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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here. The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301 | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:19 ParasitJonte wrote: I was just about to ask this question so re-quoting so more people find it. And also posing a follow-up question: Will PBS do a full-time cover-type show or did you just mean that they will post news updates every hour or something? For most news outlets this will be a marathon, I can't imagine PBS doing anything different. There is no escaping it today. | ||
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Beamer
United States242 Posts
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:19 ParasitJonte wrote: I was just about to ask this question so re-quoting so more people find it. And also posing a follow-up question: Will PBS do a full-time cover-type show or did you just mean that they will post news updates every hour or something? The site has a live blog so there will be updates going on at the same time, judging by my TV schedule, that they will be doing live coverage on TV which should also be streamed online from 8pm ET to midnight. | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
I recently saw a video where someone interviewed random ppl on the street about some "Romney Facts" on what he wants to do, but the catch was that it actually wasnt what he wanted to do, it was what Obama actually already did, I remember 1 of them was the enlengthening of the Patriot Act, I have no link and I cant find it anymore ;< (if someone can, plx link it ;D) | ||
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Orek
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:24 beamer159 wrote: I went to vote today, and I was disappointed to see that Gary Johnson wasn't even on the ballot of 5 presidential candidates. This will kind of hurt his voting presence here in Michigan. Kind of surprises me he didn't get on the ballot in Michigan, but after some googling turns out he was not allowed to by a judge Article.http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/224916/2/Libertarian-presidential-candidate-not-on-Michigan-ballot Michigan state law prevents it as he apparently ran as a Republican in the Michigan primary. Not what I would call the most ideal source. Will keep looking. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:29 Orek wrote: CNN is talking about 3 hour line in Florida. That is insanely long just to cast a ballot. America should be able to do a better job than that. Long line is preventing some people from voting in such a swing state. I don't understand how that happens when election date is pre-set since like 100 years ago. Some states are so much better in running voting stations? **Florida should be able to. Each state is responsible for that individually, while lines seem generally longer today I am taking it as a good indication of turn out this year. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:29 Orek wrote: CNN is talking about 3 hour line in Florida. That is insanely long just to cast a ballot. America should be able to do a better job than that. Long line is preventing some people from voting in such a swing state. I don't understand how that happens when election date is pre-set since like 100 years ago. Some states are so much better in running voting stations? You can vote absentee ballot. You can do early voting. Or you can vote on election day, which is a 13 hour window at least in my state. And employers are mandated by law to give their employees time to vote. The system is fine, what you are seeing is the consequences of procrastination. | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:32 jdseemoreglass wrote: You can vote absentee ballot. You can do early voting. Or you can vote on election day, which is a 13 hour window at least in my state. And employers are mandated by law to give their employees time to vote. The system is fine, what you are seeing is the consequences of procrastination. Ding Ding...and laziness to not drive a few extra miles to a smaller ballot station | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:51 paralleluniverse wrote: Everyone wants to cut the deficit eventually. It make sense that some people think that massively reducing the deficit quickly is bad, that we should do it slowly, and that not all cuts are good, which is what you're basically saying. But the logic leading that person to believe that massively cutting the deficit in the short term is bad for the economy, also implies that increasing the deficit in the short term is good for the economy. Therefore, the hypocritical Republican position I'm talking about is believing: 1) Hitting the fiscal cliff is bad because it massively reduces the deficit through spending and tax cuts while the economy is still in a recession. 2) A large increase to the deficit by increasing spending in a recession will stimulate the economy. Simultaneously holding both beliefs makes no sense to me. I can't speak for all Republicans but most aren't anti-stimulus so much anti-Obama's stimulus. The ARRA was the Democrat's legislation and Republican's didn't like its composition and so they opposed it. Since then the message has devolved a bit from criticism over a specific stimulus to criticism of stimulus. But I think that's more of a dumbing down of the rhetoric than a real change in policy. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:17 jdseemoreglass wrote: The explosion on TL would probably be more entertaining. You'd hear vote fraud and conspiracy claims for months. But I don't think we are that lucky.  While both MSNBC and TL would be quite entertaining... /r/politics would EASILY top them all! Haha  | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:29 ThomasjServo wrote: Kind of surprises me he didn't get on the ballot in Michigan, but after some googling turns out he was not allowed to by a judge Article.http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/224916/2/Libertarian-presidential-candidate-not-on-Michigan-ballot Michigan state law prevents it as he apparently ran as a Republican in the Michigan primary. Not what I would call the most ideal source. Will keep looking. Was going to argue that he was on the ballot in my state, but that makes sense. On November 07 2012 02:31 ParasitJonte wrote: Read the poll results on the first page. General comment: doesn't surprise me that teamliquid leans so Heavy towards Obama. I Think it's sad that USA doesn't have a "real" third party option that is economically conservative but socially progressive. I wholeheartedly concur.  Meh. I tried. I'm one of the 5%. | ||
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:38 Mohdoo wrote: Today is gonna be so tense, ugh. I'm gonna be worrying about the election all day T_T No point in doing this. Whatever happens, happens. It is out of your control (besides your vote of course). | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:56 paralleluniverse wrote: When there are multiple polls saying the same thing, the margin of error becomes a lot smaller than any individual poll. Even RCP has Obama winning all battleground states except NC and FL, that's 305 EV for Obama. And I believe this is the most likely outcome. The next most likely outcome is probably as above but with Obama winning FL instead. Nate Silver puts the probability of Obama winning FL as exactly 50% currently. It would be a nice surprise but I don't think people realize how conservative Florida is (not even counting Scott as governor). The Democrats haven't held majority in the state House or Senate since Clinton and on this ballot it shows with three very conservative amendments up for vote. One is for a state repeal of Obamacare (From what I've heard this wouldn't actually repeal anything and just make a statement about what Florida wants). Another is for a state ban on funding for abortions/funding for healthcare that covers abortions except in the case of rape/incest/life of mother and would overturn court rulings which would limit the right to privacy to not exceed whatever the US constitution says (i.e. if Roe v Wade ever got overturned they could ban abortions). The third one is on religious freedom and would overturn the ban on state funding/benefits/other support to religious organizations except as mandated by the US Constitution. If the race is close it seems like Obama has a shot but its hard to see him overcoming how Republican leaning we've been without a crazy turnout like in 08. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 07 2012 02:41 cLAN.Anax wrote: Was going to argue that he was on the ballot in my state, but that makes sense. I wholeheartedly concur. Meh. I tried. I'm one of the 5%. It is an odd confluence of happenings I'll give you that. Good on you for voting Johnson, I don't support the man myself but I am thinking of voting for Stein in a similar effort. There is no way my state doesn't go for Obama this year anyway. | ||
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