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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 25 2012 18:59 GMT
#681
Sometimes, I really do not even know what to say. But at the same time, one has to understand the consequences after 9/11.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
February 25 2012 19:07 GMT
#682
On February 26 2012 03:39 Rebs wrote:
People other than me getting shit while travelling. I approve !

Honestly I have the cleanest (and reasonably extensive) travel record possible and I travel a fair bit to and from the US and on very rare occasions am I not treated like a threat. But I dont mind, Im not a citizen and the color and content of my passport means they have some parameters they go by and its their perogative. Its silly that they sent them home though, just looking into it and inconveniencing them is more than enough punishment for a flagged twitter comment. Usually Homeland security goes out of their way to make sure you dont get into trouble in the country (or maybe just in my experience). Theirs plenty of idiots going around in all departments though.

Anyone arguing that it was sensible to send them home is being ridiculous. Ive seen people with fake visa's, wrong documents and god knows what from Latin America to I dont know... pfft Turkey (latest trip dude got conned into a fake visa or something). They treated him pretty well, gave him food, place to sleep. Just made sure he didnt step on US soil (because thats when laws become a problem) and went out of their way to make sure the dude didnt get blacklisted because it was just a mistake. Ofcourse they do get sent home because they dont have the right paperwork but if the problem can be solved without doing so they pretty much do it.

So no I cant agree that this is standard practice and it really is just silly behaviour from some eggheads having a bad day seen quite a bit of those to (personally never given a reason to piss them off but again seen people witht to much attitude get cuffed once).


We don't know the whole story here. My assumption is that when you are traveling, you are respectful to the inspectors doing their jobs, and while they take an extra look at you, they don't stop you from going where you are going. We have no information about how this couple acted toward the inspectors. Just based on what they've said, it seems they don't take the situation seriously and I'm guessing disrespecting the inspectors. When it is within the discretion of the inspectors to let them in or not, it's not a good idea to act like an immature shit. I am guessing that is what went on, and the real reason they weren't let in. I wouldn't be so quick to chalk it up to "silly behavior from some eggheads having a bad day". They were probably doing just fine and the travelers learned a lesson about life that day. That is all. Have a nice day.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
February 25 2012 19:16 GMT
#683
I'll echo this, we don't know the full story. Every time bOneSeven posts some news story a poster almost always mentions additional details that bOneSeven conveniently left out to paint the U.S. in a bad light. Not saying he's done the same thing here, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Zyos
Profile Joined December 2011
United States16 Posts
February 25 2012 19:27 GMT
#684
Who cares? I was in Singapore the other day and got arrested for chewing gum in public.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
February 25 2012 19:36 GMT
#685
On February 26 2012 04:27 Zyos wrote:
Who cares? I was in Singapore the other day and got arrested for chewing gum in public.

lol
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 25 2012 19:45 GMT
#686
On February 26 2012 04:07 Kaitlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 03:39 Rebs wrote:
People other than me getting shit while travelling. I approve !

Honestly I have the cleanest (and reasonably extensive) travel record possible and I travel a fair bit to and from the US and on very rare occasions am I not treated like a threat. But I dont mind, Im not a citizen and the color and content of my passport means they have some parameters they go by and its their perogative. Its silly that they sent them home though, just looking into it and inconveniencing them is more than enough punishment for a flagged twitter comment. Usually Homeland security goes out of their way to make sure you dont get into trouble in the country (or maybe just in my experience). Theirs plenty of idiots going around in all departments though.

Anyone arguing that it was sensible to send them home is being ridiculous. Ive seen people with fake visa's, wrong documents and god knows what from Latin America to I dont know... pfft Turkey (latest trip dude got conned into a fake visa or something). They treated him pretty well, gave him food, place to sleep. Just made sure he didnt step on US soil (because thats when laws become a problem) and went out of their way to make sure the dude didnt get blacklisted because it was just a mistake. Ofcourse they do get sent home because they dont have the right paperwork but if the problem can be solved without doing so they pretty much do it.

So no I cant agree that this is standard practice and it really is just silly behaviour from some eggheads having a bad day seen quite a bit of those to (personally never given a reason to piss them off but again seen people witht to much attitude get cuffed once).


We don't know the whole story here. My assumption is that when you are traveling, you are respectful to the inspectors doing their jobs, and while they take an extra look at you, they don't stop you from going where you are going. We have no information about how this couple acted toward the inspectors. Just based on what they've said, it seems they don't take the situation seriously and I'm guessing disrespecting the inspectors. When it is within the discretion of the inspectors to let them in or not, it's not a good idea to act like an immature shit. I am guessing that is what went on, and the real reason they weren't let in. I wouldn't be so quick to chalk it up to "silly behavior from some eggheads having a bad day". They were probably doing just fine and the travelers learned a lesson about life that day. That is all. Have a nice day.


Yea fair enough, but the eggheads Im talking about tend to go out of their way to inconvenience you, just because they are having a bad day and to be perfectly honest its hard to appreciate sending someone home because they probably werent used to it and felt they were being hard done by. That sort of reaction even to the point of being rude is a pretty reasonable. I mean lets be clear everytime I walk up to a booth and the officer doesnt have a friendly expression Ive pretty much dumped all my self respect out the window for those particular 5 mins.

After which I take a pretty lengthy tour of JFK going from NSEERS to immigration to back to NSEERS to customs it can take anywhere between 10 mins and 10 hours. Once you know the same thing that was taking ages to sort is doable in 10 mins by competent people then its upsetting to know that guy is chilling with his coffee and sandwich while people just sit their and wait for him (no hes not on break just didnt care).

Is it really fair to have to sit at the airport for 4-5 hours because the guy with specific "login" to process went home and never bothered to make sure the post was filled ? Its not but Im resigned to that and while this sounds like complaining Im just pointing out the human flaws that do exist and its just a part of the work they do.

Doesnt mean its ok. Travellers can be rude and obnoxious and what not if their being treated what they think is unreasonably. Problem is the egghead in question will go all macho on your ass instead of being reasonable ( I cant imagine those brits doing anything beyond making lawyer threats, what not and just being angry. Point being their demeanor isnt really a good reason to kick them out given the situation. Its a pretty natural ethnic response imo. But yeah absolutely I can admit not knowing how they responded to detainment makes it difficult to judge wether it was ok.

Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 25 2012 19:51 GMT
#687
On February 26 2012 04:27 Zyos wrote:
Who cares? I was in Singapore the other day and got arrested for chewing gum in public.

You probably threw the gum on the ground...
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