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I'm in NJ and a couple people at the polling center gave me props for going out and voting, He said only 6 young people had been there so far at 11:00AM (I'm 22). I waited in line for about 10-15min. People said they had never seen a line there before but this is likely because people are still home and out of work due to hurricane Sandy.
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Just you know, fair warning, tonight will only be preliminary and the whole thing is probably going to take the rest of the week to decide iKill.
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Awwww shiieet, election day bitches! 5 hours until I vote. California Bankruptcy 2012~!
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On November 07 2012 01:27 ggrrg wrote:That's very strange. Those 0.7% are exactly 43 votes ^^ Why even bother to make such an update...
A couple tiny NH towns voted already and these are the results.
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1685083
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On November 06 2012 23:53 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 23:50 Signet wrote:On November 06 2012 18:24 paralleluniverse wrote:
As for the fiscal cliff, is Signet the only person in this thread who thinks hitting the fiscal cliff is a good idea? Supposing that he is a Republican or at least Republican leaning, then at least he's not a hypocrite on this issue.
Compare this to Romney or other Republicans who believe the fiscal cliff will wreck the economy, while at the same time believing that stimulus is bad and that deficits are bad. Such a belief is self-contradictory and completely hypocritical.
I don't think hitting the cliff is a good idea. I think deficit hawks (which I'm not) should be saddened that neither party is willing to actually go through with it. Yes, I agree. I've asked that question probably ten times in this thread and no one has been able to answer. No Republican here is able to explain their hypocrisy on the fiscal cliff. That's one reason why people shouldn't vote for Romney.
Wanting to cut the deficit doesn't necessarily supersede all other considerations.
For example if you want to cut your own household budget because you are racking up too much debt you wouldn't want to stop heating your house in the winter. That's not hypocritical - that's smart.
Similarly, no-one is happy with the fiscal cliff - both from the standpoint of its composition and its timetable. So the only way someone is being hypocritical is if they have taken the stance of opposing the deficit "by any means necessary" - a stance that is taken by a very minority of people.
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For my birthday, I would like some democracy.
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Interesting results going into the day in Ohio. The margins of error still make it kind of a toss up, but Mitt's auto bail out might have hurt him a bit more in the state
Source
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When is this starting? Like when will they tally the votes?
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On November 07 2012 01:38 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 23:53 paralleluniverse wrote:On November 06 2012 23:50 Signet wrote:On November 06 2012 18:24 paralleluniverse wrote:
As for the fiscal cliff, is Signet the only person in this thread who thinks hitting the fiscal cliff is a good idea? Supposing that he is a Republican or at least Republican leaning, then at least he's not a hypocrite on this issue.
Compare this to Romney or other Republicans who believe the fiscal cliff will wreck the economy, while at the same time believing that stimulus is bad and that deficits are bad. Such a belief is self-contradictory and completely hypocritical.
I don't think hitting the cliff is a good idea. I think deficit hawks (which I'm not) should be saddened that neither party is willing to actually go through with it. Yes, I agree. I've asked that question probably ten times in this thread and no one has been able to answer. No Republican here is able to explain their hypocrisy on the fiscal cliff. That's one reason why people shouldn't vote for Romney. Wanting to cut the deficit doesn't necessarily supersede all other considerations. For example if you want to cut your own household budget because you are racking up too much debt you wouldn't want to stop heating your house in the winter. That's not hypocritical - that's smart. Similarly, no-one is happy with the fiscal cliff - both from the standpoint of its composition and its timetable. So the only way someone is being hypocritical is if they have taken the stance of opposing the deficit "by any means necessary" - a stance that is taken by a very minority of people.
Everyone wants to cut the deficit eventually.
It make sense that some people think that massively reducing the deficit quickly is bad, that we should do it slowly, and that not all cuts are good, which is what you're basically saying. But the logic leading that person to believe that massively cutting the deficit in the short term is bad for the economy, also implies that increasing the deficit in the short term is good for the economy.
Therefore, the hypocritical Republican position I'm talking about is believing:
1) Hitting the fiscal cliff is bad because it massively reduces the deficit through spending and tax cuts while the economy is still in a recession.
2) A large increase to the deficit by increasing spending in a recession will not stimulate the economy.
Simultaneously holding both beliefs makes no sense to me.
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On November 07 2012 01:49 qanik wrote:
When is this starting? Like when will they tally the votes?
were about 7 hours from preliminary results as per the television.
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On November 07 2012 01:49 qanik wrote:
When is this starting? Like when will they tally the votes?
Starting from midnight CET as far as i know, Correct me if i'm wrong.
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On November 07 2012 01:49 qanik wrote:
When is this starting? Like when will they tally the votes?
Voting has started in pretty much every state. As districts report in, most major news outlets will begin to report the status of electoral votes in each state.
This is pretty much my favorite resource for US election coverage and what I'll be using because I don't have a TV.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/
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go go Romney !!!
I mean.. both are pretty bad.. but Romney is still much better than Obama.
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On November 07 2012 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Interesting results going into the day in Ohio. The margins of error still make it kind of a toss up, but Mitt's auto bail out might have hurt him a bit more in the state Source
When there are multiple polls saying the same thing, the margin of error becomes a lot smaller than any individual poll.
Even RCP has Obama winning all battleground states except NC and FL, that's 305 EV for Obama. And I believe this is the most likely outcome.
The next most likely outcome is probably as above but with Obama winning FL instead. Nate Silver puts the probability of Obama winning FL as exactly 50% currently.
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On November 07 2012 01:56 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Interesting results going into the day in Ohio. The margins of error still make it kind of a toss up, but Mitt's auto bail out might have hurt him a bit more in the state Source When there are multiple polls saying the same thing, the margin of error becomes a lot smaller than any individual poll. Even RCP has Obama winning all battleground states except NC and FL, that's 305 EV for Obama. And I believe this is the most likely outcome. The next most likely outcome is probably as above but with Obama winning FL instead. Nate Silver puts the probability of Obama winning FL as exactly 50% currently.
Seems like the case to me. I love this site for the sheer aggregate data. Today's polls as they come in as well. Virginia is looking a bit more competitive.
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Just got home from voting. According to the poll workers I was talking to. my polling place (suburban Atlanta) had an hour to an hour and a half wait before work. It took me about 15 minutes.
When I looked at the ballots last night pretty much all of my local races were uncontested, however a lot of Libertarian candidates showed up on the voting machine so I was happy to encourage growing a third party locally instead of waiting for a big presidential candidate to come along and elevate a third party.
While I voted for Romney, I expect the President to win. Besides voting for him, I hope that Romney wins just so I can watch the explosion on MSNBC. 
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On November 07 2012 02:13 ey215 wrote:Just got home from voting. According to the poll workers I was talking to. my polling place (suburban Atlanta) had an hour to an hour and a half wait before work. It took me about 15 minutes. When I looked at the ballots last night pretty much all of my local races were uncontested, however a lot of Libertarian candidates showed up on the voting machine so I was happy to encourage growing a third party locally instead of waiting for a big presidential candidate to come along and elevate a third party. While I voted for Romney, I expect the President to win. Besides voting for him, I hope that Romney wins just so I can watch the explosion on MSNBC.
The explosion on TL would probably be more entertaining. You'd hear vote fraud and conspiracy claims for months. But I don't think we are that lucky. 
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On November 07 2012 02:17 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 02:13 ey215 wrote:Just got home from voting. According to the poll workers I was talking to. my polling place (suburban Atlanta) had an hour to an hour and a half wait before work. It took me about 15 minutes. When I looked at the ballots last night pretty much all of my local races were uncontested, however a lot of Libertarian candidates showed up on the voting machine so I was happy to encourage growing a third party locally instead of waiting for a big presidential candidate to come along and elevate a third party. While I voted for Romney, I expect the President to win. Besides voting for him, I hope that Romney wins just so I can watch the explosion on MSNBC. The explosion on TL would probably be more entertaining. You'd hear vote fraud and conspiracy claims for months. But I don't think we are that lucky.
You know, I'm pretty damn sure Obama will win. Romney isn't ready.
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I was just about to ask this question so re-quoting so more people find it. And also posing a follow-up question:
Will PBS do a full-time cover-type show or did you just mean that they will post news updates every hour or something?
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