EPTEdit: You British have got some crazy slang lol, destroy=Party?
British Couple Kicked out of the US for joking - Page 21
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DreamChaser
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:29 sOda~ wrote: I KNOW!~ i am scared to go outside bcos of terrorist attacks on my street. seems like everyday a plane flies into buildings near me. Holy FUCK. Where do you live where a plane hits a building everyday? That is amazing! Sounds like Cameron needs to retrain the pilots or increase their wages to stop their insanity. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On January 31 2012 19:27 zdfgucker wrote: I enjoyed the article, especially this part: Human to animal? Really? Next time I travel, I'm going to make a tweet about buying some Trojans and drilling some illegal immigrants until I collapse. | ||
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Demidyne
United States110 Posts
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Flanlord
265 Posts
On January 31 2012 19:15 bOneSeven wrote: Now.. seriously guys, paranoia much ? Well, we all talked it over, and voted on it, and decided to kick them out, as a people. I think one of the best things about living here is giggling about insane generalizations made about us, as though we have meaningful individual power. Should they have been kicked out? No. Clearly not, but on some level if you're going to make jokes about doing stuff like that, you need to realize that we, as a country, (get it, because we're all the same person.) have a bad sense of humor, particularly about stuff like this. So, why not skip it? I mean, isn't that on the most basic 'so I'm travelling internationally, what do I need to do/not do' lists? On January 31 2012 19:15 bOneSeven wrote:I for one believe that is better to, well firstly change foreign policy on US, because most of it are causes to hate towards America ( as detailed by the CIA , and 3 more US Generals as well ), then after a while when water cools, loose all the ridiculuos laws of paranoia and let the people live free and without fear of not saying the "wrong" words or whatever. What would happen ? Without this hate for America, terrorist acts would only be commited by seriously sick people ( clinicly proven ), and most of them are spotted before they might do any damage... This is very presumptuous the way I read it, but would love some clarification. What exactly about our foreign policy would you change that would result in 'water cooling' with... people who hate us? I would never defend our foreign policy as a block of legislation/regulation/policy, but sweeping idealistic 'take it easy man' isn't actually very useful, and as much as many of our citizens (myself included) would love a 'chillax man, don't worry about it.' stance, it just isn't going to happen in the near future. Also - your final paragraph (again the way I read it - please correct me if I'm wrong) sounded like you think a person wouldn't have to be a 'clinically proven' sick person to commit a serious terrorist act. Wh... Like... really? Are you suggesting that our current foreign policy is legitimate justification for terrorist attacks? (Although again, getting fairly off-topic.) TLDR - No, they shouldn't have been kicked out. No, not every person in the United States was involved in removing them. This has been fairly standard 'hey, America does stupid shit regarding _____' for over a decade. It really shouldn't be surprising. | ||
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RetroAspect
Belgium219 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:29 DreamChaser wrote: I dunno i don't say im going to England and say " I will destroy England" or I will dig up "Queen Elizabeth!" it seems stupid to be detained but why would they even bother posting something like that on twitter or FB a few days before? In my opinion, this and many other "why did they post it" and "what if" arguments are as useless as nipples on a breastplate(see what i did there!) . It is besides the point. The point is the absurdism, paranoia and utter arrogance of the US customs in this case(and many, many others like this) What is even more absurd, etc.. are the americans here defending or minimizing the issue, just because they feel personally attacked by all the negative criticisms. Just think about this: How would you react to such news if you weren't from USA but say, an EU country? How would you perceive this news? | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:47 RetroAspect wrote: In my opinion, this and many other "why did they post it" and "what if" arguments are as useless as nipples on a breastplate(see what i did there!) . It is besides the point. The point is the absurdism, paranoia and utter arrogance of the US customs in this case(and many, many others like this) What is even more absurd, etc.. are the americans here defending or minimizing the issue, just because they feel personally attacked by all the negative criticisms. Just think about this: How would you react to such news if you weren't from USA but say, an EU country? How would you perceive this news? I did change my quote to this after On February 01 2012 04:36 DreamChaser wrote: This is stupid all the European communities are getting up in arms because its a Brit couple. There have been many cases where American born Muslims/Middle Eastern descent people are asked to get off the airplane because of 9/11. I dont see why we don't talk about that if we want to talk about absurd airport security. Edit: You British have got some crazy slang lol, destroy=Party? But it doesn't just happen to foreigners it happens to American's at home. Its not the first and its surly not the last time we will hear this type of news. I won't say im proud of this but airport security is crazy and i acknowledged it, i always tense up whenever i'm leaving JFK (Airport near NYC) i always feel like someone is going to pull me off the line and interrogate me. But that doesn't keep me from flying as long as i know i didn't do anything stupid i wont get pulled off for anything. | ||
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LuckyCharms45
United States37 Posts
Sure, sending them back may have sucked, and no one wants to have their vacation cut short like that, but lets be honest here, isn't it better to stay constantly vigilant and to approach every case as though it were a serious threat? I, for one, am happy that my government goes to such extreme lengths to keep its citizens safe. And if it means I have to sacrifice posting half-moronic things on twitter, so be it. Oh, and to those of you claiming it was a violation of the tourists first amendment rights, the Bill of Rights applies to United States citizens. If you are visiting a county, treat it with respect. Do not expect the same rights as those who were born there or went through the process to gain citizenship. If the two tourists were dual citizens then I apologize, but from my understanding they were not. | ||
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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acker
United States2958 Posts
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
This is a case of the security people covering their asses just in case that was not a joke, but a real threat. There have been many organizations that declare that they are going to attack a place before they do it, you just don't know when. White knighting their sense of humor and that they were quoting a show does not matter. The security people won't look at it as a joke because of the manner it was phrased in. Was it extreme? Yes....Did it suck for the couple to be deported? Yes....Was it the couples fault that they got deported? Yes...Was it the security guys fault for being protective? No, they were just doing their job. | ||
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Mordanis
United States893 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:50 LuckyCharms45 wrote: I believe the phrase "Better safe then sorry" comes to mind here. Sure, sending them back may have sucked, and no one wants to have their vacation cut short like that, but lets be honest here, isn't it better to stay constantly vigilant and to approach every case as though it were a serious threat? I, for one, am happy that my government goes to such extreme lengths to keep its citizens safe. And if it means I have to sacrifice posting half-moronic things on twitter, so be it. Oh, and to those of you claiming it was a violation of the tourists first amendment rights, the Bill of Rights applies to United States citizens. If you are visiting a county, treat it with respect. Do not expect the same rights as those who were born there or went through the process to gain citizenship. If the two tourists were dual citizens then I apologize, but from my understanding they were not. The Constitution applies almost entirely to everyone. The prerequisites for federal offices require that anyone who seeks to vote, be president, a US congressman, or US federal judge must be a citizen. There are some Privileges and Immunities that apply to only citizens + Show Spoiler + The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:44 Demidyne wrote: You are all missing the point. Security is an industry. You would probably be sick if you knew how much these ignoramus agents made. Same with the criminal justice system.. 3 strikes law, guy gets 30 years for stealing his third twinkie? "Who cares hurp derp hes a criminal send him to jail?" 30 year sentence is a 30 year contract, someone's out there lol'ing at the voters while getting paid absurd money to warehouse twinkie offenders. Cost of college education up 40% in a decade for state universities? Oh look, cost of incarceration up 40%, guess who's paying for it? College kids with their loans, while we leverage our future to pay for today's defense and security industry today. Very good point sir. Never thought of that. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46592 Posts
On February 01 2012 05:13 KimJongChill wrote: Welp, guess we can't joke about anything now. But at least we can still make sweeping generalizations. Acceptable: Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. Not acceptable: Why did the chicken cross the road? To go and destroy America, which is what I'm on my way to do right now! Learn the difference. | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
Its silly and the guys at homeland sec who did it should loss there jobs tbh... not for it being offensive to the couple or w.e but rather for having the intelligence level of a rock give or take a few percents | ||
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Ryndika
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 01 2012 05:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: But at least we can still make sweeping generalizations. Acceptable: Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. Not acceptable: Why did the chicken cross the road? To go and destroy America, which is what I'm on my way to do right now! Learn the difference. Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. The other side meaning, the other side of life thus to die. He crossed the road to die, but how did he die? He went on a murdering spree on US soil only to be gunned down by SWAT, his point of attack was just on the other side of the road. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46592 Posts
On February 01 2012 05:28 semantics wrote: Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. The other side meaning, the other side of life thus to die. He crossed the road to die, but how did he die? He went on a murdering spree on US soil only to be gunned down by SWAT, his point of attack was just on the other side of the road. I almost thought you were serious, but then I saw your name and realized you just like to play games  | ||
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