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On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased.
The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda.
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On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda.
huh? Now you are just trying to drag me by the legs.
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On October 27 2012 06:45 radiatoren wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. huh?
So-called "journalists" have been trying to subtly (and often times not-so-subtly) push their political agendas for years now. They can do this by wording things a certain way or as others in this thread mentioned, editorial bias, where they only report on things that fit their narrative.
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On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda.
Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you.
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On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you.
Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.
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On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.
By that logic almost everything the government pushes for is totalita--ah, now I understand jd.
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On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.
Only in America would gun control be equated to totalitarism.
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On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.
I just don't understand how you can be sure that your interpretation is correct. It seems you are reading too much into a wry formulation from a journalist!
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On October 27 2012 06:49 Souma wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. By that logic almost everything the government pushes for is totalita--ah, now I understand jd.
I didn't say that, but trying to violate our civil liberties is totalitarian, be it attacks on the right to bear arms, the right to free speech, the rights of the accused, etc.
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On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.
This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian.
And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?
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On October 27 2012 06:51 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:49 Souma wrote:On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. By that logic almost everything the government pushes for is totalita--ah, now I understand jd. I didn't say that, but trying to violate our civil liberties is totalitarian, be it attacks on the right to bear arms, the right to free speech, the rights of the accused, etc.
making you pay taxes? Totalitarian regime
having a law. any law at all? Totalitarian regime
really dude. the word Total is the important part here. not any. Total.
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On October 27 2012 06:51 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:49 Souma wrote:On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. By that logic almost everything the government pushes for is totalita--ah, now I understand jd. I didn't say that, but trying to violate our civil liberties is totalitarian, be it attacks on the right to bear arms, the right to free speech, the rights of the accused, etc.
Just because something is written on a piece of paper does not make it a legitimate right. As much as I support our gun culture, you take it a bit too far.
I'd get into it more with you but I have to get to work. Gotta get a liberal scum elected! 
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I was so glad that this thread made 1000 pages as a testament that we could have coherent, intelligent political discourse, and then Swazi Spring appeared.
Why the fuck are we still talking about Benghazi? A "reliable source" from the State Department said something happened? A "reliable source" from THE BLAZE, which we know A. spins the fuck out of everything and B. has been outright wrong on more than one occasion.
Remember when Harry Reid said he had a "reliable source" about Romney's taxes? People (on both sides of the aisle I might add) shot it down. So please, quit it and start arguing about Laffer Curves and Supply-Side economics and the size of Freud's dick or whatever.
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On October 27 2012 06:38 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:35 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. While there is a difference between handgun rights and buying an AK on every street corner, I agree that its a strange choice of words. Just because people have the right to buy an AK-47 "on every street corner" doesn't make them violent either. Guns don't make people violent, no matter what kind of gun it is.
Correct. It simply makes mass violence much, much easier. Which I believe is the argument frequently made by anti-gun people and frequently ignored by pro-gun people, but this is getting off the debate.
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On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian. And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?
Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.
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On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian. And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings? Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.
By your reasoning, the entire social contract is invalid and we should just dissolve into anarchy already.
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On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian. And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings? Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.
Nature gave me the right to violently murder those I disagree with. Who is the government to infringe upon such things?
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On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian. And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?
Call it what it is, violence.
Violence /=/ Gun Culture
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On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian. And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings? Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.
We had this conversation before i think...
Our rights come from nature?
Does the ground strike me down when i break a right?
Does thunder strike me down?
Does a Deer have the right to not get eaten by a tiger if a weaker animal is within walking distance?
The only reason Rights exist is because we as a species have decided so, mostly on Moral grounds.
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On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:On October 27 2012 06:44 Swazi Spring wrote:On October 27 2012 06:42 radiatoren wrote:On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious: Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups. Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent. I would never have thought about the phrase "gun culture" carrying a liberal slant in general. I just see it as a way to describe how a populaton treat guns. In this context it is used as a derogative because Libya is in almost anarchy, but in general it seems like a very thin annotation to justify a label as politically biased. The term can have very positive connotations, such as in the United States, where Americans take pride in their gun culture. This "journalist" clearly used the phrase in a negative (and incorrect) manner, so he could attack Americans and subtly push his totalitarian agenda. Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you. Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism. This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian. And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings? Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.
Please stop sir. Your language is vulgarly slanted and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about...
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