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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
December 21 2012 07:29 GMT
#181
I would just like to point out that the MBTI is an absolute atrocity from a scientific POV - no falsifiability, horrible test-retest validity and contrary to the central theory behind it (that people fall in certain 2 groups on each of the 4 axis and thus one would expect peaks at both ends of the axis) it shows a normal distribution (bell-curve) on all the axis. The only positive thing about it is that it is "okay" at differing between introvert vs extrovert as defined by Myers-Briggs, but at the same time it fails to distinguish between neurotics and introverts, fusing them into one category, distorting the border between introvert/extrovert.

But sure, if it helps you in any way to assign yourself to a label - go straight ahead.
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
December 21 2012 07:30 GMT
#182
Being an INTJ is not so bad, except having no friends or social life.
The phone part is especially funny, because it's so true. I hate that thing
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
December 21 2012 07:31 GMT
#183
On December 21 2012 16:27 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 16:19 Mstring wrote:
On December 21 2012 16:13 Barrin wrote:
On December 21 2012 15:50 Mstring wrote:
On December 21 2012 15:49 Barrin wrote:
On December 21 2012 15:38 Mstring wrote:
I did this test many years ago and got a strongly favoured INTP, exactly as I expected at the time. A lot has changed since then. I'm not surprised that this time I got an on the fence INFP. 58% I and the N and F not too far off the middle-ground either. Things can change, people can change. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years time I get ranked as extrovert. What a fun game

You haven't been taking the official Myers Briggs test.

The official test has to be issued by someone who's certified. You have to take it like 3-4 times over the course of a few weeks/months. Only after you have done that will the test be 75-90% accurate.

You really should read more about this stuff dude. What you're experiencing is completely normal... people have all sorts of personality traits inside them that appear at different times depending on their circumstances. Your problem with introversion is only a problem with your understanding of it - and your fear that others will also misunderstand it.

The point of the test is to figure out which one type you use most often.

You are putting all sorts of meanings on these things than what they actually mean. How much research have you done on this stuff?


For the fourth time please stop telling me what I am doing. You do you, I'll do me. To make this obvious, tell me exactly what it is that I am experiencing.

I have zero fear about people misunderstanding this. People will do what they do. Take it or leave it.

I place zero meaning on the test results I received. Read my last remark: I found it a fun game


How am I supposed to tell you what you are experiencing?

You tell me. Here are your words: "what you are experiencing is normal". What is it that I am experiencing that is normal?

Taking a test - especially an unofficial one - a few times over a long period of time and getting somewhat different results is normal.


It is normal to do so for roughly 50% of those who takes the official test within 9 months.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 08:16:21
December 21 2012 07:36 GMT
#184
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 21 2012 07:43 GMT
#185
That was a shitloads of quotes where nothing being said is a bliss.

Damn those guys woulda hated me IRL, I never ever shut up when I have something to talk about (ES/NFJ if that helps).

Though half of those introvert myths apply to me, I've never been see as not being extraverted,..

And in this thread there's a lot of texts which I skipped over.. gonna be reading it eventually, seemed interesting
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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
December 21 2012 07:48 GMT
#186
WTH Barrin, I wouldn't write an article that long if someone paid me.
I don't believe in labels. They are made up ways to build mental barriers between people. Labels are all in your head. We are all people with different tastes and preferences. No labels.
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
December 21 2012 07:55 GMT
#187
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Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
December 21 2012 08:03 GMT
#188
On December 21 2012 16:20 p4NDemik wrote:
INTJ here.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll abstain from saying anything more and judge all of you.

INFJ, son, get dem emotions in there!
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
December 21 2012 08:10 GMT
#189
I got INFJ on one and INTJ on the other. Wich one should i put on my CV?
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 08:19:19
December 21 2012 08:17 GMT
#190
On December 21 2012 13:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
I got ISTP: "Engineer". Values freedom of action and following interests and impulses. Independent, concise in speech, master of tools. 5.4% of total population.

Given that I have an engineering degree I find it quite fitting. =]

Could someone explain in laymans terms the difference between sensing and intuiting? Thanks!


Sensing to Intuition is like Judging to Perceiving.

Rather than making decisions on what you notice with your 5 senses, you make decisions on what you don't see.

Intuition is like sensing someone is lying and not believing them even though your senses tell otherwise, or believing something is going to happen and going with it, rather than acting on your 5 senses.

Sensing people tend to like physical stuff (like sports). Intuitive people tend to like non-physical stuff like chess/poker.
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
December 21 2012 08:18 GMT
#191
Sick write-up dude, I consider myself an introvert person too.

You should add "map-maker" to introvert-friendly jobs :p
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tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
December 21 2012 08:42 GMT
#192
i consider myself an introvert but the quiz told me i'm an extrovert -_-'
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 09:34:45
December 21 2012 08:48 GMT
#193
is there a fine line between social anxiety and introversion?
not sure if im extrovert or heavily influenced introvert lol
Extravert(1%) iNtuitive(38%) iNtuitive Thinking(25%) Perceiving(11)%

Introverted (I) 52.78% Extroverted (E) 47.22%
Sensing (S) 54.05% Intuitive (N) 45.95%
Thinking (T) 54.55% Feeling (F) 45.45%
Judging (J) 51.11% Perceiving (P) 48.89%


i dunno i think its possible im an ambivert haha
Or im a shy extrovert -_-
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 21 2012 09:04 GMT
#194
Another ENTJ here, though my preference to E was literally 1%, which makes sense since I got Ambivert on the powerofintroverts test. It's really hard to answer questionaires like these, which makes sense if I'm an ambivert I guess, because I usually feel every answer depends on a situation. For example, it fucking sucks to sit alone at home on a friday/saturday night if there's a party my friends are having. On the other hand, I love solitary walks and used to walk for about an hour alone every non-party night a while back. I hate big crowds but love being with friends, etc.
Sugarfluff
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden132 Posts
December 21 2012 10:19 GMT
#195
Seems to be a lot of hate of labels here. Which is a pity, labels are awesome! Categorization is awesome! They are key to understanding, and ease of understanding. It's about how you use them. Let's take sexual orientation. We have some pretty clear categories: straight, gay, etc. Having these pre-defined categories can definitely make it easier for, let's say, gays to be comfortable with being gay. Furthermore, these categories do not create boundaries. Nothing is to stop someone from saying "Hey you know what, I fit in both these categories! I'm both straight and gay." (As it happens we have a category for that, but the point remains valid: you don't need to belong to just one category.) Yes you can use labels to create a personality for yourself, but I find that rather odd. I have never met such a person, and even if I did I wouldn't care. It's their problem. Quite frankly you people seem more upset about a group of people trying to be cool than actually having a problem with this science (however imprecise it may currently be). This science, these labels, have helped people. And if the cost is you getting annoyed at a few parties over some girl going "Oh my god, I am soooo introvert" then whatever.

It's been awhile since I took this test (INTP at the time), and it helped me. Not so much in accepting who I am, I knew I was introverted (or leaning towards it on the spectrum, since apparently using the short phrase is starting to upset technical people) before I had a word for it. But the accompanying literature (much of it FREE, I have never actually paid for any of it) helped me a great deal in socializing. And this doesn't mean that I am now less introvert, it simply means I am dealing with it better in those specific situations.

This OP isn't glorifying being introvert. It's merely completely focused on it, which for the purpose of discussion I don't really agree with, since introversion is often measured by how extroverted you are rather than the opposite. But it's a good OP and a fun subject.
If something is funny, it is worth doing.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 10:25:05
December 21 2012 10:22 GMT
#196
I've taken Jung Typology tests several times before in the past, and I'm fairly sure at some point or another I switched from an INTP to an INTJ. Not sure what that means!

I was actually really glad when I first started reading up on this stuff in college. Among my trait preferences, introversion over extroversion is by far my strongest delineation (test I just took had it as +100% but I don't know that it's quite THAT strong!). When I first saw that list of myths and trait descriptions long ago, I was pretty amazed at how accurate they were.

To the person who was decrying the notion of 'labels', I feel I have to mention that labels are only really a negative influence when they are used that way. When people prejudge you as something and assume a lot about you for instance. Or if you do the same to yourself and limit your potential as a result.

But the idea of classifying yourself, and identifying with a larger subset of society can be positive as well. Knowing you aren't alone in the way you think and that it's neither bad nor weird to be an introvert (or any other 'label' for that matter). There is definitely value in that.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
December 21 2012 10:25 GMT
#197
I KNEW it about the recharge time. I always need half an hour to zone, snooze or whatever after a schoolday or day at work.

I also thought something was wrong with me that I'd be utterly exhausted after being around a lot of people for a while when most of the people I hang out with weren't. The more you know
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 10:58:27
December 21 2012 10:51 GMT
#198
Posts like these kind of make me feel normal once in a while. I mean, I'm introverted, I know that, but they make me feel that it's ok and normal to be that way. I often find myself feeling awkward in social situations and I'm not much of a talker. I don't really like small talk and often just get to the point, especially in my working environment.

I often find myself having nothing worthwhile to say in social conversations involving many people and sit there idly. But when I find something I can talk about, I really talk a lot and are very passionate about the things that interest me. Large crowds and noiseful environments often exhaust me very quickly and I usually tend to shut down. I usually leave then, but if I have to stay I even fall into a state that most people would probably say is depressed.

I get very hard to approach at that point and really just want to be alone and brush people off.

I think I have a lot of friends, but only very few close ones that I value very much. And even though I live in another town miles away for years now, I still keep contact to those people that are dear to me. I haven't really made many acquaintances over the years in the new town, also because I don't want them to take up the time I reserve for my old friends.

I like to be alone a lot though, but sometimes I really get lonely as well.

I also have a lot of things I'm interested in and try my hand at, but I never really stick to anything long term. I get about average pretty easily at things I try, but never master anything, because a new interest is already up ahead. For example I play the guitar, play the drums, try to draw, video editing, different kinds of sports... same with video games, I never really stick for a long time to the same one. I played SC2 until I got to Diamond (there still wasn't a Masters league) and after that I lost interest and quit.

Reading up on this makes me understand myself a little better, or maybe it's just an excuse, I don't know. Sometimes I feel I have to change, but I don't know if this is really possible without putting a substantial amount of work into it... and honestly I don't really know if I want to.

In my job I worked in an open plan office for a long time, but due to the noise there was a point where I had to ask my superior to switch me to a smaller office. I didn't really want to come off as weak or sensitive, that's why I endured quite a long time in there, but at some point I was pretty close to depression and was aggravated very easily if someone would talk too loudly...

Did the first two tests and the results are pretty close:
ISTJ
Introvert(78%) Sensing(1%) Thinking(12%) Judging(11%)

ISTJ
Introverted (I) 78.79% Extroverted (E) 21.21%
Sensing (S) 50% Intuitive (N) 50%
Thinking (T) 60.98% Feeling (F) 39.02%
Judging (J) 51.35% Perceiving (P) 48.65%
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9563 Posts
December 21 2012 11:05 GMT
#199
This is now my favourite thread on TL. I'm an INTJ introvert and I like what I just read about myself.
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Alex1Sun
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
494 Posts
December 21 2012 12:00 GMT
#200
Awesome thread! Thank you so much! I'm ISTP-type most of the time, and I quite enjoy it
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