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Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 163
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m4inbrain
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dotHead
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soon.Cloak
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
It's like cross examining a fucking sloth. Hello, sloth, did you or did you not hang out in a tree yesterday? "Youuu alreadyy ax me i put a rush on the treeeee." | ||
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Kaitlin
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:13 -Kaiser- wrote: This retarded girl is going to be the reason the prosecution loses this case. The prosecution not having a case will be the reason the prosecution loses this case. | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
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dotHead
United States233 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:15 Klipsys wrote: cracker isn't a racist term because no one would ever get offended by being called a snack food And fag isn't offensive because it's a bundle of sticks. Sir | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:14 Kaitlin wrote: Is it odd for the Judge to respond "No" when asked if the attorneys can approach ? Not really. Crotchety judges who think they know everything often refuse side bars. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + A teenage friend of Trayvon Martin was forced to admit today in the George Zimmerman murder trial that she did not write a letter that was sent to Martin's mother describing what she allegedly heard on a phone call with Martin moments before he was shot. In a painfully embarassing moment, Rachel Jeantel was asked to read the letter out loud in court. "Are you able to read that at all?" defense attorney Don West asked. Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive." It sent a hush through the packed courtroom. Jeantel, 19, was unable to read any of the letter save for her name. Source. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:04 jeremycafe wrote: Zimmerman has not taken the stand. No, it can't be ignored. But this isn't a guilty until proven innocent case. Unless they can know for sure the story they are telling is true, which they are filled with false statements, there is reasonable doubt they are telling the true story or actually know what happened. They have to prove intent to murder. Nothing has. I'm talking about evidence as presented. All testimony's, including Zimmerman's, shows levels on inconsistency. Ignoring Zimmerman's inconsistency but exaggerating the witnesses' testimonies is dishonest. Trip found their statements to be convincing enough and hence he sees those facts and finds Zimmerman guilty, you say they're liars not to be trusted and hence you believe Zimmerman is innocent just. You're choosing to ignore witness testimony that goes against your preconceived opinion. Some people believe that no blood on the ground, no DNA marks on Travyon, and Zimmerman not actually searching for a gun proves that Zimmerman was not actually scared for his life. The witness testimonies support that claim. You wanting to say that the lack of DNA marks, the lack of blood marks, and Zimmerman's false statements being irrelevant is you ignoring evidence. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:16 dotHead wrote: And fag isn't offensive because it's a bundle of sticks. Sir Most american's use the phrase Gypped all the time when they feel cheated not realizing it's a racial slur against gypsies. They don't say it maliciously, nor was Trayvon using the term cracker maliciously. However, they're both "racist" terms, but cracker holds a lot less historical burden on it than either "nigger" or "faggot." | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:24 Thieving Magpie wrote: Most american's use the phrase Gypped all the time when they feel cheated not realizing it's a racial slur against gypsies. They don't say it maliciously, nor was Trayvon using the term cracker maliciously. However, they're both "racist" terms, but cracker holds a lot less historical burden on it than either "nigger" or "faggot." Well, cracker is a term of disrespect / disdain for a white person. | ||
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las91
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Kaitlin
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:20 xDaunt wrote: Woah, I some how missed this: + Show Spoiler + A teenage friend of Trayvon Martin was forced to admit today in the George Zimmerman murder trial that she did not write a letter that was sent to Martin's mother describing what she allegedly heard on a phone call with Martin moments before he was shot. In a painfully embarassing moment, Rachel Jeantel was asked to read the letter out loud in court. "Are you able to read that at all?" defense attorney Don West asked. Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive." It sent a hush through the packed courtroom. Jeantel, 19, was unable to read any of the letter save for her name. Source. that's hilarious... | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:26 Kaitlin wrote: Well, cracker is a term of disrespect / disdain for a white person. Yes... which is why I said 'they're both "racist" terms." The difference is historical context. Because whites were not a brutalized people in the US with a historical history of being oppressed specifically for being white, then being accused of having white skin does not have same type of negative connotation that accusing someone of having black skin has. It is more a backlash and an attempt to create an equalized state wherein blacks who feel oppressed attempt to balance the power dynamics by treating whites equally to how they perceived they are being treated. So while it is racist, it's also about as much a slur as saying "all Nazis are evil," which, even though its a racial slur, does not feel as hateful as saying all "Africans are evil" or "all Jews are evil." Historical context is the framework that reveals why some racist slurs are worse than others. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:33 Kaitlin wrote: It's not a matter of best witness, but she's the "only" witness who can provide the evidence the prosecution is counting on. In fact, one might argue, the evidence is manufactured, such as "Get off, get off". Having said that, she may have done more harm than good by inserting the cracker / nigger stuff. I honestly believe her, but I feel that the culture difference between her and the Jury will bring out their racial biases too much for her testimony to help the state in the level they want it to  | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On June 27 2013 23:38 Thieving Magpie wrote: I honestly believe her, but I feel that the culture difference between her and the Jury will bring out their racial biases too much for her testimony to help the state in the level they want it to Which part of her testimony do you believe ? What she is saying today or what she said during the previous deposition / interviews ? | ||
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PJFrylar
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