EPTWikileaks reveals global Surveillance system - Page 15
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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Niflheim
United States313 Posts
On August 11 2012 21:17 Warri wrote: How many years have you gone to school? Can you honestly tell me that not a single time have you faked being ill and went somewhere else with your friends? Ooops they caught that on camera, sucks to be you. Have you ever went to a swimming pool/golf course at night and jumped over the fence? Thats on camera! Have you ever disobeyed a stop sign on a very open intersection because you saw that there is noone coming? Thats on camera (theyve probably got your license plate or can see your face through the windshield anyway). Have you ever let your dog shit on a street and had no bag to clean it up so you ignored it and went on? Thats on camera too. Youve got nothing to hide? Youre so dead wrong. How many times have you driven by a cop going 1-2 miles over the limit (and probably more) and they don't pull you over ? It is the same principle... you are being seen doing something illegal... they just don't care.. they have more important things to worry about.. I'm sure everyone will say oh it only takes one time, but personally I have a bit more positive of an outlook I guess... if you constantly concern yourself with what COULD go wrong or be abused then you just live in constant fear and that is not how I want to live Those emails posted earlier about trapwire through stratfor, if accurate, show the system is in use, but I see no abuse of the system in those mails and as I have said before.. I think our job as the public is to police the abuses of the government and not limit their access to information It is a bit troubling that this was setup in complete secrecy, but I guess my complacency stems from the fact that I'm not surprised at all that the cameras are recording me and it is being compiled... and I still maintain that stratfor simply does contracting for those companies and I've seen nothing that proves that stratfor is using trapwire for these private corporations... even the Coca Cola email about PETA refers to FBI profiles and not trapwire to relay information | ||
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jeremycafe
United States354 Posts
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hummingbird23
Norway359 Posts
Picking my metaphorical jaw off the floor, I guess McDonalds and American Idol are the 21st century equivalent of bread and circuses. Enjoy your incipent idiocracy, just don't ask how things got to that state. <facepalm> | ||
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totii
United States25 Posts
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reincremate
China2210 Posts
They know. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 11 2012 22:06 jeremycafe wrote: How is this "Holy shit big news"??? If you want to live under a rock and complete silence, stay out of public. This is nothing new or surprising. /yawn watch V for Vendetta if you dont want to read 1984 | ||
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Niflheim
United States313 Posts
On August 11 2012 22:42 hummingbird23 wrote: Looking at the nation tags of the posters in this thread, I am utterly flabbergasted that US citizens especially seem completely oblivious to the implications of this, some even going as far as to say that they don't care if they're watched. The uses of such a database are vast. Blackmail is only the very tip of the iceberg. It's not as simple as "if I do as everyone else does, I'm safe and this database cannot hurt me". I cannot comprehend the disconnect between knowing that US legislators are corporate yes-men, and not caring that such a project is being undertaken. Picking my metaphorical jaw off the floor, I guess McDonalds and American Idol are the 21st century equivalent of bread and circuses. Enjoy your incipent idiocracy, just don't ask how things got to that state. <facepalm> I'd hardly say most people are oblivious to the implications... I doubt anyone here would disagree that this system could be abused and end badly I find it just as sad that so many people are fear mongering acting as if the only way a system like this ends is in a police state in which we are all utterly controlled Oh well .. it is pointless arguing it anymore.. everyone has their own idea of this system and that won't change... if you really dislike it then get out there and do something instead of sitting back complaining and insulting those who don't share your viewpoint Personally, I will wait and see how this develops because I see no problem with this system being used properly | ||
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reincremate
China2210 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:13 kongoline wrote: watch V for Vendetta if you dont want to read 1984 No thanks, history lessons were boring enough in high school. I don't care about stuff that happened in 1984. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:16 reincremate wrote: No thanks, history lessons were boring enough in high school. I don't care about stuff that happened in 1984. Well, I guess you pretty much sum up the stereotype of every lazy ignorant idiot who voices their opinion but does zero (note by zero, I mean fuck all) of research into any possibilities that might come from this nor do you care that situations similar have happened in fascist governments. It's one thing to disagree (and some have pointed out that this is a great tool to stop crime etc and have great scientific application) but to disagree because you're ignorant (and frankly from your comment, an idiot) to your surroundings should just not happen. | ||
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helvete
Sweden276 Posts
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CptCutter
United Kingdom370 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:27 NeMeSiS3 wrote: Well, I guess you pretty much sum up the stereotype of every lazy ignorant idiot who voices their opinion but does zero (note by zero, I mean fuck all) of research into any possibilities that might come from this nor do you care that situations similar have happened in fascist governments. It's one thing to disagree (and some have pointed out that this is a great tool to stop crime etc and have great scientific application) but to disagree because you're ignorant (and frankly from your comment, an idiot) to your surroundings should just not happen. *woosh | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:34 CptCutter wrote: when is the world going to get round to shooting the wikileaks people? they are like the tabloid version of the cyber world. scum who do shit thats completely pointless and mess with things that should not be messed with. Yeah, and let's shoot some vegetarians while we at it! What do you even mean? | ||
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PassionsC
United States42 Posts
Surveillance will affect..... -.000000000000000009% of you. what do you think is gonna happen? the police are gonna knock down your door cuz you're gay or lesbian or because you got some fucking old books and paintings hidden in a secret room. or that your smoking mary jane and have a crush on mary sue and the goverment knows. or that your looking at free porn and jerking off. only people that should be scared are those actually doing evil horrible shit.fuck up | ||
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Intact
Sweden634 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:16 reincremate wrote: No thanks, history lessons were boring enough in high school. I don't care about stuff that happened in 1984. This has to be sarcasm right? Can you realy be this ignorant and close-minded? | ||
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reincremate
China2210 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:27 NeMeSiS3 wrote: Well, I guess you pretty much sum up the stereotype of every lazy ignorant idiot who voices their opinion but does zero (note by zero, I mean fuck all) of research into any possibilities that might come from this nor do you care that situations similar have happened in fascist governments. It's one thing to disagree (and some have pointed out that this is a great tool to stop crime etc and have great scientific application) but to disagree because you're ignorant (and frankly from your comment, an idiot) to your surroundings should just not happen. I lol'ed. Dude, I've read 1984 and V for Vendetta (the movie was just silly). As great as literature is, it's not sufficient for gaining even a superficial understanding of why things are the way they are. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:51 reincremate wrote: I lol'ed. Dude, I've read 1984 and V for Vendetta (the movie was just silly). As great as literature is, it's not sufficient for gaining even a superficial understanding of why things are the way they are. "No thanks, history lessons were boring enough in high school. I don't care about stuff that happened in 1984." You made the clear assertion you never watched it, and then you went on to state how you just simply don't care. This is the last post I'll respond to you with, frankly it's depressing. I never once stated either V or 1984 are sufficient for gaining anything, I simply stated that disagreeing because you prefer to be ignorant because things "bore you" is not "sufficient" so how about you sit this one out champ. also, "I lol'ed. ", -.- you can do better than that. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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reincremate
China2210 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:57 NeMeSiS3 wrote: "No thanks, history lessons were boring enough in high school. I don't care about stuff that happened in 1984." You made the clear assertion you never watched it, and then you went on to state how you just simply don't care. This is the last post I'll respond to you with, frankly it's depressing. I never once stated either V or 1984 are sufficient for gaining anything, I simply stated that disagreeing because you prefer to be ignorant because things "bore you" is not "sufficient" so how about you sit this one out champ. I don't think you were paying attention in school when they taught you what the term tongue-in-cheek means. | ||
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