EPTbut seriously this would be awesome, both in the sense of a scientific achievement, and also in awesomenessityx2.
Scientists making attempt to Clone a Woolly Mammoth - Page…
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
but seriously this would be awesome, both in the sense of a scientific achievement, and also in awesomenessityx2. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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Goobus
Hong Kong587 Posts
For those of you who say it's not impressive, it really is - they have to repair the damaged parts of the DNA, which is really fragile and most likely in really bad condition due to its age. How they will repair the DNA is probably by replacing it with similar sequences in elephant DNA or such. It's a pretty big feat to clone an extinct mammal from thousands of years ago. | ||
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Goobus
Hong Kong587 Posts
For those of you who say it's not impressive, it really is - they have to repair the damaged parts of the DNA, which is really fragile and most likely in really bad condition due to its age. How they will repair the DNA is probably by replacing it with similar sequences in elephant DNA or such. It's a pretty big feat to clone an extinct mammal from thousands of years ago. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On March 15 2012 22:14 Plexa wrote: Screw ethics, I want to see mammoths in my lifetime It's so fluffy I'm gonna die ! Source : YouTube | ||
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Rockztar
Denmark210 Posts
Please mess up and create an ultralisk, please mess up and create an ultralisk, please mess up and create an ultralisk... | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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TheToaster
United States280 Posts
IMO, biology has always been a study revolving around the human body. Sure, there are tons of great things to learn about other species, but that knowledge should in turn help us advance our own biological functions. I'm talking medicine, cures for diseases, and all that jazz. After that, THEN would be the time to start cloning up species that really have no point to being alive. In my eyes they are cloning a mammoth for the sake of cloning a mammoth, which is pointless. If someone could explain otherwise, please do. Personally I love physics. Consider this analogy, cloning a mammoth would be like a physicist perfecting the potato launcher instead of working on fundamentals like the Standard Model. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:31 JiYan wrote: quick question: what will they do with it if they are successful? pack it up in a zoo and tour around the world with a sign hanging around its neck "give me money" | ||
Aelip
Denmark321 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:30 TheToaster wrote: For a while, I've stated that the field of biology needs to get it's priorities straight. First off, we don't even fully comprehend all the enigmas of human DNA, let alone a mammoth's. There are literally thousands of gene sequences that have unknown functions in terms of protein synthesis. IMO, biology has always been a study revolving around the human body. Sure, there are tons of great things to learn about other species, but that knowledge should in turn help us advance our own biological functions. I'm talking medicine, cures for diseases, and all that jazz. After that, THEN would be the time to start cloning up species that really have no point to being alive. In my eyes they are cloning a mammoth for the sake of cloning a mammoth, which is pointless. If someone could explain otherwise, please do. Personally I love physics. Consider this analogy, cloning a mammoth would be like a physicist perfecting the potato launcher instead of working on fundamentals like the Standard Model. I'm sorry, but science doesn't have to be about improving our lives alone. Science is gaining new knowledge, and cloning a mammoth would be a huge feat in both finding out what we're capable of and finding out more about the species. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote: pack it up in a zoo and tour around the world with a sign hanging around its neck "give me money" To fund the sabertooth tiger project, ofc. | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On March 18 2012 04:16 askTeivospy wrote: Do you have any background in genetics or do you watch movies and listen to the grapevine to get your information? There are other aspects to getting a viable animal than just the genes, which you can't just replace with random animal genes and expect everything to go well. also lol at the phrase "sufficient modelling" My post was refuting the idea that it would be impossible to create healthy mammoths starting with damaged DNA. I used the Jurassic Park frog-raptor as an accessible example, though in reality you would never use frogs to fix creatures much more closely related to birds and even with the closest living relatives there are likely to be too many holes and differences to actually make raptors. The examples I gave of inserting genes from random species without harm are ones that are easily found in the press, therefore the average TL reader can find non-paywall articles written for laypeople about them. Would you have preferred an in-depth post explaining each choice of example, each example in depth, and how each compares to the mammoth task in hand? Or one that delves into the technical detail of what can currently be done, how, and what would need to be done in this project to maximise the chances of success. I believe that the only obvious problem I failed to mention is the accelerated aging and arthritis suffered by some clones. I did not intend to suggest that random animals could or should be used for major repair work, but that modelling could be used to find places where elephant DNA can fill in the blanks well enough and that using genes from distantly related species is not necessarily deleterious. Sufficient modelling is a cop-out because sufficient is undefined, but for me to define it with my current state of knowledge of this project would make me a liar. My sources of knowledge are a couple of courses of genetics, a semester long course on bioinformatics, and journal articles which I guess constitute a grapevine of sorts. This is an area of interest for me rather than a primary focus. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On March 18 2012 06:31 JiYan wrote: quick question: what will they do with it if they are successful? try to breed it. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
Ice Age Park, Mammoth Steak, New medicine discoveries, Bigger Zoo, the options are endless. | ||
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Benjamin80
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FrodoAndTheSlobStix
United States158 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
On March 18 2012 12:19 Benjamin80 wrote: If they can do this to a mammoth woulnt it be possible to do it with dinosaurs also like in Jurassic park? If they had samples in tact enough, I'd assume so. | ||
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TehPrime
United States180 Posts
On March 18 2012 12:56 Mohdoo wrote: If they had samples in tact enough, I'd assume so. Which it means it will most likely never happen until we find an intact bone marrows of dinosaurs. | ||
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OniGami
Japan140 Posts
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