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ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 09:16:16
September 19 2012 09:15 GMT
#1561
The collateral damage... the cost WAS TOO HIGH GUYS T.T

WHY, GOD?!?! IEM IS DEAD BECAUSE OF ALL THIS WANTON HATE!

*cough*

Well, hopefully there's some kind of happy end to all this inane bullshit so that we can play our goddamn Starcraft in peace.
A time to live.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 19 2012 09:15 GMT
#1562
I thought I'd share a nice story in this thread since it seems deficit of the sort.

Here's a picture that's being spread around on Facebook by some of my Japanese friends:

[image loading]


It was originally posted by a Japanese man in Beijing. Along with the picture came a caption written in Japanese. It said:

There was a courageous girl today at the protest who created her own poster. In the midst of the protest, the uncultured middle-aged men jeered at her and ripped her poster to shreds, and the girl wept. I wish the Chinese and Japanese media would pick up on stories like this. This is what was written on the poster:

We've experienced everything from war to earthquakes to floods.
We are no longer a fascist government (tl note: the Japanese translation says fascist, but maybe the poster says communist? I don't know).
Our territory is not something we should protect by bashing, breaking, or burning things.
This is not our Cultural Revolution.
The entire world was watching the Beijing Olympics.
I beg you, please stop harming others.
Please remember that our country is overflowing with love.


One of my friends who shared the photo left a little message, saying:

Those who are saying "politically unstable -> those people are out of their mind" are clearly mistaken.


Doesn't change the situation one bit, but I thought it was an enlightening exchange between a young Chinese girl and some Japanese people who were touched by her.
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x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
September 19 2012 09:16 GMT
#1563
On September 19 2012 18:12 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 18:01 x2fst wrote:
what's with the porn star thing, is sora aoi a huge celebrity or something?


I haven't met a single Chinese person (personal experience) who hasn't been intimate with her, yanawwwmeean?
lol. they need to get that japanese 12yo with huge boobs from a few yrs ago on the case, unfortunately she's probably 18 by now so can't see it having the same effect
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 09:58:37
September 19 2012 09:38 GMT
#1564
On September 19 2012 18:15 Souma wrote:
I thought I'd share a nice story in this thread since it seems deficit of the sort.

Here's a picture that's being spread around on Facebook by some of my Japanese friends:

[image loading]


It was originally posted by a Japanese man in Beijing. Along with the picture came a caption written in Japanese. It said:

Show nested quote +
There was a courageous girl today at the protest who created her own poster. In the midst of the protest, the uncultured middle-aged men jeered at her and ripped her poster to shreds, and the girl wept. I wish the Chinese and Japanese media would pick up on stories like this. This is what was written on the poster:

We've experienced everything from war to earthquakes to floods.
We are no longer a fascist government (tl note: the Japanese translation says fascist, but maybe the poster says communist? I don't know).
Our territory is not something we should protect by bashing, breaking, or burning things.
This is not our Cultural Revolution.
The entire world was watching the Beijing Olympics.
I beg you, please stop harming others.
Please remember that our country is overflowing with love.


One of my friends who shared the photo left a little message, saying:

Show nested quote +
Those who are saying "politically unstable -> those people are out of their mind" are clearly mistaken.


Doesn't change the situation one bit, but I thought it was an enlightening exchange between a young Chinese girl and some Japanese people who were touched by her.


Poster actually says:

War. Earthquake. Floods.
We've made it through all that.
This isn't facist. Our land
was never (won / defended / earned) by hitting / breaking / burning
This isn't the cultural revolution
Our Olympics was seen by the whole world.
Please stop hurting.
I remember. Our country is filled with love.

(note on the "facist" connotation: China basically has the same stereotype through WWII to cold war with allied countries that Facism is inherently evil with out understanding what it actually meant. The stereotype links Nazi Germany's actions and atrocities with Facism more so than National Socialism or the individuals in control of Germany at the time. So essentially what it's saying is that "we aren't evil")
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 09:46:09
September 19 2012 09:41 GMT
#1565
On September 19 2012 18:12 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 18:01 x2fst wrote:
what's with the porn star thing, is sora aoi a huge celebrity or something?


I haven't met a single Chinese person (personal experience) who hasn't been intimate with her, yanawwwmeean?


horribly misleading, maybe 2% of the population actually know about her by name (like a minority of the population from 14-20). The majority of China's population don't keep track of porn stars. Mainstream culture is still extremely skeptical of the legitimacy of pornography / prostitution as an occupation, younger populations may view pornography much more often yes, but even then they don't see it as a legitimate or integral part of life, there's a certain sense of shame and reservedness that goes with it.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
September 19 2012 09:45 GMT
#1566
On September 19 2012 18:41 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 18:12 Xpace wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:01 x2fst wrote:
what's with the porn star thing, is sora aoi a huge celebrity or something?


I haven't met a single Chinese person (personal experience) who hasn't been intimate with her, yanawwwmeean?


horribly misleading, maybe 2% of the population actually know about her by name (like a minority of the population from 14-20). The majority of China's population don't keep track of porn stars.

CrAyZeD
Profile Joined January 2012
United States36 Posts
September 19 2012 09:57 GMT
#1567
Time for Murica to step in again -.-
Nice To Meet You!<3
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
September 19 2012 09:57 GMT
#1568
Chinese government has already decided to ban anti-Japan protests. (As of morning of 19th local time, maybe like 10 hours ago or so) There might be some still going on, but major ones like those in front of Japanese Embassy/Consulate are totally banned/cancelled. Things are gonna only slow down. Major political power transition in China is coming within a month, so they need stability. Japan didn't benefit from the hostile situation, either. I hope this whole event caught more attention of the world than Kate Middleton nude photos.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 19 2012 09:59 GMT
#1569
On September 19 2012 18:57 Orek wrote:
Chinese government has already decided to ban anti-Japan protests. (As of morning of 19th local time, maybe like 10 hours ago or so) There might be some still going on, but major ones like those in front of Japanese Embassy/Consulate are totally banned/cancelled. Things are gonna only slow down. Major political power transition in China is coming within a month, so they need stability. Japan didn't benefit from the hostile situation, either. I hope this whole event caught more attention of the world than Kate Middleton nude photos.


They've decided to ban "all illegal protests" which means any protest what so ever will be watched by armed police any ways.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 10:33:45
September 19 2012 10:32 GMT
#1570
On September 19 2012 18:41 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 18:12 Xpace wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:01 x2fst wrote:
what's with the porn star thing, is sora aoi a huge celebrity or something?


I haven't met a single Chinese person (personal experience) who hasn't been intimate with her, yanawwwmeean?


horribly misleading, maybe 2% of the population actually know about her by name (like a minority of the population from 14-20). The majority of China's population don't keep track of porn stars. Mainstream culture is still extremely skeptical of the legitimacy of pornography / prostitution as an occupation, younger populations may view pornography much more often yes, but even then they don't see it as a legitimate or integral part of life, there's a certain sense of shame and reservedness that goes with it.

It was a cheap jab at the cultural integrity of the Japanese people. Really weak example if you ask me considering Japan has made celebrities out of cannibals and whatnot.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
September 19 2012 10:38 GMT
#1571
I walked by the Japanese consulate in Shanghai today. The entire street was barricaded off with police guarding it, no protesters. I know yesterday there were protesters though.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 19 2012 10:44 GMT
#1572
On September 19 2012 18:59 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 18:57 Orek wrote:
Chinese government has already decided to ban anti-Japan protests. (As of morning of 19th local time, maybe like 10 hours ago or so) There might be some still going on, but major ones like those in front of Japanese Embassy/Consulate are totally banned/cancelled. Things are gonna only slow down. Major political power transition in China is coming within a month, so they need stability. Japan didn't benefit from the hostile situation, either. I hope this whole event caught more attention of the world than Kate Middleton nude photos.


They've decided to ban "all illegal protests" which means any protest what so ever will be watched by armed police any ways.

well protesting about the whole islands isnt the stupid part, breaking things and rioting is. hopefully it stops
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 19 2012 10:47 GMT
#1573
On September 19 2012 18:15 ShatterZer0 wrote:
The collateral damage... the cost WAS TOO HIGH GUYS T.T

WHY, GOD?!?! IEM IS DEAD BECAUSE OF ALL THIS WANTON HATE!

*cough*

Well, hopefully there's some kind of happy end to all this inane bullshit so that we can play our goddamn Starcraft in peace.


Don't you mean all this won ton hate? :p
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
September 19 2012 10:54 GMT
#1574
On September 19 2012 19:32 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 18:41 Caihead wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:12 Xpace wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:01 x2fst wrote:
what's with the porn star thing, is sora aoi a huge celebrity or something?


I haven't met a single Chinese person (personal experience) who hasn't been intimate with her, yanawwwmeean?


horribly misleading, maybe 2% of the population actually know about her by name (like a minority of the population from 14-20). The majority of China's population don't keep track of porn stars. Mainstream culture is still extremely skeptical of the legitimacy of pornography / prostitution as an occupation, younger populations may view pornography much more often yes, but even then they don't see it as a legitimate or integral part of life, there's a certain sense of shame and reservedness that goes with it.

It was a cheap jab at the cultural integrity of the Japanese people. Really weak example if you ask me considering Japan has made celebrities out of cannibals and whatnot.


LOL You two really read into things! It's like you selectively or purposely missed the words 'personal experience', in brackets. Ask any cbc/abc person (18+, just to be safe) who Maria Ozawa or Sora Aoi is, and they'll probably tell you their exact measurements*.

There are much, much easier ways to take a jab at Japanese culture, as ShadeR has said.

* They probably won't, but I'm afraid that'll be taken out of context as well so I'm writing this note to inform you that it's an exaggeration.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 19 2012 10:57 GMT
#1575
That Korean website looked like garbage. Is it considered a respectable new source?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 19 2012 10:59 GMT
#1576
On September 19 2012 19:57 Jerubaal wrote:
That Korean website looked like garbage. Is it considered a respectable new source?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369083&currentpage=78#1551
Like I said the OP isn't updating and alot of tripe.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 19 2012 11:03 GMT
#1577
On September 19 2012 19:54 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 19:32 ShadeR wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:41 Caihead wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:12 Xpace wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:01 x2fst wrote:
what's with the porn star thing, is sora aoi a huge celebrity or something?


I haven't met a single Chinese person (personal experience) who hasn't been intimate with her, yanawwwmeean?


horribly misleading, maybe 2% of the population actually know about her by name (like a minority of the population from 14-20). The majority of China's population don't keep track of porn stars. Mainstream culture is still extremely skeptical of the legitimacy of pornography / prostitution as an occupation, younger populations may view pornography much more often yes, but even then they don't see it as a legitimate or integral part of life, there's a certain sense of shame and reservedness that goes with it.

It was a cheap jab at the cultural integrity of the Japanese people. Really weak example if you ask me considering Japan has made celebrities out of cannibals and whatnot.


LOL You two really read into things! It's like you selectively or purposely missed the words 'personal experience', in brackets. Ask any cbc/abc person (18+, just to be safe) who Maria Ozawa or Sora Aoi is, and they'll probably tell you their exact measurements*.

There are much, much easier ways to take a jab at Japanese culture, as ShadeR has said.

* They probably won't, but I'm afraid that'll be taken out of context as well so I'm writing this note to inform you that it's an exaggeration.


>_> I'm in Canada and I know dozens of cbc in college
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 19 2012 11:13 GMT
#1578
On September 19 2012 18:41 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 18:12 Xpace wrote:
On September 19 2012 18:01 x2fst wrote:
what's with the porn star thing, is sora aoi a huge celebrity or something?


I haven't met a single Chinese person (personal experience) who hasn't been intimate with her, yanawwwmeean?


horribly misleading, maybe 2% of the population actually know about her by name (like a minority of the population from 14-20). The majority of China's population don't keep track of porn stars. Mainstream culture is still extremely skeptical of the legitimacy of pornography / prostitution as an occupation, younger populations may view pornography much more often yes, but even then they don't see it as a legitimate or integral part of life, there's a certain sense of shame and reservedness that goes with it.

I don't know about the 2%, but I can guarantee you, every single male classmate of mine at SJTU(one of the most prestigious university in China) know about her. So I guess, people with higher education knows about Sora Aoi.

Also, shes something like 27-28 years old, but still she has nothing to do nor can impact anything on this matter.

On topic, the trend of protesting against Japan has died down a bit. I just had a chat with a Shanghainese taxi driver today, he told me protesting is pointless, and some just take this as a chance to loot goods from shops/malls.

There is a restaurant at my area has but on a sign that say " Japanese and dogs are not allowed", I heard that there are alot of places that put in signs like this. But if I learnt anything from the 2005 Chinese protest against Japan, this will die down as the power transfer from Hu Jin Tao to Xi Jin Ping draws near.
Terran
Shardz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States349 Posts
September 19 2012 11:23 GMT
#1579
I can't believe the chinese are this stupid and irrational =/. I'm chinese and these actions are just a disgrace to the country in my opinion. Of course, I have not read up too much on the situation, but this can't be justified.
Oh Hi
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
September 19 2012 11:24 GMT
#1580
Maybe it has already been reported but I think an update is needed with the news that the protestors also attacked the American ambassador. Seems this hate for the Japanese include their allies as well..

Source.
http://www.asahi.com/international/update/0919/TKY201209190349.html
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