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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
November 06 2012 17:46 GMT
#24541
Just got back from voting in Virginia.

50 minute line wasn't that bad at all, overheard the precinct head tell a friend my polling place is up to around 40% turnout, which is pretty typical voting for where I am.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
November 06 2012 17:47 GMT
#24542
I hope everyone has a stress and problem free voting day; having sent in my vote early, I can sit back and watch the chaos unfold.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Innovation
Profile Joined February 2010
United States284 Posts
November 06 2012 17:51 GMT
#24543
I live in Los Angeles in a lower income area and there was no line for me at all. I walked straight up to the table and got my ballot and straight to a booth. I was in and out in under 5 minutes. Since i'm in California it doesn't matter who I vote for in the presidential race so I'm mostly concerned with my local ballot measures. Was very nice to vote and still get to work on time.
About ChoyafOu "if he wants games decided by random chance he could just play the way he always does" Idra
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6220 Posts
November 06 2012 17:54 GMT
#24544
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
November 06 2012 17:54 GMT
#24545
On November 07 2012 02:47 farvacola wrote:
I hope everyone has a stress and problem free voting day; having sent in my vote early, I can sit back and watch the chaos unfold.


Same. I'm taking my mind off of it with all of the entertainment that's been released in the past 24 hours: season finale of Red vs. Blue, Episode 3 of Takahata's Hellsing Abdriged, Halo 4....

Seriously, just don't sweat it, guys. Besides your personal vote, it'll be what it'll be. I'm merely waiting for late tonight/early tomorrow since it doesn't actually matter until all the votes are in.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 06 2012 17:55 GMT
#24546
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.


We are within 24 hours of the first voting precincts closing tomorrow. For the next day or two lets keep discussions about poll bias and voter fraud to a minimum. These amount to conspiracy theories until there is something of substance to back them up and you will be warned/banned accordingly if you bring them into this thread.
- Effective as of page 1205

That note is pretty hard to see. Maybe if I quote you and post it you'll see it.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
November 06 2012 17:58 GMT
#24547
On November 07 2012 02:55 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.


We are within 24 hours of the first voting precincts closing tomorrow. For the next day or two lets keep discussions about poll bias and voter fraud to a minimum. These amount to conspiracy theories until there is something of substance to back them up and you will be warned/banned accordingly if you bring them into this thread.
- Effective as of page 1205

That note is pretty hard to see. Maybe if I quote you and post it you'll see it.


I'd say a video, as is linked in that reddit thread, is pretty convincing evidence that its ral.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 06 2012 18:01 GMT
#24548
On November 07 2012 02:58 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:55 Risen wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.


We are within 24 hours of the first voting precincts closing tomorrow. For the next day or two lets keep discussions about poll bias and voter fraud to a minimum. These amount to conspiracy theories until there is something of substance to back them up and you will be warned/banned accordingly if you bring them into this thread.
- Effective as of page 1205

That note is pretty hard to see. Maybe if I quote you and post it you'll see it.


I'd say a video, as is linked in that reddit thread, is pretty convincing evidence that its ral.


I would say there are too few details available in the thread and video description for this video to not meet the mod warning.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 06 2012 18:01 GMT
#24549
On November 07 2012 02:58 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:55 Risen wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.


We are within 24 hours of the first voting precincts closing tomorrow. For the next day or two lets keep discussions about poll bias and voter fraud to a minimum. These amount to conspiracy theories until there is something of substance to back them up and you will be warned/banned accordingly if you bring them into this thread.
- Effective as of page 1205

That note is pretty hard to see. Maybe if I quote you and post it you'll see it.


I'd say a video, as is linked in that reddit thread, is pretty convincing evidence that its ral.


Videos can't be faked. It's been confirmed as a widespread issue affecting more than just that one machine. You right.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6220 Posts
November 06 2012 18:02 GMT
#24550
On November 07 2012 02:55 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.


We are within 24 hours of the first voting precincts closing tomorrow. For the next day or two lets keep discussions about poll bias and voter fraud to a minimum. These amount to conspiracy theories until there is something of substance to back them up and you will be warned/banned accordingly if you bring them into this thread.
- Effective as of page 1205

That note is pretty hard to see. Maybe if I quote you and post it you'll see it.


Well given that the top comment is a detailed explanation of what's happening in the video and how one can vote for obama, the most upvoted reply to that is a CNN reporter, I think it might be good to take a look at it. If there's substance behind it, CNN will run the story later in the day.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 18:06:54
November 06 2012 18:06 GMT
#24551
On November 07 2012 03:02 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:55 Risen wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.


We are within 24 hours of the first voting precincts closing tomorrow. For the next day or two lets keep discussions about poll bias and voter fraud to a minimum. These amount to conspiracy theories until there is something of substance to back them up and you will be warned/banned accordingly if you bring them into this thread.
- Effective as of page 1205

That note is pretty hard to see. Maybe if I quote you and post it you'll see it.


Well given that the top comment is a detailed explanation of what's happening in the video and how one can vote for obama, the most upvoted reply to that is a CNN reporter, I think it might be good to take a look at it. If there's substance behind it, CNN will run the story later in the day.


Sweet, and then you can run wild with your conspiracy. Right now this is an unsubstantiated claim that might only affect one machine so it's just paranoid nonsense that clogs up the thread.

Edit: And it's not a detailed explanation. It explains what happens in the video. And a single reporter commenting on it asking questions also does not verify anything.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 18:12:04
November 06 2012 18:10 GMT
#24552
the design for the touchscreen thing is clearly questionable. you should have something that's more than 1 cm apart.

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Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
November 06 2012 18:12 GMT
#24553
The whole point of that warning about talking about fraud was probably to avoid having a discussion like this.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
November 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#24554
On November 07 2012 03:06 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 03:02 Lmui wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:55 Risen wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.


We are within 24 hours of the first voting precincts closing tomorrow. For the next day or two lets keep discussions about poll bias and voter fraud to a minimum. These amount to conspiracy theories until there is something of substance to back them up and you will be warned/banned accordingly if you bring them into this thread.
- Effective as of page 1205

That note is pretty hard to see. Maybe if I quote you and post it you'll see it.


Well given that the top comment is a detailed explanation of what's happening in the video and how one can vote for obama, the most upvoted reply to that is a CNN reporter, I think it might be good to take a look at it. If there's substance behind it, CNN will run the story later in the day.


Sweet, and then you can run wild with your conspiracy. Right now this is an unsubstantiated claim that might only affect one machine so it's just paranoid nonsense that clogs up the thread.

Edit: And it's not a detailed explanation. It explains what happens in the video. And a single reporter commenting on it asking questions also does not verify anything.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with Risen here. Even the interest of a CNN reporter is probably more telling of their news dredging strategy rather than this being an indication that the story is legitimate. In any case, this bit of information is a poor topic for discussion; we are inevitably led down a path of unanswerable questions, an endless source critique, and eventually conspiracy becomes unavoidable. Better to wait and see if any major news networks pick up the story.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
November 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#24555
It has to do with the calibration of the voting screen being off. There were reports of this going the other way (Romney votes going for Obama) during early voting. Anyone that's used a touchscreen POS (point of service) at a job has probably seen the same thing happen. The touchscreen just has to be calibrated again.
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
November 06 2012 18:16 GMT
#24556
On November 07 2012 02:54 Lmui wrote:
Holy shit this blew up quickly

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12q6wu/2012_voting_machine_altering_votes/

Some minor coverage on major news sites already.

I live in central pa and that's the same machine I used today. It worked fine for me, I'll go back when my brother goes to vote and see if it works again.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 18:17:27
November 06 2012 18:16 GMT
#24557
On November 07 2012 03:12 Irrelevant Label wrote:
The whole point of that warning about talking about fraud was probably to avoid having a discussion like this.


If you have the slightest inkling that your vote is being misrepresented, communicate that to an election judge. Period. At best, what we know is that there was a malfunctioning voting machine in a yet undetermined state.

EDIT: State seems to be PA.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 06 2012 18:17 GMT
#24558
On November 07 2012 03:14 ey215 wrote:
It has to do with the calibration of the voting screen being off. There were reports of this going the other way (Romney votes going for Obama) during early voting. Anyone that's used a touchscreen POS (point of service) at a job has probably seen the same thing happen. The touchscreen just has to be calibrated again.

The machine I voted on today had a physical button but was still digital. It makes a lot more sense really to just avoid stuff like this. That video is very suspect, if that happened to me I would record a whole lot more than a 15sec video of the corner of the screen. As would any reasonable person.
dude bro.
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
November 06 2012 18:21 GMT
#24559
On November 07 2012 03:17 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 03:14 ey215 wrote:
It has to do with the calibration of the voting screen being off. There were reports of this going the other way (Romney votes going for Obama) during early voting. Anyone that's used a touchscreen POS (point of service) at a job has probably seen the same thing happen. The touchscreen just has to be calibrated again.

The machine I voted on today had a physical button but was still digital. It makes a lot more sense really to just avoid stuff like this. That video is very suspect, if that happened to me I would record a whole lot more than a 15sec video of the corner of the screen. As would any reasonable person.


Don't get me wrong, I wasn't commenting on whether or not we should be using touchscreen balloting (I actually think bubble paper ballots are best) it's just that having to recalibrate touchscreens is part of touchscreen technology for everything.

If something like this happens to you, go to a poll worker and they'll get it fixed and let you cast your ballot on another machine.

It's just not, OMGVOTERSUPPRESSIONCONSPIRACY!!!!

heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 06 2012 18:22 GMT
#24560
On November 07 2012 03:21 ey215 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 03:17 heliusx wrote:
On November 07 2012 03:14 ey215 wrote:
It has to do with the calibration of the voting screen being off. There were reports of this going the other way (Romney votes going for Obama) during early voting. Anyone that's used a touchscreen POS (point of service) at a job has probably seen the same thing happen. The touchscreen just has to be calibrated again.

The machine I voted on today had a physical button but was still digital. It makes a lot more sense really to just avoid stuff like this. That video is very suspect, if that happened to me I would record a whole lot more than a 15sec video of the corner of the screen. As would any reasonable person.


Don't get me wrong, I wasn't commenting on whether or not we should be using touchscreen balloting (I actually think bubble paper ballots are best) it's just that having to recalibrate touchscreens is part of touchscreen technology for everything.

If something like this happens to you, go to a poll worker and they'll get it fixed and let you cast your ballot on another machine.

It's just not, OMGVOTERSUPPRESSIONCONSPIRACY!!!!


oh no, lol. I only quoted you because you we're talking about the touch screens.
dude bro.
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