EPTIntroversion Awareness - Page 9
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On December 21 2012 15:38 Barrin wrote: Using both your explicit preference and the term introversion can give the recipient a wider category of experience to draw from in order to understand what you mean. If you want to be alone, be alone. The recipient of your preference needs only know that it is your preference to be alone. No further justification is needed, especially external appeals to the masses. What exactly is 'externally validating people's preferences' and what do you mean by that? It means looking outside yourself for someone/thing to tell you that your preference is "OK". No such thing is needed. All preferences are OK in the sense that they can't be argued with and need no further justification: they are your preferences because they are. | ||
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On December 21 2012 15:44 Barrin wrote: I'm only showing why its okay to be introverted if that's what you happen to be (I'm not deciding it for anyone). This highlights my issue. Introversion is simply the broad label applied to a general set of preferences. When you reduce "its okay to be introverted" down it simply looks like this: "it's ok to have your own preferences". Invoking the introversion concept here adds a redundant layer to the equation. | ||
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On December 21 2012 15:49 Barrin wrote: You haven't been taking the official Myers Briggs test. The official test has to be issued by someone who's certified. You have to take it like 3-4 times over the course of a few weeks/months. Only after you have done that will the test be 75-90% accurate. You really should read more about this stuff dude. What you're experiencing is completely normal... people have all sorts of personality traits inside them that appear at different times depending on their circumstances. Your problem with introversion is only a problem with your understanding of it - and your fear that others will also misunderstand it. The point of the test is to figure out which one type you use most often. You are putting all sorts of meanings on these things than what they actually mean. How much research have you done on this stuff? For the fourth time please stop telling me what I am doing. You do you, I'll do me. To make this obvious, tell me exactly what it is that I am experiencing. I have zero fear about people misunderstanding "introversion". People will do what they do. Take it or leave it. If people want to fall into the identity trap, I can't stop them. I place zero meaning on the test results I received. Read my last remark: I found it a fun game | ||
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MadNeSs
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And on a side note, I'm INTJ, and has scored that for years, and I'm not really surprised that so many starcraft players have scored the same (or atleast INTP), or atleast in the 'rationals' category. It's weird INTJ, gaming and strategy really seem to go hand in hand, doesnt it? | ||
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On December 21 2012 15:52 Barrin wrote: Um no, because I am specifically targeting introversion. Surely you've gotten the memo. I thought I was doing me? You said that you are "showing why it's okay to be introverted". I am saying that you cannot "be" introverted. Introversion is a label that is applied to you from the outside. You cannot be it, you can only have it attached to you. The difference is profound. It transforms "it's ok to be introverted" into "it's ok to have preferences which a bunch of other people someone thinks you might be similar to also have". When you frame it like this, the need for external validation becomes clear. My solution is absurdly simple: WE'RE ALL OK! | ||
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CtrLZerG
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I've done a lot of research on this stuff in the past, mostly in order to understand my friends better, and improve the way I communicate with people I'm not entirely comfortable with... For example, I converse very well with intuitive people (who are abstract, very creative and hypothetical, often discuss a less tangible 'feeling' they get about things...) I have a lot of trouble conversing with sensory people (who like concrete, tested ideas based off facts and tangible sources) I'd say that learning about these different personality types has helped me understand people better... there are many people I feel a lot more comfortable with, who I found were brilliant thinkers in their own way, despite being more concrete and sensory based... You just have to know how to draw people out! It's really been quite humbling, to be honest! After all, people are social creatures, regardless of whether someone is an introvert or an extrovert, sensory or intuitive, feeling or thinking.... I found some of the best learning experiences come from communication between people who have different perspectives... so this is a really useful tool for learning how to communicate better, in my humble opinion..! | ||
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On December 21 2012 16:13 Barrin wrote: How am I supposed to tell you what you are experiencing? You tell me. Here are your words: "what you are experiencing is normal". What is it that I am experiencing that is normal? Indeed, people will do what they do. And we have labels for these things... the point of these labels is indeed to apply meaning for the purpose of ease of reference based on bits of context from memory. We humans have found giving names to things to be very useful. You can live in a world with meaningless words if you wish - I'm not stopping you. I've already told you that I have no problem with labels as an anchor for concepts and I even asked you not to bring it up again. I am growing tired of repeating myself so I bid you adieu. Thanks for the dialogue. | ||
p4NDemik
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Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll abstain from saying anything more and judge all of you. | ||
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MadNeSs
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On December 21 2012 16:20 p4NDemik wrote: INTJ here. Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll abstain from saying anything more and judge all of you. That's so INTJ'ish of you to say  . | ||
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