Columbine Anniversary - Page 3

On April 17 2012 15:24 corpuscle wrote:
After reading this, I spent about three hours reading Wikipedia articles about serial killers and now won't be able to sleep, so... thanks for that, I guess.

I guess this is semi off-topic but seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Colombia? The top three on the list of most murders by one serial killer are all from Colombia, and apparently their justice system is absolutely terrible at actually keeping those people in prison. Can anyone explain why Colombia (and Ecuador, and Brazil) don't imprison for life?

On April 17 2012 14:57 kellenr wrote:


Oh yes I remember when I saw that documentary... I was literally inconsolable. The part where they let him go, knowing he's killed over 300 children, my brain just couldn't take it... Yeah, I should have put him on that list. At the very freaking top. The Monster of the fucking Andes. God what I could do with 10 minutes alone with that guy.

I despise child killers with such a unique, burning hatred. I mean it's bad enough you've got to kill people. Can't you at least pick on someone your own size? You have to pick on a fucking seven year old? And a girl at that? You're that much of a spineless bitch?

God, a high-caliber rifle and a clear sky--ten minutes. All I would need to solve that little problem.

On April 18 2012 05:24 PanN wrote:


I enjoy reading about serial killers too. But I think your mentality of "oh god what I would do if i had 10 minutes with him" and "god a high caliber rifle and a clear sky, ten minutes" is pretty damn disgusting in itself.

On April 18 2012 07:34 kellenr wrote:


I'm aware that's how most people feel. I know there is evil in the world, and I feel it is my responsibility as a free man to confront it. I don't expect anyone else to agree with me. I don't want to argue about capital punishment. It's cyclical and unending. Suffice to say, I think capital punishment should only be an option for multiple murderers (more than 10) and serial killers, and only in the face of overwhelming evidence. We, especially here in Texas, hand it out a little too willy-nilly. But some people deserve to die and you'll never change my mind on that, so don't bother trying.

I think the idea that there is no amount lives a man can take to be deserving of his own being taken is silly.

More than anything, it frustrates me how hard these bastard, murdering, psychopathic fucks fight for THEIR lives. That right there tells me we need to keep killing them off. If it means that much to them, good, all the better reason to take it. These monsters need a taste of their own medicine because they literally don't understand anything else. But no, they're granted appeal after appeal after appeal. I bet all the innocence fucking children they murdered would like an appeal.

I'm only expressing my opinion. Yeah, it would be disgusting to shoot an innocent person. But someone that's murdered 300 CHILDREN? I could think of no better use for a bullet, ever.

As a matter of fact, do a little math with me here. 300 children... lets assume half of them have two parents, and half of them have at least one parent and one grand parent. Lets also assume all of them have a least two close friends. So that's about 1,200 lives this one, single individual ruined. And I don't think you fully comprehend just how "ruined" these parents/grandparents lives are. They literally never recover, ever, no matter what. You can't offer them the tiny solace of knowing that the monster that did it is dead? Well, that's your problem. I'd serve that tiny little comfort up to them in a heartbeat.

I just realized I said I wouldn't argue about it, and then I argued about it. Sorry. Not trying to start a flame war. You can just tell it hits... really close to my heart. I honestly used to be totally indifferent towards the death penalty. Not for or against it. And then I read all these stories and... there was just no going back. I didn't know there were so many horrible humans so deserving of death. I've read so much about all the damage these monsters have done and it just hurts my soul that no one's dishing it back at them. I mean, we need a Dexter out there. We need someone hunting the hunters. Instead they run wild and free and prey upon women and children literally at will--ruining thousands of lives along the way. As I type these words, there is an abducted woman somewhere, being raped and tortured and burned and hung and strangled and taunted and spit on and finally killed, all so one of these sick fucks can get off. I know. I’ve read the stories. In their own words. I read about one guy that would kidnap little girls and torture them for MONTHS. They would beg to die literally every day. And you know what he’d tell them, the whole time? That he was going to eat them. That their asses would taste nice. So, that’s the last thing these little girls got to see, got to hear. “I am going to eat you.” And he did. He ate them. All seven of them. Oh, and you know how he'd finally kill them? He'd stick an icepick in between their second and third fucking rib, right into their heart, and they would slowly bleed out internally. They would bleed out of their eyes and ears and nose and mouth, and it takes literally hours to die like this. And he would just taunt them the whole time. "Accept that you are going to die," is what he repeated to them.

Typing that makes tears whell in my eyes, and I'm not even fucking with you. It makes my jaw muscles pull taught. That's someones baby girl. And that's how she died. Her parents are going to carry that burden to the grave.

There is a monster, as I type these words, visiting the most unspeakable horrors on some tied up little girl. And it makes my fucking blood boil. I literally need them to know that I would kill them back. I know that seems silly, doesn't make any sense but... it's just very personal to me.

My solutions might not be the best, but at least I fucking care. More than I can say for most the apathetic people in this country. You can tell it's the child-killers that really get me going. I just... can't take it.

I think The Dude said it best: "This aggression will not stand... man."

On April 18 2012 11:03 PanN wrote:


None of this changes the fact that I still think its wrong for you to find joy in killing someone. I'm not against the death penalty, I am very much for it, and the sick individuals that you've mentioned deserve it. But torturing them back then killing them doesn't teach them a lesson, it just helps someone like you get off on justice.

On April 18 2012 11:33 kellenr wrote:


I do not want this to devolve into a flame fest, so I'll keep it short. When you say I "find joy in killing someone," you make the issue a little too black and white. A serial-killer finds joy in killing "someone." I find joy in killing someone that has killed literally hundreds of children. If you think that makes me despicable, and "like them," then so be it. I think it makes me more like a republican than a serial killer, and I hate them too--so I wish you didn't feel that way. I think there is a slight difference between "someone" and "a murderer of 10 - 300 children." When you do that, in my opinion, you revoke your right to life.

Wait, you're for the death penalty? Now I’m just way, way confused. I'm sorry. Clearly I'm being ridiculous. I see both sides of the argument. I totally see how others don't feel like I do. My only defense is, I feel as though I have the burden of knowledge, and it is a heavy burden to carry. The more I understand them, the more I want to fight against them. I wish you could understand that I'm not some sick individual for feeling that way. But you are entitled to your opinion.

On April 17 2012 11:41 sc4k wrote:
Pretty sure being bullied in an American High School is not a worst case scenario of humanity. See: people living in slums in Brazil, India, Africa...child armies, sex slavery, etc.

On April 17 2012 11:41 sc4k wrote:
Hmm, I'm not sure people draw their entire personality from their environment.

On April 17 2012 08:45 Endymion wrote:
it's stupid how you give him and his aspirations so much credit.. imo his diaries are just that: angsty teen ramblings that just happened to manifest in this attrocity.. you think his aspirations were similar to that of hitler's? hitler didn't want to kill everyone, he wanted to 'cleanse the aryan race.' he wasn't smart either, have you read the papers that he handed in? his hate blinded his reason, and clouded his judgement as a result; the kid was an immature spoiled brat who fancied himself a mass murder.

in particular i wanna talk about the point how he "wanted to fuck girls while he was doing it then rip someones throat out.'' He didn't do either of these... neither did his partner. They both had the weapons and capabilities to do it, but they didn't, because their writings were pure angst. If you ask me what was going through their head in the last few minutes while they walked around was "wow.. this was a really fucking stupid idea, i probably should have just punched a pillow"

On April 17 2012 05:47 kellenr wrote:
More than anything Columbine left me with a visceral sense of victimhood. The amount that was stolen from so many by so few on that day is truly unimaginable.

So what makes a psychopath? What does Columbine mean to you? Do you think you would have recovered quickly or slowly? Could you forgive them? Do you remember where you were when it happened?