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SeventhPride
712 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:43 Zzoram wrote: DOTA2 will be free, it simply has to be given the competitive environment. TF2 going F2P was obviously Valve testing out their F2P system and ideas for how to monetize DOTA2. Oh really? WOOHOO, hell yeah I am going to play it | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:33 Tuthur wrote: You can say anything you want, LoL isn't an esport in my book, it's a casual game that doesn't take any individual skill to be played. That's the exact reason why it's booming in popularity, because people like easy things nowadays. Your bias is blinding your view. LoL is easier, but for you to judge a game solely on that, is simply silly. Let's go back a few years, where SC2 has just been announced and over the next year, we will receive scattered reports about the development of SC2: Wings of Liberty. We find out about automine, smartcast, etc. You will find a community divided over the fact that this new game, Sc2, is easier than its predecessor, BW. Wait until LoL dies, and it's successor seems more casual, their community will do the same exact thing. The point is that the game you follow right now, the same discussions occurred in large numbers. LoL is fun to a lot of people, and while I prefer DOTA, I realize LoL is a fun game, and it's not terrible to watch. Perhaps Sc2 is the best spectator sport, but when Blizzard takes money from tournaments, require license and fees, and refuses to add key features, you can expect a game like LoL who has money pouring into it to takeover. Kotaku isn't a reliable source, but if you say LoL isn't very popular, you are in extreme denial. | ||
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stonetalon
Netherlands482 Posts
gaming and esports are really going to fall apart like this. User was warned for this post | ||
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Thug[ro]
Romania340 Posts
But enjoy it while you can, DOTA 2 is coming soon so it will replace this shitty game no offense. User was warned for this post | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
Blizzard wants Blizzard DOTA to be the new DOTA, despite putting even less effort into that than they put into SC2 Battle.net. Blizzard is going to ruin SC2 and DOTA2 esports because the greedy suits running them have no idea how the market has changed, and that their foolish money grabs are actually going to cost them money. | ||
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:44 DeepBlu2 wrote: Your bias is blinding your view. LoL is easier, but for you to judge a game solely on that, is simply silly. Let's go back a few years, where SC2 has just been announced and over the next year, we will receive scattered reports about the development of SC2: Wings of Liberty. We find out about automine, smartcast, etc. You will find a community divided over the fact that this new game, Sc2, is easier than its predecessor, BW. Wait until LoL dies, and it's successor seems more casual, their community will do the same exact thing. The point is that the game you follow right now, the same discussions occurred in large numbers. LoL is fun to a lot of people, and while I prefer DOTA, I realize LoL is a fun game, and it's not terrible to watch. Perhaps Sc2 is the best spectator sport, but when Blizzard takes money from tournaments, require license and fees, and refuses to add key features, you can expect a game like LoL who has money pouring into it to takeover. Kotaku isn't a reliable source, but if you say LoL isn't very popular, you are in extreme denial. QFT. As much as I like sc2, elitist who thinks a game shouldn't be called a esport just because it is easy should look at brood war and sc2 and realise sc2 shouldn't be called a esport too. its stupid, there is no such thing as "oh it got to be this difficult to be called esports" rule. | ||
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sparC
Germany162 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:09 MethodSC wrote: It truly is the age of casuals... =/ pretty much this =( | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
It isn't just learning what is what, what works, what doesn't, etc, etc, etc. It is about working together and playing off one another. That adds a layer of complexity that just doesn't exist in SC2 and probably never will. But if it is such a noob casual easy game, feel free to jump over and steal that 2 million dollar prize. Must be a steal right? It is so easy. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:45 Zzoram wrote: Also, DOTA2 is going to have trouble because Blizzard is attacking it in court. Blizzard wants Blizzard DOTA to be the new DOTA, despite putting even less effort into that than they put into SC2 Battle.net. Blizzard is going to ruin SC2 and DOTA2 esports because the greedy suits running them have no idea how the market has changed, and that their foolish money grabs are actually going to cost them money. Again someone is misinformed. Blizzard is only trying to block valve from copy writing the DOTA name | ||
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:45 Zzoram wrote: Also, DOTA2 is going to have trouble because Blizzard is attacking it in court. Blizzard wants Blizzard DOTA to be the new DOTA, despite putting even less effort into that than they put into SC2 Battle.net. Blizzard is going to ruin SC2 and DOTA2 esports because the greedy suits running them have no idea how the market has changed, and that their foolish money grabs are actually going to cost them money. I think its just the name not the game itself, they can just change the name if its so much trouble actually | ||
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1oo
Portugal876 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:45 stonetalon wrote: this is just proof that een in korea people are getting more and more retarded as the years go by.....you have to be completely braindead to ejoy such a skilless joke of a game as lol is. gaming and esports are really going to fall apart like this. just wow, the amount of people like this in here is making my respect for team liquid drop really fast. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:41 Zzoram wrote: DOTA2 is a prettier game to look at than LoL, the auto observer AI is incredible, and it's a more balanced and higher skill game. It just needs to come out, every day it's not out is another day it falls behind LoL. DotA 2 is in all honesty the only MOBA that has a chance of competing with LoL. The whole game of LoL is designed around accessibility. That doesn't really mean that the skill ceiling is low at all, it's just very easy for new players to get into. It is able to draw a very large audience that way, especially with Riot supporting the E-sports side. And as far as tournaments go, the game is still young and the best playstyle doesn't really exist. IEM Hannover has shown us that unpredictable bans/picks and versatility in your comps are way more important. And thus, especially in the games with M5 (the eventual winner of IEM Hannover), the games were exciting from beginning to end. No boring farm phases. Which reminded me off DotA's constant ganks and plays. I tried HoN once, and couldn't make out anything. The graphic style is just abysmal. DotA 2 is a lot clearer on that. Along with LAN mode, good replay and spectator possibilities and possibly Valve pushing E-sports DotA 2 could be a very good candidate to take on LoL. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:46 Corrosive wrote: Again someone is misinformed. Blizzard is only trying to block valve from copy writing the DOTA name If Blizzard wins the name, they'll force Valve to change the name of DOTA2 or else pay Blizzard money. Valve will have to redesign a bunch of DOTA2 to avoid infringement, further delaying it and giving LoL an even bigger lead. Blizzard DOTA will still be the worst MOBA even if they steal the name DOTA2. | ||
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FilthyLucre
Germany108 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:41 Zzoram wrote: DOTA2 is a prettier game to look at than LoL, the auto observer AI is incredible, and it's a more balanced and higher skill game. It just needs to come out, every day it's not out is another day it falls behind LoL. True. And ppl are actually playing LoL, because its much eaiser not to learn anything or gain skill, unlike in Dota. But in each realm there are ppl, who are better than the others, even in potatoes peeling. Thats the key. | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=142288 the situation is quite the opposite for lol also, http://gametrics.com/ lol is doing strong on number 2. | ||
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:48 Zzoram wrote: Blizzard is not trying to get the name for themselves. They are trying to make it stay the way it is now. Not owned by anyone. The problem is if Valve wins the name, Blizzard may get sued over Blizzard Dota, which is why they are trying to stop Valve from trademarking it.If Blizzard wins the name, they'll force Valve to change the name of DOTA2 or else pay Blizzard money. Valve will have to redesign a bunch of DOTA2 to avoid infringement, further delaying it and giving LoL an even bigger lead. Blizzard DOTA will still be the worst MOBA even if they steal the name DOTA2. Edit: this is offtopic :< | ||
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Bashy
63 Posts
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
I'm happy to see the game thrive, though I think DOTA2 is going to supplant it if DOTA2 is also F2P | ||
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Kerotan89
United Kingdom51 Posts
The sad thing is the majority of people posting 'loleasy game' here probably arent even rated over 1000 in ranked games, yet its suppoesdly an easygame? The game is easy to get into and learn plus its free, thats why it is the most popular game going atm (Minor WoW) But it still takes quite a bit of skill and knowledge invested into the game to be good, not to mention you have to coordinate with four other people. | ||
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