EPTShooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 427
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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publicenemies
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On July 14 2013 11:49 dotHead wrote: "Knock knock"... "Who's there?"... NOT GUILTY! Now go tell that joke to one of the black people waiting outside the court. | ||
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
I just know I think Florida and its gated communities are really fucked up creepy places, having been to them before myself as well. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On July 14 2013 11:45 ticklishmusic wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/marissa-alexander-gets-20_n_1530035.html Meanwhile last year in Florida a black woman gets 20 years for firing a warning shot at her estranged husband who was violating his restraining order. She pleaded no contest...what's your point? The husband of Marissa Alexander said Wednesday it was her violent nature, not his, that ultimately landed her 20 years in prison. "I never put my hands on Marissa Alexander," said 36-year-old Rico Gray, accompanied by his 12-year-old son when he spoke with the media Wednesday at the State Attorney's Office in Jacksonville. Gray explained how the events unfolded in the August 2010 shooting and its mandatory sentencing Friday that have drawn national attention since the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case. He said it was Alexander, 31, who first began punching him after he confronted her about some text messages she had sent to her ex-husband. Listen: Rico Gray's 911 call the night of the incident Listen: Rico Gray's second 911 call Gray said he put his hands up in defense "buying time" for his two sons to gather their belongings so he could take them and leave. But when he made the remark that their newborn baby must be fathered by her ex-husband, he said she immediately stopped. "She said, 'I got something for your — —,' and walked away," Gray said. "I knew exactly what she was going to do." Gray said she went to the garage, to her truck, to get her gun and then returned back inside the home. He said the garage door that she claimed was inoperable worked for him earlier that morning and later that day with no trouble. "When she came back inside, the first thing I saw was her putting one [a bullet] in the chamber," he said. Gray said by the time his kids had come to his side to leave, she had the gun pointed at him. "As soon as I took my eyes off Marissa, that's when I heard the gunshot," Gray said. He said he never looked back, grabbing the children and running out of the house and down the street. Alexander was charged with three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. A judge denied her immunity in a Stand Your Ground hearing in 2011. In March a jury took just 12 minutes to find her guilty. Because of Florida's "10-20-Life" statutes, she was sentenced to the mandatory term of 20 years. During the news conference, State Attorney Angela Corey addressed U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown's accusations that race was a factor in the case. Corey said Brown's statement that no blacks have ever had the benefit of immunity is completely false. Alexander has maintained her innocence, saying she was trapped and had no choice but to fire a "warning shot" at an abusive husband. Gray said he lied during an initial deposition when he said he had been the aggressor because the couple had settled their differences and gotten back together. He said he didn't want to see his wife go to prison. It was after Alexander assaulted him again less than five months later that he decided to no longer support her. She pleaded no contest to domestic battery in that incident and was sentenced to time served. Gray has been arrested twice in Duval County on domestic abuse charges, one resulting in a conviction and a sentence of probation. Alexander also had filed an injunction for protection against Gray. They filed for a divorce last month. Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-05-16/story/marissa-alexanders-husband-says-it-was-her-violent-nature-led-shooting#ixzz2Yz6f41Oj I also am curious why you posted this here? Are you trying to imply that he deserves jail time because this woman got 20 years? | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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kidleaderr
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
On July 14 2013 11:42 FrankWalls wrote: so if you get mugged all by yourself with nobody around then you have to let yourself get maimed/robbed/killed, ok man No, by his rule, you're allowed to shoot the first mugger.. but if you're mugged a second time, you're only allowed to shoot if you can prove the mugger is unarmed. Otherwise, you're obligated to give the mugger all your belongings and the keys to your house and car the second time around - also, the mugger is allowed to kill you without you defending yourself if you can't get a person to sign off and promise to witness you shoot him. Makes perfect sense. | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On July 14 2013 11:55 kidleaderr wrote: "if george zimmerman was black there would have never been a crime". fucking lol. What's funny is that people say if he was black he would have been arrested immediately, even though the reality is that if he was black he never would have been arrested at all. | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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AstroPegnuin
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On July 14 2013 11:50 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Civil suits mentioned. I guarantee you there will be a civil suit. A civil suit is not constrained by criminal cases, as OJ so amply demonstrated. And wrongful death is a lot easier to obtain than a guilty verdict, regardless of self defense laws and lack of direct witnesses. Edited to add: As explained to me by a police officer (and I live in Florida) during a class in college, before Stand Your Ground was even floated - "The thing I should see if you are going to state self defense is only front entry wounds, and you doing CPR on the corpse when I arrive on the scene." | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On July 14 2013 11:57 kmillz wrote: What's funny is that people say if he was black he would have been arrested immediately, even though the reality is that if he was black he never would have been arrested at all. If he was black he wouldn't be out patrolling the streets trying to profile black youths and acting vigilante. | ||
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ConGee
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West: "I'd like to keep my BAR license for a few more years." | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
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