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Iyerbeth

England2410 Posts

June 28 2013 00:54 GMT

#1981

Wow, this thread managed to reach 100 pages. Logo is still awesome.

ASoo

2867 Posts

June 28 2013 02:43 GMT

#1982

On June 28 2013 09:21 ASoo wrote:
Cross-posted from the gay thread, in case anybody's interested in a Facebook banner sized version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/azurasstar/liquid_pride_fb_zps845626b0.png

Because page 100.

Ghostcom

Denmark4783 Posts

June 28 2013 02:46 GMT

#1983

^just in case anyone missed it 3 posts ago?

EDIT: It is a fabulous banner though.

rawb

United States252 Posts

June 28 2013 02:53 GMT

#1984

I'm using a version from /r/sc on my phone. Looks pretty awesome :D

DeepElemBlues

United States5080 Posts

June 28 2013 04:48 GMT

#1985

The only thing I don't like about is the logo is I think the right side should have been in rainbow as well, it looks unbalanced to me (imba?).

To the people who said that TL just did this because of it becoming 'more corporate' or something, cynicism has its uses but come on now that is way too cynical. Just because yes being pro-gay (or equality or whatever) is the hot and easy way to go to 'look good' these days in popular culture doesn't mean that TL staff were thinking about that or that it held any weight in their minds when they decided to do this. Sometimes people do the right thing just because they feel it is the right thing and other reasons don't have much weight in their decision-making process.

I will say I disagree entirely with the idea that it is okay to be intolerant and hateful towards those you perceive as intolerant, that is taking steps down the road to being an authoritarian jerk in other areas where right and wrong is not so clear-cut. And the proper way to deal with intolerance is to try to persuade people they are wrong, not blithely assume your victory is assured so you have a free pass to treat them like Nazis. No one (I hope) is advocating putting homosexuals in camps and killing them, or rioting against them in the streets, or committing violence against them in any way. Germans went insane and back to sanity in the space of 20 years, the same people who weren't Nazis then were Nazis then were totally against Nazism. Everyone except the worst of the worst deserves a chance, and help, to redeem themselves from their distasteful opinions and those opinions' consequences.

Berating them in the way that has happened in this thread is more likely to put their backs up and make them more strongly hold their bigoted opinions than they did before. Which is more likely to hurt individual homosexuals they may meet in the future than not. So think before you rage about how people against gay marriage "should die" or how we shouldn't care if they're offended and how being hateful jerks towards hateful jerks is okay. Some quotes (some altered to make a point, some not) to consider:

Martin Luther King, Jr., said this:

But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.

He did not say this:

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at a table of shaming, the hills echoing with the righteous fury of the sons of former slaves and the pain of the sons of former slave owners.

He did say this:

I have a dream that one day the state of Alabama, whose governor's lips are presently dripping with the words of interposition and nullification, will be transformed into a situation where little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls and walk together as sisters and brothers.

Notice what he did not say: that the little white girls and white boys needed to be punished for previously not wanting to join hands with little black boys and little black girls.

Let us consider the words of Abraham Lincoln:

With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

The failure to act with malice towards none and charity towards all was part of the reason the black man in America was condemned to live a life of fear and oppression for 100 years after the end of the War. Acting with malice towards homophobes, real or imagined, does not do one single thing to end the denial of equality towards homosexuals. It is a self-serving, cheap way to make yourself look good in front of others, in other words a tribal gesture of solidarity, the denigration of The Other. It is a way to, 'with permission' so to speak, indulge in some of our baser passions, especially the urge to dominate and denigrate others in a way that would otherwise be unacceptable for polite, civil society. Don't just be right; act right. What is at stake is too important to be any other way.