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EDIT: I requested a topic title change becuase its not free anymore only in some countries! you can see the list of countries at the bottom
Hello there fellow Liquidians!
As the title states, in some countries Grooveshark isn't free anymore. As Spotify isn't global (yet?), this was the most used alternative for many people. It was free, it's database was really good.
Some days ago was a really nice topic opened, with progamer's Grooveshark playlist and I started listening to all of them, but today when I tried to access it the following message appeared:
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I know 4$ isn't much, but the most cool part about grooveshark was cearly that it was free!
I tried to search the web about this whole issue, but there's not much info about it yet. All I could find on reddit is that at the moment Ireland, Finland and Romania is restricted(and ofcourse Germany).
In Ireland and Romania they ask you to pay 4$, while in Finald it's only 2$. This seems like really strange for me. Why does the ammount needed to be paid differ in these 3 countries.
Did anyone notice this ? Because I also saw that some finnish guys posted they still don't need to pay.
Also please let's try to discuss things normally, I know aswell that 4$ a month isn't much so no need to tell us to pay.And I'm curious how do they determine in what country is Grooveshark restricted and why ?
And if you know any kind of alternatives please Post it here. All I could find till now is the Moonplayer.
Link to the reddit thread: LINK
List of countries where Grooveshark is not free anymore : - Finland
- Germany (not even accessible)
- Ireland
- Romania
- Russia
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Hm.... bad news if this is actually going through, I'm glad I chose spotify ^_^
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Should change the title to note that it may be pay only in your country, still works fine in the states.
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The Internet is seemingly delving deeper and deeper into its Dark Ages...
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On February 13 2012 06:03 Belgo wrote:
Should change the title to note that it may be pay only in your country, still works fine in the states.
Yes, I realized that will PM a mod to change it.
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Oh, this isn't worldwide. Phew.
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The different cost per country is because of the market value that record companies attribute to the average consumer in that region. Don't worry about though, the record companies know what's best for us.
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Yeah, I'm in California and it still works perfectly fine for me, hopefully that won't change anytime soon 
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I'm finnish and it works perfectly fine for me.
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On February 13 2012 06:07 Jormundr wrote:
The different cost per country is because of the market value that record companies attribute to the average consumer in that region. Don't worry about though, the record companies know what's best for us.
Yes but it's kinda wierd for me that Romania has to pay 4$ and Finland only 2$. Ofcourse it's not a huge difference but I could imagine this if Finland pays 4 and Romania 2 looking at the financial situation of the citizens in the 2 countries.
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OMG music doesn't just magically appear?
I can't believe someone wants money for providing a service.
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On February 13 2012 06:08 Ryndika wrote:
Is this only for logged in and making playlists?
I can't even listen to any kind of music
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Oh man that really sucks for others. I been enjoying grooveshark and loving other peoples playlists.
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thank god its still free in Canada ^^
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So when is this going on? I don't know any finn who has problems with grooveshark. You sure Finland is on payment list?
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On February 13 2012 06:12 MaverickSC wrote:
thank god its still free in Canada ^^
+1 idk what I would do if I wouldn't be able to listen to my favourite players playlists
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On February 13 2012 06:13 Ryndika wrote:
So when is this going on? I don't know any finn who has problems with grooveshark. You sure Finland is on payment list?
I do have a problem with Grooveshark.
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On February 13 2012 06:13 Ryndika wrote:
So when is this going on? I don't know any finn who has problems with grooveshark. You sure Finland is on payment list?
According to that Reddit topic, there are many finnish guys posting that they need to pay. Some people didn't have this issue right this morning but in the last 2-3 hours some posts appeared about the need of a payment in order to acces Grooveshark
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I find it weird that people bitch about 4 dollars. Im using spotify but i just pay 99SEK(12/13 bucks or something) every month and get it unlimited and on my mobile phone too. Its very worth it.
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still free in Germany
oh wait! (yes I know I still can access it :D )
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On February 13 2012 06:15 aderum wrote:
I find it weird that people bitch about 4 dollars. Im using spotify but i just pay 99SEK(12/13 bucks or something) every month and get it unlimited and on my mobile phone too. Its very worth it.
Well i guarantee you 99% of the people who use it, use it because its free. As soon as thats taken away why not go to another site thats just as good? Last.FM is an option as well as spotify. I don't think anybody is really "bitching" about it more or less interested why Finland pays 4$ and Romania 2$.
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I'm relieved that it's still free atm in the United States, by I feel bad for those in countries where they will start being charged. If you guys can afford the minimal fee per month, it would be nice if you could pay for it. If it went to $4 a month in the US I'd heavily consider paying for it as it's a great service and has been so useful for me so far.
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I Wonder if they will ever engage this worldwide
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Grooveshark is a great service, and its being free only enhanced its appeal. It's worth paying money for anyway, especially since you don't have access to Spotify and the like in Europe, but this is bound to have significant impact on consumer numbers. 4 dollars is not much in the grand scheme of things, but when translated into Romanian currency, it may deter customers from spending the extra sum on a luxury they could do without. There's always youtube.
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Grooveshark is not available anymore in Germany  .
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I'm still not exactly sure what Grooveshark is even after wiki. So you can search, upload and stream your music? Kinda like Limewire 2.0 I guess? It sound like their financial problems could be a result of them being sued to hell.
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It's still working for me at least.
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In Germany it's not even accessible anymore :-/...
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Long as they give some $ to the artists whoose songs gets 'airtime' after paying for upkeep and salaries its all good.
If I have to choose, I'll pay 4$ to grooveshark over spotify(tried that crap since beta and it was alright, then the catalouge went to the town pub and lost a game of in the lake. Not to mention the whole facebook crap.)
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this scared me but then it said you didnt have to pay in the states but that sucks for the countries that have to pay
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On February 13 2012 06:23 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
I'm still not exactly sure what Grooveshark is even after wiki. So you can search, upload and stream your music? Kinda like Limewire 2.0 I guess? It sound like their financial problems could be a result of them being sued to hell.
You can use it like youtube for music, except it's easier and faster.
for example something like this MOSTLY misses from youtube http://grooveshark.com/#!/search?q=nujabes.
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There's an extention for Grooveshark in chrome for Germany.
Also, the costs probably depend on the licencing cost that the licence/right institution demands from anyone who uses music, in this case Grooveshark. In Germany that would be GEMA (representing composers, authors and music publisher rights). I would guess that GEMA demands too much so that Grooveshark doesn't even bother opening for the German market.
I guess that Grooveshark can cover their licencing fees/operating costs in Finland with ~2$ per user, while it would require ~4$ to cover all fees occuring in romania per user.
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On February 13 2012 06:16 wBsKillian wrote:
still free in Germany
oh wait! (yes I know I still can access it :D )
WTF? you kidding me? it has been locked/blocked in germany since about 2 weeks.
i'm using a proxy to access grooveshark since then. but it's not free anymore. you don't even have an option to pay. it's just locked.
ps: when ACTA is passed, using grooveshark will maybe be an actual crime........... omfg........................... internet, why you not cool anymore?
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Use Spotify if you can, it's the best music service I've used by far.
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On February 13 2012 07:09 beg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:16 wBsKillian wrote:
still free in Germany
oh wait! (yes I know I still can access it :D ) WTF? you kidding me? it has been locked/blocked in germany since about 2 weeks. i'm using a proxy to access grooveshark since then. but it's not free anymore. you don't even have an option to pay. it's just locked. ps: when ACTA is passed, using grooveshark will maybe be an actual crime........... omfg........................... internet, why you not cool anymore?
there are extensions for chrome/firefox, I use those =)
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i would pay double of that amount to be able to use grooveshark again in germany (without proxy nonsense)
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I believe that the most targeted countries are probably those who have the larger user bases. As for my country, I do not think that many people even know about Grooveshark. So therefore I still have access to this great site. For me it is truly splendid that one can stream almost all kinds of music from the site for free. Very handy indeed.
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I started using simfy after it got blocked in Germany
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Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem paying a tiny monthly fee to use Grooveshark? It's a phenomenal music service. I haven't used spotify yet, so I can't compare who is better.
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On February 13 2012 06:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
The Internet is seemingly delving deeper and deeper into its Dark Ages...
Paying pretty much nothing to get all the music you want is the equivalent of the Dark Ages?
If you are referring to the actual fact that the restriction is only in effect in some countries then check that list again and tell me that you are surprised.
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Works for me and i'm from Romania, as well.
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gogo UK hope they dont charge us for it
sucks for others though 
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Thats a bummer, but $4 isn't bad, and as long as you dont have an account can you still use it? I like to use it for parties and just have people throw in a song or two into the queue so everybody gets to hear what they want.
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I'd love to know the difference between Spotify, Grooveshark, and other music sharing services, and how that prevents some from being used in specific countries.
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God, why do I need to live in Germany at the moment... Nothing is shown on Youtube, grooveshark is closed down, google maps is in the stone-age and cafe's and restaurants rather lobby legislation against free wifi signs than put up a router... I've got a choice where to live in a year, and Germany is just not part of the modern world anymore.
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Music shouldn't be free, the artists should be paid for their work. Best regards, paying spotify customer since day 1.
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On February 13 2012 07:47 Xcobidoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
The Internet is seemingly delving deeper and deeper into its Dark Ages... Paying pretty much nothing to get all the music you want is the equivalent of the Dark Ages? If you are referring to the actual fact that the restriction is only in effect in some countries then check that list again and tell me that you are surprised.
Or he lives in Germany... You can't even pay.
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On February 13 2012 08:06 Ghad wrote:
Music shouldn't be free, the artists should be paid for their work. Best regards, paying spotify customer since day 1.
I agree, but Germany doesn't allow spotify either... Note, it's not just about paying.
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Wouldn't that be that the record companies in germany doesn't get on board with companies like spotify? I can't belive that germany has legislation against streaming?
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On February 13 2012 07:29 wBsKillian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 07:09 beg wrote:On February 13 2012 06:16 wBsKillian wrote:
still free in Germany
oh wait! (yes I know I still can access it :D ) WTF? you kidding me? it has been locked/blocked in germany since about 2 weeks. i'm using a proxy to access grooveshark since then. but it's not free anymore. you don't even have an option to pay. it's just locked. ps: when ACTA is passed, using grooveshark will maybe be an actual crime........... omfg........................... internet, why you not cool anymore? there are extensions for chrome/firefox, I use those =)
yes, those are called "proxies". like i said. you can't access grooveshark from germany since about 2 weeks.
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Meh, still doesn't work in Germany. I would totally pay $4 a month to get Grooveshark back.
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thats just why proxys where invented
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That's weird, if it changes to paid in the US, I'm not even gonna use it anymore. Their random feature is terrible, I think.
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Time to start downloading music again.
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i get the window which requests me to signup & login but it only stops the music, and you can press play again and hear it
is this how they intended it to work? requesting you to signup after each song ends ?
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Works for me. Listening right now. I'm on RDS if that counts
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oh and obviously if you are really into listening on grooveshark you can just go through a proxy and by pass their country-limitation
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On February 13 2012 08:18 heishe wrote:
Meh, still doesn't work in Germany. I would totally pay $4 a month to get Grooveshark back.
That's the GEMA for you
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On February 13 2012 08:06 Ghad wrote:
Music shouldn't be free, the artists should be paid for their work. Best regards, paying spotify customer since day 1.
Most artists get nothing from singles and shit like that.....all that money goes straight into simon cowels back pocket im afraid
Artists get money from the record label, but make most money from live shows and appearances
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The only reason I use Spotify instead of Grooveshark is so that I can have spotify on my iphone. I guess this justifies my choice even more.
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On February 13 2012 06:23 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
I'm still not exactly sure what Grooveshark is even after wiki. So you can search, upload and stream your music? Kinda like Limewire 2.0 I guess? It sound like their financial problems could be a result of them being sued to hell.
They are being sued to hell by the big four, but I thought it was mostly in the US.
It is interesting that the charge in different countries are like they are and especially that it has not yet been DNS-blocked in Denmark. KODA, the RIAA of Denmark, is far more influencial than RIAA!
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Same message appeared to me today, i paid 2$ for a month and i live in Greece.
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Can't say I know anyone who has even heard of this service. That being said, most people I know get all their music through non-commercial copying.
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On February 13 2012 09:24 OptimusYale wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 08:06 Ghad wrote:
Music shouldn't be free, the artists should be paid for their work. Best regards, paying spotify customer since day 1. Most artists get nothing from singles and shit like that.....all that money goes straight into simon cowels back pocket im afraid Artists get money from the record label, but make most money from live shows and appearances
Do you have research to back this up or is it just convenient to say? I'm not so sure what you're saying is true. There is a saying in business that goes something like "I'd rather have one slice out of giant pie than keep a tiny one to myself." Well, maybe that's not the exact phrase, but the meaning is that a band simply can't sell stuff completely by themselves, not just because of a lack of infrastructure but because of marketing as well. These are professional skills worth giving up the tiny pie for. Sell 100 albums and get 100% of the profits, or sell 10,000 and get 10% of the profits, you're still doing better.
Artists make their main money from shows/tshirts/etc: I don't know. Some people say it used to be that the tour promoted the album, and now it's the other way around.
Well, I'm certainly not against services like GrooveShark. If it can't be free, I still think the subscription based access to a giant library of music is a good business model (like Netflix) for our age. The only thing I don't like is that since you can't use the music and movies however you like (on your PMP or whatever), it encourages a kind of disposability of music and movies, which is not good motivation for actual art and you can sort of already see that with American movies and TV shows where the quality of work has dropped way down. If you aren't getting a customer to at least commit to saying 'this is good enough to own' but rather saying 'this was worth my time when I was totally bored,' you are going to get lower quality content. I happened with xbox indie games as well. All you have to do is say 'this is worth a dollar.' There will always be exceptions and people with something to really say, or a real creative force, but they will be drowned in content which only needs to meet a very low bar.
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I wish i had the option to pay for it.
Always used to listen to some great playlists i found there (big thx to minigun!)...
Our GEMA is such a huge bullshit!
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napster used to be free
then it died, like grooveshark will
sorry grooveshark
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That's a really random list of countries.
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On February 13 2012 11:34 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 09:24 OptimusYale wrote:On February 13 2012 08:06 Ghad wrote:
Music shouldn't be free, the artists should be paid for their work. Best regards, paying spotify customer since day 1. Most artists get nothing from singles and shit like that.....all that money goes straight into simon cowels back pocket im afraid Artists get money from the record label, but make most money from live shows and appearances Do you have research to back this up or is it just convenient to say? I'm not so sure what you're saying is true. There is a saying in business that goes something like "I'd rather have one slice out of giant pie than keep a tiny one to myself." Well, maybe that's not the exact phrase, but the meaning is that a band simply can't sell stuff completely by themselves, not just because of a lack of infrastructure but because of marketing as well. These are professional skills worth giving up the tiny pie for. Sell 100 albums and get 100% of the profits, or sell 10,000 and get 10% of the profits, you're still doing better. Artists make their main money from shows/tshirts/etc: I don't know. Some people say it used to be that the tour promoted the album, and now it's the other way around. Well, I'm certainly not against services like GrooveShark. If it can't be free, I still think the subscription based access to a giant library of music is a good business model (like Netflix) for our age. The only thing I don't like is that since you can't use the music and movies however you like (on your PMP or whatever), it encourages a kind of disposability of music and movies, which is not good motivation for actual art and you can sort of already see that with American movies and TV shows where the quality of work has dropped way down. If you aren't getting a customer to at least commit to saying 'this is good enough to own' but rather saying 'this was worth my time when I was totally bored,' you are going to get lower quality content. I happened with xbox indie games as well. All you have to do is say 'this is worth a dollar.' There will always be exceptions and people with something to really say, or a real creative force, but they will be drowned in content which only needs to meet a very low bar.
Good post. Artists may deserve more for their efforts, but that is neither here nor there. Record companies provide a valuable service and they deserve compensation too. Just because you know how to make great music, doesn't mean you can promote and organize events.
I love grooveshark but IDK if I would pay. Too similar to Pandora on PC. If the fee includes mobile services that might be worth it (you have to pay for grooveshark mobile already).
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Still free in america... woot woot <3 grooveshark
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On February 13 2012 11:34 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 09:24 OptimusYale wrote:On February 13 2012 08:06 Ghad wrote:
Music shouldn't be free, the artists should be paid for their work. Best regards, paying spotify customer since day 1. Most artists get nothing from singles and shit like that.....all that money goes straight into simon cowels back pocket im afraid Artists get money from the record label, but make most money from live shows and appearances Do you have research to back this up or is it just convenient to say? I'm not so sure what you're saying is true. There is a saying in business that goes something like "I'd rather have one slice out of giant pie than keep a tiny one to myself." Well, maybe that's not the exact phrase, but the meaning is that a band simply can't sell stuff completely by themselves, not just because of a lack of infrastructure but because of marketing as well. These are professional skills worth giving up the tiny pie for. Sell 100 albums and get 100% of the profits, or sell 10,000 and get 10% of the profits, you're still doing better. Artists make their main money from shows/tshirts/etc: I don't know. Some people say it used to be that the tour promoted the album, and now it's the other way around. Well, I'm certainly not against services like GrooveShark. If it can't be free, I still think the subscription based access to a giant library of music is a good business model (like Netflix) for our age. The only thing I don't like is that since you can't use the music and movies however you like (on your PMP or whatever), it encourages a kind of disposability of music and movies, which is not good motivation for actual art and you can sort of already see that with American movies and TV shows where the quality of work has dropped way down. If you aren't getting a customer to at least commit to saying 'this is good enough to own' but rather saying 'this was worth my time when I was totally bored,' you are going to get lower quality content. I happened with xbox indie games as well. All you have to do is say 'this is worth a dollar.' There will always be exceptions and people with something to really say, or a real creative force, but they will be drowned in content which only needs to meet a very low bar.
there's also distributor fees (Itunes takes 30%) recoupment fees and manager fees (manager fee standard is 20% I think) recoupment fees are the fees the artist has to pay for music video recording studio time etc then that money gets split
for example off a 99c song 29 goes to Itunes the label takes in your scenario 90% of the remaining (plus recoupment fees) 70 the artist would then pay approx 20% to a manager depending on the contract lets say 15% or 1c so on a 99c sale the artist makes 6c (less recoupment fees) then the money would get split among all members if they are in a band. so to be worthwhile the record company would have to be able to increase sales by approx 1166%.
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Works in New Zealand, happy me :D
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On February 13 2012 06:06 Spiffeh wrote:
Oh, this isn't worldwide. Phew.
Yeah, scared me too :/
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It will probably have a fee for every country soon :[
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On February 13 2012 06:14 agtemd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:12 MaverickSC wrote:
thank god its still free in Canada ^^ +1 idk what I would do if I wouldn't be able to listen to my favourite players playlists
Any suggestions for grooveshark public playlists? I just started on it as a result of this thread.
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Grooveshark is nice and all, but whats wrong with youtube playlists? If they force users to pay to listen to music you can find for free, then everyone will just go to youtube.
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hmm maybe if it was $1 and everyone who is already using it pays that, they would be fine, instead of having some pay $4? (i'm sure people would be ok paying $1 per month, but then again, it's still different than being free)
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On February 13 2012 07:09 beg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:16 wBsKillian wrote:
still free in Germany
oh wait! (yes I know I still can access it :D ) WTF? you kidding me? it has been locked/blocked in germany since about 2 weeks. i'm using a proxy to access grooveshark since then. but it's not free anymore. you don't even have an option to pay. it's just locked. ps: when ACTA is passed, using grooveshark will maybe be an actual crime........... omfg........................... internet, why you not cool anymore?
This is what I read:
+ Show Spoiler +They raised the prices at my local grocery store.
So I'm like "fuck that shit! I'll break in through the back door and grab all the stuff I want! You can't stop me!".
When the police arrive, this may actually be seen as a crime. What is this world coming to?
Ungrateful brats... </old man>
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So does anyone have a replacement for german users?
Grooveshark was so good .... tried out simfy and its very annoying and missing out some cool features ... and theres a 20 Hours per month limit for free users (reached it in 2 days) , and iam not even talking about the commercials and "way less music to choose from" ....
T_T i miss grooveshark already
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I'll probably pay, it's worth it for me.
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On February 13 2012 16:22 BenBuford wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 07:09 beg wrote:On February 13 2012 06:16 wBsKillian wrote:
still free in Germany
oh wait! (yes I know I still can access it :D ) WTF? you kidding me? it has been locked/blocked in germany since about 2 weeks. i'm using a proxy to access grooveshark since then. but it's not free anymore. you don't even have an option to pay. it's just locked. ps: when ACTA is passed, using grooveshark will maybe be an actual crime........... omfg........................... internet, why you not cool anymore? This is what I read: + Show Spoiler +They raised the prices at my local grocery store.
So I'm like "fuck that shit! I'll break in through the back door and grab all the stuff I want! You can't stop me!".
When the police arrive, this may actually be seen as a crime. What is this world coming to? Ungrateful brats... </old man>
i would gladly pay for grooveshark, mister.
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Well, it's not quite the same, but I really like 8tracks ( http://www.8tracks.com ). It's basically a website where people make playlists and you can listen to them, I enjoy it. And sometimes I just really need to listen to 'random' music that I am not controlling.
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phew, thought it was worldwide
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On February 13 2012 16:22 BenBuford wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 07:09 beg wrote:On February 13 2012 06:16 wBsKillian wrote:
still free in Germany
oh wait! (yes I know I still can access it :D ) WTF? you kidding me? it has been locked/blocked in germany since about 2 weeks. i'm using a proxy to access grooveshark since then. but it's not free anymore. you don't even have an option to pay. it's just locked. ps: when ACTA is passed, using grooveshark will maybe be an actual crime........... omfg........................... internet, why you not cool anymore? This is what I read: + Show Spoiler +They raised the prices at my local grocery store.
So I'm like "fuck that shit! I'll break in through the back door and grab all the stuff I want! You can't stop me!".
When the police arrive, this may actually be seen as a crime. What is this world coming to? Ungrateful brats... </old man>
It would be more accurate if food could be recreated without cost and you used to get food for free and suddenly didn't.
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4$ is a quite good deal, for such a quality service. i would pay up to 10$ or even 20$ per month if the service is not limited and complete legal. as i am from germany grooveshark is geoblocked for me, so i am unfortunaltely out of the game.
btw: for firefox exist a couple of addons which will proxy your grooveshark requests, and make the service accessible again.
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The main problem with Grooveshark and all the other online radio/playlist thingies is that they don't have any of the music I listen to. It really is difficult for me. None of the albums I like are in the stores either, what do?
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This is probably because of ACTA I guess?
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On February 13 2012 16:26 Onioncookie wrote:
So does anyone have a replacement for german users?
Grooveshark was so good .... tried out simfy and its very annoying and missing out some cool features ... and theres a 20 Hours per month limit for free users (reached it in 2 days) , and iam not even talking about the commercials and "way less music to choose from" ....
T_T i miss grooveshark already
I never used grooveshark so I can't tell you about the difference.
But I am using lastfm.de like 3 years now. If you just want to listen some random music (which you give a general topic by searching for tags or artists) it's a nice place to be
Btw guys you ever knew that you can listen to web radios?
And I can understand that they need to charge you, honestly I guess I would pay some small fee for lastfm.de as well. Like 3 Euros/Month is fine with me if I can listen good music, as much as I want.
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On February 13 2012 17:47 Shikyo wrote:
The main problem with Grooveshark and all the other online radio/playlist thingies is that they don't have any of the music I listen to. It really is difficult for me. None of the albums I like are in the stores either, what do?
Um, so even amazon and itunes don't have the music you listen? Then you should maybe write the artists they should try to actually distribute their music to their fans instead of hiding it in their basement
Edit2: Yea I am half-evil now :3 333 posts ftw.
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WOOT still free in India. Too bad spotify isnt available here yet T_T
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I use a little extension called Stealthy, it's available both on chrome and firefox, it's definitely the simplest way to use proxy you will find. Just click the little icon when you need to proxy something. Works for pretty much anything... Spotify, Pandora, Grooveshark
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On February 13 2012 17:40 kNeddo wrote:4$ is a quite good deal, for such a quality service. i would pay up to 10$ or even 20$ per month if the service is not limited and complete legal. as i am from germany grooveshark is geoblocked for me, so i am unfortunaltely out of the game. btw: for firefox exist a couple of addons which will proxy your grooveshark requests, and make the service accessible again.
care to share the name of that firefox extension?
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real art = spreading an opinion, therefore it should always be free. calling shitty pop music art is retarded. must be shit listening to commercial garbage. diy ftw and down with the music business
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Damn. I just bought earphones this saturday, so I could listen to grooveshark with my phone. I hope this "We never meant to..." is all it's going to be, because luckily the streaming app doesn't seem affected at all.
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The problem with other music sites is ... theres alot less songs ... you could nearly find all songs (remixes , covers , acoustics) @ grooveshark ...
Not just the original one.
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For Germany, Switzerland and Austria, use Simfy.de
Its pretty good so far, most of the stuff Ive wanted to hear, is there.
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On February 13 2012 20:37 kleetzor wrote:
For Germany, Switzerland and Austria, use Simfy.de
Its pretty good so far, most of the stuff Ive wanted to hear, is there.
Well its all about the playlists for me.
Dont want to make new ones. And there are also a lot of good ones on Grooveshark I subscribed to.
I continue to proxy.
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Still free here in the Philippines but I'm thinking that they would be implementing this in other countries as well.
Hmmmm...anymore good suggestions for music streaming?
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This is hilarious, Romania and Russia are like top10 and top1 at pirating. Who cares if it's not free anymore for us )))
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They have to get more money from those countries because the cost of doing business there is higher.
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Fuck this sopa and anti piracy acts.They are ruining the internet.
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On February 13 2012 06:09 BenBuford wrote:
OMG music doesn't just magically appear?
I can't believe someone wants money for providing a service.
Hardcore illegal from Groovesharks side, they do not own any rights to the music they are supplying, they shoudn't be able to demand pay (unlike Spotify which has proper licenses for the music available).
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I love Grooveshark, any way I can donate anyway?
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Hm, I have a spotify unlimited subscription, but Spotify doesn't have kpop so I use grooveshark a lot for that. It seems weird that it would only cost money in some countries, too.
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On February 13 2012 21:17 marttorn wrote:
Hm, I have a spotify unlimited subscription, but Spotify doesn't have kpop so I use grooveshark a lot for that. It seems weird that it would only cost money in some countries, too.
Just download Kpop or rip it from youtube so you can put it in spotify.
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The only reason Grooveshark has a database at all is because they asked their users to illegally upload music to their servers. I have a feeling they won't last much longer.
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It is getting increasingly annoying to live in germany with all that GEMA crap. I can practically not use youtube right now when I'm not using a proxy. Now the same with grooveshark. I'd very much be willing to pay for the situation to be the same as in the US (hulu, grooveshark/pandora/spotify, youtube), but I'm just not able to.
Also if anyone knows about an android app I can still download music with from germany, that would make me a very happy man ;-)
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On February 13 2012 20:56 SySLeif wrote:
They have to get more money from those countries because the cost of doing business there is higher.
Please explain how running an internet website has higher costs if you have users from Romania or Russia.
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On February 13 2012 21:38 Manimal_pro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 20:56 SySLeif wrote:
They have to get more money from those countries because the cost of doing business there is higher. Please explain how running an internet website has higher costs if you have users from Romania or Russia.
Licensing.
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On February 14 2012 00:09 Soap wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 21:38 Manimal_pro wrote:On February 13 2012 20:56 SySLeif wrote:
They have to get more money from those countries because the cost of doing business there is higher. Please explain how running an internet website has higher costs if you have users from Romania or Russia. Licensing.
as far as i know grooveshark doesnt have any license to run their platform, isnt that the reason they are getting sued?
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One of the head guys over at Grooveshark, Pauly Crush was talking about this a couple weeks ago on a local radio show. He basically said that they are being sued constantly, and in order to make a profit they would have to start this.
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Pandora is the most famous one no? Last.fm?
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On February 13 2012 21:27 lolmlg wrote:
The only reason Grooveshark has a database at all is because they asked their users to illegally upload music to their servers. I have a feeling they won't last much longer.
They're getting sued by the 4 biggest record labels so you might be right.
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I doubt it's because they are being sued, its because they realized that their customer base has grown pretty large and just like anything else that blows up, they are going to start charging for it because they know that people will pay for it.... its just economics, I doubt this has much to do with SOPA.
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Would love to be able to pay, Grooveshark is good yo
Sometimes it sucks to be German(tm)...
(See YouTube as well)
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On February 13 2012 20:26 fuzzz wrote:real art = spreading an opinion, therefore it should always be free. calling shitty pop music art is retarded. must be shit listening to commercial garbage. diy ftw and down with the music business
I could write a 10 page essay on why everyone that says this is clueless as hell, but I'll leave it at this:
Nearly every single great piece of art has provided the artist monetary compensation. If you can't make a living through your art you can't practice it full time, hence your art will never be as good as it could be. Not to mention the fact that they just deserve to be paid for producing a quality product, even if it's not a physical object.
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On February 14 2012 03:45 themask4f wrote:
what is grooveshark? :L
You couldn't google that for yourself? It's a music streaming website.
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Will agree with all the " Music should not be free " shit when music will not be so damn expensive.
15€ an album, and 20€ a movie ?
I mean.. really ? Company are expecting us to buy a these price ? :/
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Good job guys. Lets just give free stuff to people who actually have money to purchase it.
Fucking racist cunts.
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You can still proxy into a free country. I think this is mainly because big music companies like universal and sony sue the shit out of grooveshark. Also germany not having grooveshark is for a totally different reason, kinda similiar to why you can't even use half of youtube from germany.
The only positive thing is that the current music industry will probably not survive long term, the way they deal with new inventions (like cloud music streaming services or the internet in general) and their current price policies just shows that they still live in the 20th century and try to farm as long as they still can.
Good thing I switched to pandora though^^
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I don't understand why it costs so much more to operate in those countries that they need to charge users. That really sucks for you guys, grooveshark is legit, I use it every day. If I had to pay for it I'd probably be forced to go back to piracy.
Spotify is alright but it has a much more shallow library than grooveshark.
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Russian Federation6 Posts
Looks like Grooveshark is still free in Russia. Anyway I can listen my playlists.
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Works in Romania right now... at least for me (using ro ip, no proxy/vpn).
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On February 14 2012 04:02 Wyk wrote:
Good job guys. Lets just give free stuff to people who actually have money to purchase it.
Fucking racist cunts.
Umm what? I wish i already had that report button T_T
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On February 13 2012 06:14 agtemd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:12 MaverickSC wrote:
thank god its still free in Canada ^^ +1 idk what I would do if I wouldn't be able to listen to my favourite players playlists
Maybe develop your own taste in music?
I actually already, willingly, pay for grooveshark. It's awesome.
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On February 14 2012 03:49 Skwid1g wrote:
I could write a 10 page essay on why everyone that says this is clueless as hell, but I'll leave it at this:
Nearly every single great piece of art has provided the artist monetary compensation. If you can't make a living through your art you can't practice it full time, hence your art will never be as good as it could be. Not to mention the fact that they just deserve to be paid for producing a quality product, even if it's not a physical object.
Well said.
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On February 14 2012 04:02 Wyk wrote:
Good job guys. Lets just give free stuff to people who actually have money to purchase it.
Fucking racist cunts.
ROFL, best post I have read today. This really doesnt pertain to anything else in this thread and has nothing to do with racism. It did make me laugh very hard though, thanks! ^^
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Grooveshark works just fine for me, using from Finland.
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Its really wierd that for some people in the same country it works and for some not. For example some romanian people mentioned here that Grooveshark works for them, but for me it dosn't. Same ISP....
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The GEMA is the worst thing ever happend to inovation in modern music markets in Germany ....
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On February 14 2012 03:49 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 20:26 fuzzz wrote:real art = spreading an opinion, therefore it should always be free. calling shitty pop music art is retarded. must be shit listening to commercial garbage. diy ftw and down with the music business I could write a 10 page essay on why everyone that says this is clueless as hell, but I'll leave it at this: Nearly every single great piece of art has provided the artist monetary compensation. If you can't make a living through your art you can't practice it full time, hence your art will never be as good as it could be. Not to mention the fact that they just deserve to be paid for producing a quality product, even if it's not a physical object.
Problem being that artists aren't gaining shit from record sales, they make their money of concerts, merchandise etc.
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On February 14 2012 03:49 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 20:26 fuzzz wrote:real art = spreading an opinion, therefore it should always be free. calling shitty pop music art is retarded. must be shit listening to commercial garbage. diy ftw and down with the music business I could write a 10 page essay on why everyone that says this is clueless as hell, but I'll leave it at this: Nearly every single great piece of art has provided the artist monetary compensation. If you can't make a living through your art you can't practice it full time, hence your art will never be as good as it could be. Not to mention the fact that they just deserve to be paid for producing a quality product, even if it's not a physical object.
but you did not mention one
anyways, opinions differ what art is and what not. i own about 20k vinyl records and some old and new printed arts i paid for. i support art and still wont pay for mainstream "art". the difference is you pay the industry in mainstream "arts" not the artist. we could go deaper in the matter what pop culture is, who created it and why it exist but this would be another topic.
i sometimes like to listen to some easy going pop songs, tv show or a move. i live pretty healthy yet still like to sometimes eat some fat burger knowing its "unhealty". sure i have to pay for the burger but i dont care if i could not get any.
therefore i belive with free "art" platforms people like me at least take notice of the "lesser" arts and maybe spread it and be free commercial.
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i dont know whether this has been posted yet, but i have found a solution to the problem.
i live in germany ergo i shouldnt be able to use grooveshark at all. but i downloaded the cocoon plugin for firefox and now it works. cocoon hides your ip adress thus you cannot be identified as german or finnish or whatever. the official website of the plugin is https://getcocoon.com/
you will need to create an account. but other than that the plugin is really simple and easy to install. important to note: works ONLY for firefox.
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Well, interesting way Grooveshark goes for. We will see where this leads to. I hope Grooveshark will not close it's service.
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Lalalaland34490 Posts
I haven't used groove shark before but have heard about it. Does the free version (in places where it is still available) play ads, and does the $4 remove them? I'm just wondering as I pay $10 per month for spotify premium, although that's mainly do I can stream music onto my phone.
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Still free in Sweden thank fuck. I'd imagine if Grooveshark went pay only all Swedish users would go back to Spotify or back to DL'ing mp3's lol.
Firebolt145: Grooveshark got no adds and no fee
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Hey does anyone know soundcloud?
http://soundcloud.com/
I love this website and it is free. It is the perfect site for unkown artist to present their music. There is so much good stuff i love it!!!
If anyone loves electric music, minimal, dubstep (and 2 Pac :D) PM and I give you my soundcloud name then you can explore my favorties
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there are certain ways you can avoid things like the block for germany etc..
but if you use it actively and also download from it i dont think 4€ a month is much.
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Why don't people just roll spotify instead? I'm so happy with Spotify <3
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On February 14 2012 21:56 DwD wrote:
Still free in Sweden thank fuck. I'd imagine if Grooveshark went pay only all Swedish users would go back to Spotify or back to DL'ing mp3's lol.
Firebolt145: Grooveshark got no adds and no fee
Where do they make their money from then?
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Happy to be paying to use spotify which I find to be a great service, never really got into grooveshark for some wierd reason.
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i use a plug-in to listen to grooveshark. it connects via a proxy but then disconnects once your in. so you get the full speed. its not illegal as far as i see here in germany. i dont know about the other contries though.
to me the internet is international and FUCK everyone i was in the internet before GEMA so please get the fuck out of my internet.
btw grooveshark is not fully legit. so save your money and use a plugin. if they are not fully legit you dant have to be either, right?
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On February 14 2012 22:31 Mentalizor wrote:Why don't people just roll spotify instead? I'm so happy with Spotify <3
It requires a Facebook account to sign up and log in.
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On February 16 2012 06:03 Jarskaaja wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 22:31 Mentalizor wrote:Why don't people just roll spotify instead? I'm so happy with Spotify <3 It requires a Facebook account to sign up and log in.
Yeppers.. rather stupid.
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Google Chrome put incognito mode on. Fixed
sry false alarm
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On February 15 2012 01:44 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 21:56 DwD wrote:
Still free in Sweden thank fuck. I'd imagine if Grooveshark went pay only all Swedish users would go back to Spotify or back to DL'ing mp3's lol.
Firebolt145: Grooveshark got no adds and no fee Where do they make their money from then?
There are ads on the homepage, but not 'vocal' commercials in between songs.
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I wonder how this is going to affect SocialMist. Grooveshark integration was one of their key features i believe. Well lets se if it can overtake facebook when it launches.
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On February 14 2012 22:31 Mentalizor wrote:Why don't people just roll spotify instead? I'm so happy with Spotify <3
Its more expensive. Or then you just have to deal with not listening to a song many times, lol, I'd just use youtube instead.
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On February 16 2012 06:03 Jarskaaja wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 22:31 Mentalizor wrote:Why don't people just roll spotify instead? I'm so happy with Spotify <3 It requires a Facebook account to sign up and log in.
So just create an alias facebook account?
Your going to veto a service based on the fact you have to make a facebook account which you don't even have to use?
Seems like a shallow excuse which your using to veil the under-lying reason =/
Spotify to me is the perfect middle-ground of paying absurd prices for CD's or downloading free, illegally.
Does Grooveshark pay the Artists royalties? Anyone know?
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hmmm that will maybe reopen it in germany... we got another site simfy.de which raises 5€/month... 4$ should be a bit cheaper.
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On February 18 2012 20:47 Kiichol wrote:
So just create an alias facebook account?
Your going to veto a service based on the fact you have to make a facebook account which you don't even have to use?
Seems like a shallow excuse which your using to veil the under-lying reason =/
Yes, I am.
You do realize that this is Facebook attempting to take over services to make them require Facebook to use? If your answer to everything is "create a facebook account", eventually Facebook becomes the only log-in system of the internet because there will be no downside for any business to start using a facebook login. This makes Facebook become even worse than Google in terms of privacy: FB will know every service you use and everything you do.
This is a recent change by Spotify that screws over everyone that did not register before facebook was mandatory. There is no reason to REQUIRE facebook because they have their own login system, but Sean Parker, one of Spotify's founders and a major investor in Facebook made this happen. This way Facebook is one step forward for becoming the universal login of the internet.
In the end, Facebook will be able to make money off people that are not interested in the service Facebook is providing but third party services that require a facebook account for no reason.
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awwwwwww
but i dont use groove shrak anymore
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I will never make a Facebook account, I sure hope that doesn't happen Jarskaaja.... =.=;
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Grooveshark is pretty shady. They have music on there that only exists in the p2p market, like fake compilations of b-sides. Spotify may not pay a lot, but atleast they have negotiated with the labels on playing their music.
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On February 19 2012 03:21 fabiano wrote:
I will never make a Facebook account, I sure hope that doesn't happen Jarskaaja.... =.=;
Facebook is the root of all evil, that is not caused through religion :D
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On February 19 2012 03:56 ninini wrote:
Grooveshark is pretty shady. They have music on there that only exists in the p2p market, like fake compilations of b-sides. Spotify may not pay a lot, but atleast they have negotiated with the labels on playing their music.
As long as I'm not capable of using Spotify (facebook requirement) it might as well not exist.
I'm actually paying for a $9/month grooveshark account that lets me use their android app. I wouldn't have any trouble paying 10€/month for spotify but they're not even letting me in.
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Good ol' Germany! Fucking over its citizens wherever it can. First Youtube then Grooveshark.
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It seems Denmark will follow the German example. An investigation against Grooveshark and their potential infringement is being started from "rettighedsalliancen" and the police has forced the telephone operator 3 to DNS-block the use of Grooveshark.com during the investigation.
Seems like it is first step towards placing it on the same national list as thepiratebay.com where all ISPs are forced to block it. The crazy thing about it is that it will still be 100 % legal to use the site through a proxy!
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Is it just me or is grooveshark not working anymore? Just stopped working in the past few hours for me.
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On March 01 2012 13:34 TheGreenMachine wrote:
Is it just me or is grooveshark not working anymore? Just stopped working in the past few hours for me.
https://twitter.com/#!/Grooveshark
Uh oh! The site is temporarily down due to some network issues, but we'll have it back up ASAP. Terribly sorry for the disruption.
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Thank so much trainRiderJ! I was beginning to worry it got taken down in today's crazy age.
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hmm i was listning to grooveshark earlier while streaming...then all the sudden grooveshark went down, and is still down as of now, and just shows a "server not found" message........i wonder if theyre in the process of switching it in my area, i'm in vancouver, canada
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On March 01 2012 13:40 BackTrack wrote:
hmm i was listning to grooveshark earlier while streaming...then all the sudden grooveshark went down, and is still down as of now, and just shows a "server not found" message........i wonder if theyre in the process of switching it in my area, i'm in vancouver, canada
i live in maine, its happening to me too. TT
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Yeah same here
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"google chrome could not find grooveshark"
this is from the U.S. and started a few hours ago
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On March 01 2012 14:13 nemo14 wrote:
"google chrome could not find grooveshark"
this is from the U.S. and started a few hours ago
Ya website is down completely atm.
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Something seems fishy about this.. $4 per month is ALOT to ask for "operating costs" considering their popularity.. I dont know how much in royalties grooveshark actually paid, but this could certainly have been due to a crackdown on copyright laws, the question is, why would grooveshark lie?
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Canadian (West coat) here, grooveshark is simply unable to be connected to over here.
im so sad i literally listened to grooveshark like 5-9 hours a day ;_;
EDIT: my guess is that they cracked down on grooveshark and ordered them to shut down immediately. In a last ditch effort to rake in some money they threw up the "please pay us" thing. They then shut the site down after making some hard cash from people who paid right away, took the money and ran.
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On March 01 2012 14:25 WackaAlpaca wrote:EDIT: my guess is that they cracked down on grooveshark and ordered them to shut down immediately. In a last ditch effort to rake in some money they threw up the "please pay us" thing. They then shut the site down after making some hard cash from people who paid right away, took the money and ran.
That's what I was thinking too..
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Yay! It's back up and running! =D
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On March 01 2012 14:35 LaLLsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 14:25 WackaAlpaca wrote:EDIT: my guess is that they cracked down on grooveshark and ordered them to shut down immediately. In a last ditch effort to rake in some money they threw up the "please pay us" thing. They then shut the site down after making some hard cash from people who paid right away, took the money and ran. That's what I was thinking too..
Mystik wrote:
Yay! It's back up and running! =D
STOP USING GROOVESHARK IT HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY GOVERNMENT. ANYONE WHO USES THE SITE WILL BE RECORDED AND FLAGGED FOR "Piracy Watch" FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS.
THEY ARE WATCHING YOUR DOWNLOADS AND ANYTHING ABOVE 256mb A DAY WILL AUTOMATICALLY PING AN INVESTIGATION INTO YOUR PAST/CURRENT/FUTURE DOWNLOADS.
ABANDON SHIP
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On March 01 2012 14:50 WackaAlpaca wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 14:35 LaLLsc2 wrote:On March 01 2012 14:25 WackaAlpaca wrote:EDIT: my guess is that they cracked down on grooveshark and ordered them to shut down immediately. In a last ditch effort to rake in some money they threw up the "please pay us" thing. They then shut the site down after making some hard cash from people who paid right away, took the money and ran. That's what I was thinking too.. STOP USING GROOVESHARK IT HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY GOVERNMENT. ANYONE WHO USES THE SITE WILL BE RECORDED AND FLAGGED FOR "Piracy Watch" FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS. THEY ARE WATCHING YOUR DOWNLOADS AND ANYTHING ABOVE 256mb A DAY WILL AUTOMATICALLY PING AN INVESTIGATION INTO YOUR PAST/CURRENT/FUTURE DOWNLOADS. ABANDON SHIP
My sarcasm detector is broken, if this is a case of sarcasm I apologise in advance. Just thought I'd say you don't download anything on Grooveshark, you can only stream the music unless you use external programs (afaik). So yeah.
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You don't download them in the traditional sense, rather store them in temporary files.. either way you're in the E-permanent file system permanently.
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blocked in denmark... but there are ways around these things !
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I feel like it's only a matter of time before it's pay for everyone.
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On March 03 2012 12:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I feel like it's only a matter of time before it's pay for everyone.
Its not been converted to a "pay-to-use", the ISP's have been told to block it same way they did with the pirate bay. It's a simple matter to get around it but its still annoying. I really like grooveshark
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People always want things for free, people ad block the streams they watch very regularly. As soon as things which are usually free over the internet start getting charged for, people get up in arms about it. People fight against sopa and acta on the net (which were wrong, I don’t disagree on that), but people think that EVERYTHING on the internet should be free. That music and films and TV series should be available to anyone without any kind of trade taking place. I watch hours of internet streams a week, be it SC2 or LoL or things on You Tube and I can’t complain about adverts because that’s what is keeping all of this available to me. I didn’t get into spotify until they were playing an advert every 3 or 4 songs because that was how they survived, I’ve never had a problem with it.
People need to realise that piracy is a massive problem on the internet, and we don’t have the right to simply watch or listen to things that people have made for free, regardless of whether or not the profits are going to the artist or the meaningless record label who will simply churn the next act out of their factory.
We might not agree with everything that happens in this world, but the people who make these fantastic pieces of media that we all watch and talk about and discuss and debate deserve the right to protect what they have done, and personally, I think that comes above our right to be able to expect these things for nothing.
I’ve probably gone way too far in general with this post but there’s been so much recently about freedom of speech on the internet recently posted on TL, that I just wanted to put my thoughts forward about the issue in general. Yes, I think its brilliant that people rose up in a singular voice and said no to things like SOPA, but on the other side, I know that if I was making original content, be it through a music studio, a film production company or sitting in a basement of a shitty flat, I would want the things that I made to be mine, and for them to be distributed on my terms, and if I wanted to charge people to watch or listen or whatever to my media, that I was able to do so fairly and not have people assume that downloading my creation off the Pirate Bay or Mega Upload or anywhere else for free was fine.
I hope this makes sense to some people.
Peace out TL, your all awesome.
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I subscribed to Rdio a while back and absolutely love it. I was worried about Grooveshark eventually going away so decided that it was worth it (to me) to get onto a service that sounded like they had lasting potential.
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I'm shocked that so many are willing to pay for a service that doesn't pay the artists anything.
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Update: Grooveshark is free in paywall countries again (at least it's free in Finland again), but now they want you to view an advertisement video every few hours. If you paid the money when they asked you to, you will not get the ad video.
On March 04 2012 00:09 holzofenbrot wrote:
I'm shocked that so many are willing to pay for a service that doesn't pay the artists anything.
What options are there? All the good ones (namely Rdio) are United States only. The only ones here in Finland are Spotify and Deezer that both require a Facebook account to use.
I got the $9/month for mobile grooveshark and I'm happy with it as long as it doesn't get shut down. Would love to pay for Spotify but they don't let me sign up without facebook.
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Was scared when I saw the title. I use groove shark all the time. Glad it still works in the America's.
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On February 13 2012 06:14 agtemd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:12 MaverickSC wrote:
thank god its still free in Canada ^^ +1 idk what I would do if I wouldn't be able to listen to my favourite players playlists
You would... pay?
I pay for Spotify Premium, 10 euros a month or something like that which I find cheap for such a great service, it's also an easy way to atleast contribute a tiny bit to my favorite bands.
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On March 06 2012 08:57 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:14 agtemd wrote:On February 13 2012 06:12 MaverickSC wrote:
thank god its still free in Canada ^^ +1 idk what I would do if I wouldn't be able to listen to my favourite players playlists You would... pay? I pay for Spotify Premium, 10 euros a month or something like that which I find cheap for such a great service, it's also an easy way to atleast contribute a tiny bit to my favorite bands.
Spotify Premium is just so much better. Spotify on my phone, every song I'd ever want add-free on my computer. And knowing that my money is actually supporting the artists I'm listening to just makes it so much better to me. And yeah, it's kindda cheap - and legal
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Thank you for suggesting using cocoon, now I can use my grooveshark in Germany again
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Fuck, Norway got hit as well...
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Are you sure I'm using it now....
I think that it's only on your country.
CanadaSoFTW
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Are you sure I'm using it now....
I think that it's only on your country.
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Scared me with the tittle there. Glad its not worldwide,
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Canada still free. Maybe it's to build funds to fight legal battles in those Countries??? I dunno...
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On March 03 2012 12:51 Kelsin wrote:
I subscribed to Rdio a while back and absolutely love it. I was worried about Grooveshark eventually going away so decided that it was worth it (to me) to get onto a service that sounded like they had lasting potential. As have I, it's a great service. Their Mac standalone client is fantastic, and seems to be based off Mac iTunes (which is actually good unlike Windows iTunes) though their Windows client could use a bit of work. There's almost all the music I like on it, and it's only $5 per month. For the amount I use it, that is a huge deal, as I probably listen to it for 6-8 hours a day. For a 30 day month, that's less than 3 cents per hour. During finals I'll probably use it more like 10 hours per day.
I used to use Grooveshark (but only for a little bit) but they seem kinda shady as they essentially sell your info in exchange for album rights, which they don't pay for until the song or album has a huge number of listens. (Source)
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Grooveshark now asks for money when you try to play a song, or you can listen for 4 hours after watching a 30 second commercial.
It literally came into effect today for the U.S., I think.
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On March 28 2012 04:38 holdthephone wrote:
Grooveshark now asks for money when you try to play a song, or you can listen for 4 hours after watching a 30 second commercial.
It literally came into effect today for the U.S., I think.
EU here. It came into effect here a few days ago. I turned off ad block, wathed 1 add, turned on ad block again, and have never had to watch one again
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you could use a proxy from a country not where you live?
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I got this notification when I attempted to play a song today
EDIT: I live in the US btw
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MvReS.png)
It seems that depending on how much you pay changes how much you get for 1 month before another payment, if you choose the 0 Dollar option then it plays you a video add and wont bother you for another 4 hours.
If you choose the 2$ option then it wont bother you for another month
if you choose the 4$ seems to be the same as the 2$
The 6$ option will have no ads on the site for a month, and the 9$ option gives you access to their mobile services as well as no ads for a month.
Seems to me like it's pay or get spammed with ads now; a video ad every 4 hours is going to get annoying; it also seems that adblock users won't be exempt from the this video add either, because its a notification that comes up (stopping your music) and makes you click "play" on a Youtube video, and once it has been playing long enough (you can't just skip to the end of the ad, I tried) you can click a "resume playback" option and continue as normal for another 4 hours.
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On March 28 2012 04:44 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I got this notification when I attempted to play a song today EDIT: I live in the US btw It seems that depending on how much you pay changes how much you get for 1 month before another payment, if you choose the 0 Dollar option then it plays you a video add and wont bother you for another 4 hours. If you choose the 2$ option then it wont bother you for another month if you choose the 4$ seems to be the same as the 2$ The 6$ option will have no ads on the site for a month, and the 9$ option gives you access to their mobile services as well as no ads for a month. Seems to me like it's pay or get spammed with ads now; a video ad every 4 hours is going to get annoying; it also seems that adblock users won't be exempt from the this video add either, because its a notification that comes up (stopping your music) and makes you click "play" on a Youtube video, and once it has been playing long enough (you can't just skip to the end of the ad, I tried) you can click a "resume playback" option and continue as normal for another 4 hours.
There's a firefox extension that removed the old popups that stopped your song.This will probably be handled the same way.
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On March 28 2012 05:39 Kluwn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 04:44 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I got this notification when I attempted to play a song today EDIT: I live in the US btw It seems that depending on how much you pay changes how much you get for 1 month before another payment, if you choose the 0 Dollar option then it plays you a video add and wont bother you for another 4 hours. If you choose the 2$ option then it wont bother you for another month if you choose the 4$ seems to be the same as the 2$ The 6$ option will have no ads on the site for a month, and the 9$ option gives you access to their mobile services as well as no ads for a month. Seems to me like it's pay or get spammed with ads now; a video ad every 4 hours is going to get annoying; it also seems that adblock users won't be exempt from the this video add either, because its a notification that comes up (stopping your music) and makes you click "play" on a Youtube video, and once it has been playing long enough (you can't just skip to the end of the ad, I tried) you can click a "resume playback" option and continue as normal for another 4 hours. There's a firefox extension that removed the old popups that stopped your song.This will probably be handled the same way.
There is also this addon you guys might wanna check out.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/proxmate/
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Single 30 second ad every 4 hours in US? Seems fair to me.
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On March 28 2012 09:16 lost_artz wrote:
Single 30 second ad every 4 hours in US? Seems fair to me.
Yeah, still better then having to pay for 4 hours of music.
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I've been paying $3 a month for Grooveshark for a long time now and I do it because I support it. I understand that it costs money to create the music that I listen to on there and money to host the servers that it streams from. Paying $4 a month for unlimited music is not asking too much. I'll keep paying for it until it gets shutdown when the music labels are done with it.
It's a good service anyone who thinks it's a service when they aren't paying for it it's considered charity because you don't pay them a dime for what they do. I hope others support this kind of unlimited for a monthly cost deal.
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On March 28 2012 09:16 lost_artz wrote:
Single 30 second ad every 4 hours in US? Seems fair to me.
Yeah, for the quality that Grooveshark gives, I honestly don't mind at all watching a 30 second ad every 4 hours. To be honest I wouldn't even mind once an hour, though hopefully they don't get anymore ideas. :p
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On March 28 2012 09:16 lost_artz wrote:
Single 30 second ad every 4 hours in US? Seems fair to me.
lucky. I had to watch a ten minute video,but yeah,it it does seem fair.
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On March 28 2012 04:44 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:I got this notification when I attempted to play a song today EDIT: I live in the US btw It seems that depending on how much you pay changes how much you get for 1 month before another payment, if you choose the 0 Dollar option then it plays you a video add and wont bother you for another 4 hours. If you choose the 2$ option then it wont bother you for another month if you choose the 4$ seems to be the same as the 2$ The 6$ option will have no ads on the site for a month, and the 9$ option gives you access to their mobile services as well as no ads for a month. Seems to me like it's pay or get spammed with ads now; a video ad every 4 hours is going to get annoying; it also seems that adblock users won't be exempt from the this video add either, because its a notification that comes up (stopping your music) and makes you click "play" on a Youtube video, and once it has been playing long enough (you can't just skip to the end of the ad, I tried) you can click a "resume playback" option and continue as normal for another 4 hours.
AHAHAHAAHAHAH 30 seconds every 4 hours is spam now?
WOOOOOOW
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I havent gotten any ads for grooveshark and ive been listening the last couple days
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I don't know about other countries, but at least in Denmark it is no longer possible to acces Grooveshark without a proxyserver.(or atleast i haven't found another way around it).
It says something about it being illegal.
Anyone knows how to get around this?
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It was nice a a free thing, but I wouldn't pay for it because sometimes the songs you had on playlists just disappeared. Like, I had about 500 songs on a list and then one time I went to it and there were only 420. I had no idea which ones were gone either, lol. I'm not sure how it works, but their library changes.
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I've had no issues accessing Grooveshark in Canada. No ads either.
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They've been letting me even close the video after 10 seconds had passed. Seems more than fair for free music, playlists, basically not having to pay for music at all. I'll probably subscribe and give them more money so they can continue being internet superheroes.
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I go on Grooveshark, start a song, video pops up, 10 seconds later I click close video, now I listen to music for 4 hours. It's really hard to find a way of complaining about this.
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I used spotify for a while, but I switched to grooveshark. I found the ads far too invasive.
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I use a proxy to access grooveshark as it's way way better than anything else.
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