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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 06 2012 15:41 GMT
#24461
On November 07 2012 00:39 dosmoipasto wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 07 2012 00:37 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:35 dosmoipasto wrote:
I voted early, for Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala. If the green ticket gets 5% of the popular vote, next cycle, they qualify for public campaign financing (primary, convention, and general election), like Ross Perot did in 1996/2000. GAME CHANGER! A vote for Green is not a wasted one.

HF voting Americans.

what state are you in you dirty tree hugger.

i think the greens are the party of the future for young people if only they can get their shit together on not being so stridently antibusiness in the rhetoric


Green Party here, Illinois.

that's cool. go jill.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 06 2012 15:41 GMT
#24462
On November 07 2012 00:35 Gatored wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
That's exactly what he's saying. Class warfare at its finest.


Yea, it's only too bad that it's not his twitter account. You people love to jump on things quickly.


Just some supporter tweeting Mitt leaning points, and standard rhetoric, did ok in followers for the endeavor though.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 06 2012 15:41 GMT
#24463
an hour to cast your vote????

either the turnout is really really high or you guys really are disorganized o_O
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dosmoipasto
Profile Joined February 2011
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 15:43:34
November 06 2012 15:41 GMT
#24464
On November 07 2012 00:39 mordek wrote:
Who would you say has the best shot at 5% (let's assume one of the parties would). Green or Libertarian?


Green has to be written in, in nine more states, i.e. not on ballot. However, Jill Stein is more popular AFAIK, she killed the third party debates.
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
November 06 2012 15:42 GMT
#24465
As long as Americans as a whole are happy with having voting day on Tuesday, I'm in no position to say no to it. However, I find it really strange that U.S., arguably the de facto leader of democracy in the world, doesn't implement a voting system that ensures as many voter turnout as possible. Having election on Tuesday even when some states don't allow early vote doesn't sound optimal. Constitution, the history behind it etc. are all old reasons which are not logical any more. To oversimplify, more voter turnout = better democracy in principle. I'm a bit puzzled why moving it to a holiday for better voter turnout is not an option for one of the bigger, greatest democratic nation of the world.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
November 06 2012 15:43 GMT
#24466
On November 07 2012 00:35 Gatored wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
That's exactly what he's saying. Class warfare at its finest.


Yea, it's only too bad that it's not his twitter account. You people love to jump on things quickly.


"You people" -- Good lord. It doesn't matter if it's Romney or not, that's a popular premise and rallying cry for their side. Ever since that 47% gaffe.
Remember Violet.
dosmoipasto
Profile Joined February 2011
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 15:48:23
November 06 2012 15:46 GMT
#24467
On November 07 2012 00:42 Orek wrote:
As long as Americans as a whole are happy with having voting day on Tuesday, I'm in no position to say no to it. However, I find it really strange that U.S., arguably the de facto leader of democracy in the world, doesn't implement a voting system that ensures as many voter turnout as possible. Having election on Tuesday even when some states don't allow early vote doesn't sound optimal. Constitution, the history behind it etc. are all old reasons which are not logical any more. To oversimplify, more voter turnout = better democracy in principle. I'm a bit puzzled why moving it to a holiday for better voter turnout is not an option for one of the bigger, greatest democratic nation of the world.


The US has such low voter turnout, IMO, because, our society is so inwardly and individualistic. We generally do not think our problems are with systems. We take on more hours, send Grandpa back to work, take on a bunch of debt, etc. Not much of a political community, country-wide. Per work year, we work more than any work force, are exhausted, our families are breaking down, and political disillusioned.

note, -opinion
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 06 2012 15:48 GMT
#24468
To make some easy money betting on Obama or not...hmm xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 06 2012 15:48 GMT
#24469
On November 07 2012 00:42 Orek wrote:
As long as Americans as a whole are happy with having voting day on Tuesday, I'm in no position to say no to it. However, I find it really strange that U.S., arguably the de facto leader of democracy in the world, doesn't implement a voting system that ensures as many voter turnout as possible. Having election on Tuesday even when some states don't allow early vote doesn't sound optimal. Constitution, the history behind it etc. are all old reasons which are not logical any more. To oversimplify, more voter turnout = better democracy in principle. I'm a bit puzzled why moving it to a holiday for better voter turnout is not an option for one of the bigger, greatest democratic nation of the world.

from what I've seen, some states seem to implement a system that allows you to vote days or weeks earlier
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seoul_kiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States545 Posts
November 06 2012 15:49 GMT
#24470
If you have any friends who are spitting lazy or stupid excuses send them this site and guilt/shame them into voting!!

VOTE GUYS VOTE!!

http://yourexcusesucks.com/
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dosmoipasto
Profile Joined February 2011
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 15:52:21
November 06 2012 15:49 GMT
#24471
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
dosmoipasto
Profile Joined February 2011
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 15:51:08
November 06 2012 15:50 GMT
#24472
On November 07 2012 00:48 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:42 Orek wrote:
As long as Americans as a whole are happy with having voting day on Tuesday, I'm in no position to say no to it. However, I find it really strange that U.S., arguably the de facto leader of democracy in the world, doesn't implement a voting system that ensures as many voter turnout as possible. Having election on Tuesday even when some states don't allow early vote doesn't sound optimal. Constitution, the history behind it etc. are all old reasons which are not logical any more. To oversimplify, more voter turnout = better democracy in principle. I'm a bit puzzled why moving it to a holiday for better voter turnout is not an option for one of the bigger, greatest democratic nation of the world.

from what I've seen, some states seem to implement a system that allows you to vote days or weeks earlier

I did this, Illinois, voted on Friday, 11-2.
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 15:53:10
November 06 2012 15:51 GMT
#24473
Children
Non voting felons
Non citizens
------------------------
Then there's the people that just don't care enough. I think you're way overblowing the amount of people that simply don't vote.


Also yeah I voted the weekend before Halloween. Why go stand in a line to vote and be surprised at a bunch of local candidate for SOIL AND WATER MANAGEMENT or some obscure local level addendum to the ballot. That's how jackasses get elected. You walk in and have no idea who these people are so you vote for the first one.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
dosmoipasto
Profile Joined February 2011
United States48 Posts
November 06 2012 15:52 GMT
#24474
Double post, sorry.
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 06 2012 15:53 GMT
#24475
I found it interesting I had the "Straight Libertarian" vote option at the beginning of my ballot (Indiana). That's something, right?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
November 06 2012 15:54 GMT
#24476
On November 07 2012 00:48 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:42 Orek wrote:
As long as Americans as a whole are happy with having voting day on Tuesday, I'm in no position to say no to it. However, I find it really strange that U.S., arguably the de facto leader of democracy in the world, doesn't implement a voting system that ensures as many voter turnout as possible. Having election on Tuesday even when some states don't allow early vote doesn't sound optimal. Constitution, the history behind it etc. are all old reasons which are not logical any more. To oversimplify, more voter turnout = better democracy in principle. I'm a bit puzzled why moving it to a holiday for better voter turnout is not an option for one of the bigger, greatest democratic nation of the world.

from what I've seen, some states seem to implement a system that allows you to vote days or weeks earlier


Yes and the whole Tuesday thing is historic reason that people needed time to leave their farm and go to town if you are to believe :

Source 1
Source 2
Good old wikipedia

I'm not sure how long it takes to vote in Canada, since I generally always attend advance polls...
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 15:57:34
November 06 2012 15:55 GMT
#24477
On November 07 2012 00:51 Probe1 wrote:
Children
Non voting felons
Non citizens
------------------------
Then there's the people that just don't care enough. I think you're way overblowing the amount of people that simply don't vote.


Also yeah I voted the weekend before Halloween. Why go stand in a line to vote and be surprised at a bunch of local candidate for SOIL AND WATER MANAGEMENT or some obscure local level addendum to the ballot. That's how jackasses get elected. You walk in and have no idea who these people are so you vote for the first one.


Felons aren't automatically precluded from voting.

Also, you should go online ahead of time to get a preview of the ballot so you don't have to spend that time at the precinct.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 06 2012 16:05 GMT
#24478
Just got 1.17 on Obama >.< not really that good! But put £100 on for some easy money :3

Romney drifting out every minute, must of done something wrong?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
November 06 2012 16:08 GMT
#24479
On November 07 2012 00:41 DOUDOU wrote:
an hour to cast your vote????

either the turnout is really really high or you guys really are disorganized o_O


It's probably a little bit of both.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 06 2012 16:10 GMT
#24480
On November 07 2012 01:05 Pandemona wrote:
Romney drifting out every minute, must of done something wrong?

you mean recently?
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