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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
March 11 2013 03:35 GMT
#41
a lot of the effects I'm hearing sound like stimulants or just placebo stuff.
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UrsusRex
Profile Joined July 2012
United States85 Posts
March 11 2013 03:45 GMT
#42
Do the pills make your dick bigger and help you lose weight too?
"It is not sufficient that I succeed - all others must fail" - Genghis Khan
Anne
Profile Joined March 2013
Vietnam1 Post
March 11 2013 06:28 GMT
#43
Many of the most popular "smart drugs" (Piracetam, Sulbutiamine, Ginkgo Biloba, etc.) have been around for decades or even millenia but are still known only in medical circles or among esoteric practicioners of herbal medicine. Why is this? If these compounds have proven cognitive benefits, why are they not ubiquitous? How come every grade-school child gets fluoride for the development of their teeth (despite fluoride's being a known neurotoxin) but not, say, Piracetam for the development of their brains? Why does the nightly news slant stories to appeal more to a fear-of-change than the promise of a richer cognitive future?
There is no clear answer to this question. Many of the smart drugs mentioned have decades of medical research and widespread use behind them, as well as very minor, manageable, or nonexistent side effects, but are still used primarily as a crutch for people already experiencing cognitive decline, rather than as a booster-rocket for people with healthy brains. Unfortunately, there is a large bias in Western medicine in favor of prescription once something bad has already begun, rather than up-front prevention. There's also the very wise principle of "leave well enough alone" - in this case, extended to mean, don't add unnecessary or unnatural chemical compounds to the human body in place of a normal diet. [Smart Drug Smarts would argue that the average human diet has strayed so far from what is physiologically "normal" that leaving well enough alone is already a failed proposition.]
Wrath 2.1
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany880 Posts
March 11 2013 06:49 GMT
#44
deus ex inc :D
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Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
March 11 2013 13:56 GMT
#45
On March 11 2013 12:21 Kenpachi wrote:
im against it unless it has no side affects and can be distributed to the entire population


Name me ONE drug that passes those criteria
XythOs
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
Germany520 Posts
March 11 2013 15:56 GMT
#46
Coffee?
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
March 11 2013 16:26 GMT
#47
On March 12 2013 00:56 XythOs wrote:
Coffee?


Heart palpatations.
lonecricket
Profile Joined June 2011
24 Posts
March 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#48
B complex is a good one. Now what was that smart drug?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 11 2013 20:03 GMT
#49
On March 11 2013 22:56 Equity213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:21 Kenpachi wrote:
im against it unless it has no side affects and can be distributed to the entire population


Name me ONE drug that passes those criteria

haha so drugs are used to treat some form of illness. Why give it away to everyone when they clearly dont need it
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HunterX11
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
March 11 2013 20:16 GMT
#50
On March 11 2013 07:19 rezoacken wrote:
"Your life fixed with a pill/potion in 5 seconds."

Selling dreams since -2000BC.

Pseudo-science is just another form of mythical bullshit.

If you take drugs, don't try to justify yourself.


I'm pretty sure pharmacology isn't pseudoscience. Okay, well modern practices in marketing drugs are pretty close, but it's still fairly well-established that drugs exist that affect the body in fairly predictable ways.
Try using both Irradiate and Defensive Matrix on an Overlord. It looks pretty neat.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 20:19:56
March 11 2013 20:16 GMT
#51
I think it's mostly just stimulants that are used for this. So many 'herbal mixtures' have guarana in it which is just caffeine and as far as I know doesn't do anything beneficial long term.

Personally I try to use rosemary as a herb more frequently, because it supposedly enhances memory and I had been having memory problems, and I sometimes have lemon balm tea because that one also has positive effects. I doubt it's actually noticeable, but at least it's just tea or seasoning, so it can't really hurt.

It wouldn't surprise me if there actually do existed supplements which would remove hidden minor deficiencies for the brain and make you function better, but I'm not enough of an expert to know any of this.

And of course there are drugs that make you function better short-term, like many stimulants.

I doubt if there are wonder drugs that offer substantial long-term benefits up and beyond what you would achieve at optimal health & nutrition etc. already.

On March 11 2013 15:28 Anne wrote:
Many of the most popular "smart drugs" (Piracetam, Sulbutiamine, Ginkgo Biloba, etc.) have been around for decades or even millenia but are still known only in medical circles or among esoteric practicioners of herbal medicine. Why is this? If these compounds have proven cognitive benefits, why are they not ubiquitous? How come every grade-school child gets fluoride for the development of their teeth (despite fluoride's being a known neurotoxin) but not, say, Piracetam for the development of their brains? Why does the nightly news slant stories to appeal more to a fear-of-change than the promise of a richer cognitive future?

Maybe because "a meta-analysis in 2012 reported zero effect sizes for the impact of Ginkgo biloba on memory, attention and problem-solving", according to wiki.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 20:28:21
March 11 2013 20:27 GMT
#52
A friend of mine is taking ritalin (he is studying to be a judge), he didn't had any major side effects.

He's addicted to it, not physically, but addicted in the sense that he simply can't study anymore unless he's taking the pill, it's that good he says.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 11 2013 21:19 GMT
#53
On March 12 2013 05:27 DDie wrote:
A friend of mine is taking ritalin (he is studying to be a judge), he didn't had any major side effects.

He's addicted to it, not physically, but addicted in the sense that he simply can't study anymore unless he's taking the pill, it's that good he says.

Thank god I will be old or dead before this brave new world becomes a standard. Kids drugging themselves to get small edge on other kids fueled by globalized capitalism in job-market competition.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
March 11 2013 21:32 GMT
#54
On March 11 2013 12:45 UrsusRex wrote:
Do the pills make your dick bigger and help you lose weight too?

TBH most actually do help you lose weight. Your dick gets smaller though.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
March 11 2013 21:32 GMT
#55
On March 12 2013 06:19 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 05:27 DDie wrote:
A friend of mine is taking ritalin (he is studying to be a judge), he didn't had any major side effects.

He's addicted to it, not physically, but addicted in the sense that he simply can't study anymore unless he's taking the pill, it's that good he says.

Thank god I will be old or dead before this brave new world becomes a standard. Kids drugging themselves to get small edge on other kids fueled by globalized capitalism in job-market competition.



It's common with med students, it made the news, there is a movie on the subject (limitless).


It's already pretty standard if you ask me.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 11 2013 21:38 GMT
#56
On March 12 2013 06:32 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 06:19 mcc wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:27 DDie wrote:
A friend of mine is taking ritalin (he is studying to be a judge), he didn't had any major side effects.

He's addicted to it, not physically, but addicted in the sense that he simply can't study anymore unless he's taking the pill, it's that good he says.

Thank god I will be old or dead before this brave new world becomes a standard. Kids drugging themselves to get small edge on other kids fueled by globalized capitalism in job-market competition.



It's common with med students, it made the news, there is a movie on the subject (limitless).


It's already pretty standard if you ask me.

Med students starting their career by abusing prescription drugs?

Honestly though, sometimes I feel that universities having these big tests that require you to study so much material is pretty difficult for students and that it's almost okay to try and manage these things that reward an unnaturally high level of concentration (for a day or two to make deadlines) by using drugs in a responsible manner just during these moments.

Like, what is coffee use if not this in so many cases?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
March 11 2013 22:10 GMT
#57
On March 10 2013 15:32 dudeman001 wrote:
Does alpha brain actually induce lucid dreaming like it advertises?


You can become a lucid dreamer within 3-4 weeks of practice. It's not that hard, you just have to put in minimal effort.
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
March 11 2013 22:24 GMT
#58
On March 12 2013 06:38 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 06:32 DDie wrote:
On March 12 2013 06:19 mcc wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:27 DDie wrote:
A friend of mine is taking ritalin (he is studying to be a judge), he didn't had any major side effects.

He's addicted to it, not physically, but addicted in the sense that he simply can't study anymore unless he's taking the pill, it's that good he says.

Thank god I will be old or dead before this brave new world becomes a standard. Kids drugging themselves to get small edge on other kids fueled by globalized capitalism in job-market competition.



It's common with med students, it made the news, there is a movie on the subject (limitless).


It's already pretty standard if you ask me.

Med students starting their career by abusing prescription drugs?

Honestly though, sometimes I feel that universities having these big tests that require you to study so much material is pretty difficult for students and that it's almost okay to try and manage these things that reward an unnaturally high level of concentration (for a day or two to make deadlines) by using drugs in a responsible manner just during these moments.

Like, what is coffee use if not this in so many cases?



At least here in Brazil, it's ridiculously easy to get prescriptions (you can get then for R$40-50, which is about $20), if you want to take the ''legit'' way, you can just go to doctor and say your going to use it anyway but would rather have some medical monitoring, most doctors will give it to you.


I'm seriously considering taking some of these drugs.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
der Koekje
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands23 Posts
March 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#59
In my cardgame tournaments, I used to drop Ritalin and Concerta(basically a slow-release Ritalin) to keep my head in one place, shut out distractions and become hyperconcentrated. It improved my performance by a decent margin, only because distractions, even if you're not actively noticing them, really put a damper on your cognitive abilities. But Ritalin is nothing new. I've looked this stuff up in the past, but I haven't found anything that really makes me say "Wow. I need to try this."

... I was secretly hoping this thread could convince me otherwise.
"I probably won't go down in history. But I will go down on your sister."
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 22:37:57
March 11 2013 22:37 GMT
#60
On March 12 2013 07:10 Aphasie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 15:32 dudeman001 wrote:
Does alpha brain actually induce lucid dreaming like it advertises?


You can become a lucid dreamer within 3-4 weeks of practice. It's not that hard, you just have to put in minimal effort.

There's also certain drugs that can give you different dreams. I acquired a batch of something known as Dream Herb once and I had occasional success with it. I didn't even know what would be a proper dosage and at what time of the day I should take it, or whether I should take it as a supplement in lower doses for a few weeks, and so on. It wasn't that expensive, so I thought that I could gradually increase the dosage and take it daily, but I didn't trust it would be safe to use this long-term given the lack of research available, furthermore, the taste is utterly vile, so it's only usable in capsules, which adds another level of complexity.

The one time where it did had the promised effects was really interesting. I had very vivid dreams the entire night. I was actually really happy with it for that time, I mean, wouldn't it be wonderful if the 8 hours a day we spend sleeping were more interesting? ^^
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
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