitable that this thread would end up with a torrent of white cis straight middle class males decrying the concept of privilege and whining that it hurts their feelings."
I mostly just get tired of the fact that "equality" mostly seems to mean "equal opportunities regardless of sex, race and sexuality". And don't get me wrong, I fully support equal job opportunities, marriage for all who truly love their partner, and everything else in that regard, because these are all things that a "minority" lesbian girl could do just as well as a white straight male (just to name the opposites). I also truly like the new banner. But there are many more ways in which people differ, and they don't get nearly the same amount of attention while people who belong to a different kind of minority can feel just as bad for the same reasons. Maybe even worse, as few people acknowledge their situation. Maybe you could help me out by listing the minorities that you think aren't getting enough attention? Particularly minorities that people refuse to give attention to? I wouldn't go as far as saying people "refuse" to give attention to anyone, but I didn't go into specifics because I feel they are really based on my own experiences (not being disadvantages by any, just noticing them happening) and because I didn't want to derail the thread. But if you want me to list a few: - People literally saying that they couldn't understand how one could ever truly love a fat person - All the kids around the world who are being bullied for having a strange hobby, not having a common hobby or having different tastes - Introverted people (usually dismissed as being boring or uninteresting) - Sick people of any kind (physically disabled people are getting a lot of attention in most cases, but mentally disabled people... they rarely do) - Ugly people (usually covertly, and while being subjective, people who are deemed attractive by many people are more highly rated on pretty much everything other attribute compared to people who are deemed less attractive) - Intelligence - Religion Obviously all these different people are still allowed to marry, but all these people can be made fun of or feel excluded for these very reasons. And because most of them aren't superficial, it's hard for many people to know what it's like to be really introverted, so less people know "what it's like". As far as I know most "white cis straight middle class males" are simply guys tired of being told to respect anything and everything all the time. I'm basing this mostly on my surroundings, so I could be terribly wrong.
So...these straight white guys are tired of being told they can't be assholes? Why am I supposed to feel sorry for these particular straight white guys? I think Plansix below you summarized this way better than I did. It's not about being told "don't be an asshole" and no one is asking you to feel sorry for them, but if we're not supposed to dismiss a group of people for a certain quality because a few members of that group behave in a particular way, then just don't do it at all. None of those people you listed are denied rights. And I don't understand your second response. Could you please clarify? Are you saying you're not supposed to dismiss a group because of the way a few members of that group act but it would just be better if those few members didn't do that? Could you give an example there? So because they were not denied rights, you get to call them privileged by default? If they have terminal cancer, but you didn't know because they don't wear a sign, can you still call them privileged just because you are gay? There's a reason I have stopped responding to your posts. You refuse to acknowledge the definition of privilege in the context of social justice and you have arbitrarily decided it is a personal insult. Even Scarlett tried to correct this dumbass misconception but apparently you people just aren't having it. Go home. Why do you insist on labeling people you don't know or entire social groups? Isn't that exactly what your are fighting against? How you can say that I am privileged just because I date a woman and I happen to be white? Why are you allowed to assume things about me, but I am not allowed to assume things about you? Do you see the flaw with the argument and why some people object to it? No. Because you're not understanding the definition of privilege and you have obstinately refused to do so for the majority of this thread's run. All of those questions would easily be answered if you'd take your head out of your ass and actually admit that you are misunderstanding privilege. Am I privileged because I just happen to be white and straight? Yes Show nested quote +If so, why do you gain the ability to assume that about me with only those two pieces of information? Because those are the only two relevant pieces of information needed...duh. Show nested quote +And could I make any assumption about someone based solely their race and sexual orientation that would be acceptable? Umm...yeah, you can assume they are privileged. Like I just did above. How are you not following this? In case you haven't noticed, I'm done treating you like you actually have any interest in understanding this. You've decided you don't like this word so you're gonna be butthurt. It's cool. Keep throwing this tantrum.
I don't think Plansix realizes that being privileged doesn't make you a bad person, and is in fact completely out of his control. A geography teacher I had in sixth grade once said "There is nothing wrong with being privileged, as long as you understand that you are privileged. If you're privileged and you do not realize it then you are a brat."
I female coworker of mine has said that she hates going to the auto mechanic because they refuse to be frank with her about what's wrong with the car. Whenever she goes to the mechanic she brings a guy with her because the mechanics will be frank with the guy, even if he knows even less about cars than she does.
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On June 26 2013 06:41 Potling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:24 sva wrote:
It's to bad we can't all just be humanist and logical. You are prejudiced and offensive against non-humanists. I'll have to start my own victim group and raise funds. By wanting all to be humanist and logical, you are an enemy of diversity and freedom. Humanist Privilege must go!
lmao, just because I wish something doesn't mean I would ever force it upon others.
I don't really care what other people do as long as they aren't harming others.
I personally dispise most religiouns and think that they are a huge part of what's wrong with the world, but I would never prosecute someone for having faith.
There really is no good argument against gay's without quoteting some terribly contradictory book that was written by a bunch of foolish men at different times.
It's ok if people don't like TL for supporting equality, then they should just stop coming to this site.
Stop using Google, stop using amazon, don't drink budweiser, etc etc etc...
I don't go to chick fil a and bitch at them for their beliefs, I just choose not to eat there because of their beliefs.
Eventually this will be a much smaller issue, our children will look back and laugh at how stupid all of us from this time were.
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On June 24 2013 22:32 SgtCoDFish wrote:
Whatever the logo is for, I think we can all agree the TL Horse looks fabulous
THIS!!! <3
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If you guys don't think teamliquid should make a stance on this issue then stop trying to make a stance on this issue on teamliquid.
Teamliquid (the admins and people in charge of everything teamliquid) has always had this style of doing whatever the hell they want and in fact their commandments basically say, "THIS IS OUR HOUSE!!!!!!!"
If you don't want your websites getting involved in anything political or human right's awareness or anything that you don't agree with find some other site. Don't sit here and complain that people in charge of their website choose what they do with their website. Your input on what the owners do doesn't matter, if they want to do something they can.
If they want to ban everyone that says, "Swag. Yolo." or even "I like killing elephants for ivory!" then they can.
You have several options so choose one and stick with it. Stop bitching about what someone else did with their non-sentient, non-living property.
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I think the TL horse ate too many Skittles...
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I don't think this has very much to do with politics, ideology, or human rights. Humanity maybe...
Maybe one can look at it this way:
TL shows support for people who suffer (because they are discriminated against if they are lucky up to being physically hurt if they are not lucky).
So why do some people oppose supporting people who suffer? How can you possibly oppose something like that and in some cases even be offended?
The answer is easy: they think they deserve to suffer. It is their own fault, they don't need support they need a cure. They are a threat and an insult to the own way of life.
Even those morons understand that this answer is ugly, so they create arguments like "Dude, politics/ideology/religion should have no place on an esports site" and ironically try to lift themselves on the moral high ground (it's almost funny if you think about it)
This analogy might sound a little weird but imagine if there was a pink ribbon next to the TL Logo in support of people who suffer from breast cancer. (no I don't compare an illness to homosexuality I compare two groups of people who suffer for different reasons) Do you think anyone in the world would have the idea to post "Dude, this ribbon shoves a political oppinion in my face, remove it"
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