EPTDwight D. Eisenhower 1890 - 1969 " A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
British Couple Kicked out of the US for joking - Page 33
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Green Sun s Zenith
Canada85 Posts
Dwight D. Eisenhower 1890 - 1969 " A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On January 31 2012 19:22 SolHeiM wrote: But what if these had been actual terrorists? How are they supposed to deduce if a tweet is real or not? Now you might not think that many "solo" terrorists would openly announce to the world that they're going to destroy America, but when large terrorist organizations openly announce that they will, how can they not take things like this seriously? There is no way that they can know if this is a real threat or not, therefore they have to treat it as a real threat. I wouldn't be laughing. I'd be scared shit-less I'd be thrown into some prison like Guantanamo Bay. I'm sorry but your point is just as stupid as arresting these people. Any British person could have told you that this is how we talk and that "destroy" is a word we use to indicate that we either had or are goin to have one hell of a party, any semi-intelligent person could have told you that anyways. You really think a terrorist is going to announce their plans on twitter? lol I used to work at an airport and just saying the word "bomb" or the like could have gotten you arrested if the wrong person heard you say it, I saw this happen with my own two eyes... some surfer dude from Torquay was chatting with his mates and said something like "If I don't get a MacDonald's soon I'm gonna blow you all up" he happened to be right next to airport security and was whisked away nearly immediately, missed his flight and his holiday all because he said something in passing to his mates... | ||
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enigmaticcam
United States280 Posts
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
"Im gonna fill the Mississippi with my pee woooooo" is NOT a valid reason to prevent a foreigner from entering national territory. And I think it doesn't happen very often, because this person is OBVIOUSLY joking. A backround check can confirm that, if you really want to know if these three Swedish drunk surfers really want to contaminate the river with their pee. Jesus Christ. But go ahead, enjoy the patriot act, feel safe, don't listen to Eisenhower or to the founding fathers. Just close your borders, give the president all powers and enjoy safety. | ||
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enigmaticcam
United States280 Posts
On February 17 2012 03:16 Kukaracha wrote: Spend 5 minutes thinking about it too, and realize that most cases like ARE in fact dismissed.. You have evidence to support this claim? Like, can you actually show me examples similar to the case of the British couple where the TSA actually was aware of and dismissed such cases because of that logic? | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On February 17 2012 03:45 enigmaticcam wrote: You have evidence to support this claim? Like, can you actually show me examples similar to the case of the British couple where the TSA actually was aware of and dismissed such cases because of that logic? Do you have the sources that lead you to say that anything that could be interpreted as a wish to harm the country in any way, regardless of their seriousness and of who said what, is a common reason to stop people from entering the country? I'd be curious to know, because I sure as hell hate a lot on the US and I've been there multiple times. | ||
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Forsy
Canada36 Posts
Enjoy the US conversion into North Korea! | ||
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Xtal
Haiti385 Posts
You dont walk into another country and make fun of them. Only an idiot goes anywhere and does that. Seriously. We don't fly to Paris and talk about kicking down the Eiffel Tower and digging up Jim Morrison. You can't just go visit a lot of countries.. and even then you wont be treated nicely in most of them. Say, Japan for instance shopkeepers/resturaunts, etc: can kick you out of their residence jsut for being a foriegner. Its ridiculous that so many of you are hating on the USA and comapring it to the next North Korea. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
The only lack of respect they showed was to arrive drunk, but that's not a national issue. Edit : and yes, people do set foot in France and immediately complain on how we're part of Eurabia now, and that we're arrogan stinky frogs. We don't kick them out though, because we have common sense. | ||
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enigmaticcam
United States280 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:26 Kukaracha wrote:Do you have the sources that lead you to say that anything that could be interpreted as a wish to harm the country in any way, regardless of their seriousness and of who said what, is a common reason to stop people from entering the country? I don't know which part of this sentence to correct first. So I guess I'll just assume your answer is no, you don't have the evidence to support your claim. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On February 17 2012 07:24 enigmaticcam wrote: I don't know which part of this sentence to correct first. So I guess I'll just assume your answer is no, you don't have the evidence to support your claim. I'll translate : if I need to show proof, so do you. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On February 17 2012 05:07 Xtal wrote: You dont walk into another country and make fun of them. Only an idiot goes anywhere and does that. Seriously. We don't fly to Paris and talk about kicking down the Eiffel Tower and digging up Jim Morrison. You could. Nobody would care because it is obvious that you are joking. USA behaves irrational like Idra on tilt. | ||
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peppilepew
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Sure it went a bit too far, but they shouldn't have said that. | ||
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durr
United States148 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On February 17 2012 09:04 Lightwip wrote: A common sense rule of tourism is to tread lightly. If they can't do that, then no wonder they will risk trouble. Sure it went a bit too far, but they shouldn't have said that. So your argument is essentially "they started it." | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On February 17 2012 08:59 Fenrax wrote: You could. Nobody would care because it is obvious that you are joking. USA behaves irrational like Idra on tilt. A German talking about irrational? The United States does not make the swastika illegal, at the very least. On February 17 2012 09:12 Serpico wrote: So your argument is essentially "they started it." My argument is "they were stupid and got punished for it." | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On February 17 2012 09:04 Lightwip wrote: A common sense rule of tourism is to tread lightly. If they can't do that, then no wonder they will risk trouble. Sure it went a bit too far, but they shouldn't have said that. "They shouldn't have said that," and with that all sense of humor will die. On February 17 2012 09:09 durr wrote: if the security didn't take the couple and deny them entrance to the country and then the couple did do something wrong like blowing up a building then you all would be sitting here saying what idiots! this couple even said they were going to do this Yes, what if! What if security had some competence. What if security could identify real terrorists before they get on the plane. What if security could minimize the severe inconvenience they impose on the rest of us. What if. While we run through all the hypotheticals, why not try some of the ones where security actually makes life safer while not sexually harassing everyone and making people's travel experience miserable. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On February 17 2012 09:18 TanGeng wrote: "They shouldn't have said that," and with that all sense of humor will die. There's a time and a place for jokes. It is not when you are going into a country that takes terrorism seriously. Sure the officials went a bit overboard(only in that they were rejected), but it's their fault, really. | ||
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